http://driftingthrough.com/2015/11/20/the-thing-all-women-do-that-you-dont-know-about
"We are acutely aware of our vulnerability. Aware that if he wanted to? That guy in the Home Depot parking lot could overpower us and do whatever he wants."
I think all of these at human problems: though degree may be greater for many women.
The broken part is that we're teaching young women to play the victim: or worse experience their lives as victims.
When feminism is about making women feel disempowered, it's broken.
Outside of obvious joking references, please feel free to point out any "obvious bullshit".
Have you never watched the Daily Show? Or Colbert Report? It's the same thing dumbass, it's called satire. I'm sorry your Yankee brain is too small to grasp that concept.
Thankfully, your stupidity-herd seems to consists of nothing but you alone in most cases. It's funny how you think there is an army of people behind you or something It's cute, actually :awe:
Question are men victimized when they want sex and their wife won't give it? If so, I have been victimized my entire marriage. Can I get some sympathy over here?
Ah, missing the good old days when it didn't matter whether your wife wanted sex or not? Well, to be fair, those days aren't really all that old.
"In 1976, Nebraska became the first state to throw out its marital rape exception law. Seventeen years later, all 50 states had revoked their marital rape exceptions. But, while many states have revised their rape laws to draw no distinction between marital and non-marital rape, some states persist in distinguishing in certain ways between marital and non-marital rape."
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/crime-penalties/marital-rape.htm
Professors in the humanities at X-Liberal Arts College.
People create the world they live in.
Professors teach them how.
Imagine a white guy saying this:
Fearing each other is a mindset that creates hate.
"In 1993, all 50 states had finally eliminated the 'marital rape exception.'"
Feminism IS needed.
But when we teach people to see the world as victims, we're harming them.
Being 'aware' is another word for 'imagining'. We are all un-aware of precisely how vulnerable we are: or we wouldn't step foot in a car.How does being aware of your vulnerability have the slightest thing to do with hate?
All I see in most of the responses here are sacred world views that are hostile to women.
But as he said, differences remain.
Well said.Reading through the linked article, the author cites a number of different incidents which she has found offensive. I wouldn't argue with her about the bulk of these. However, her central point is that these are constant occurrences, and this affects women broadly. These behaviors, of course, nearly all involve unwanted sexual attention.
I note from her photograph that she is attractive. I think it's beyond doubt that attractive women get more of this sort of attention than less attractive ones. Yet, somehow I doubt, in spite of her claim of constant victimization, that she would ever trade places with someone who is unattractive. I also think feminists are loathe to admit that some women have certain problems more than others because they want to pitch everything as a broad women's issue.
I said this in another thread, but this has a lot to do with the fact that men tend to be a) horny, and b) voyeuristic. I suspect that this is less a cultural phenomenon than the feminists think it is. The reality is that they're at war with something that will likely not ever change. I don't think feminists have come to grips with male sexuality. They think all this stuff is about power and control and has nothing to do with sex. But those behaviors like what the OP's article described, they're all about sex and probably nothing but.
Feminists have trained women to believe that when some guy makes a rude sexual comment, they are degrading you as a human being when in fact that random guy doesn't even know the woman he is being rude to. He probably just wants to **** her. Which is why they shouldn't take it personally. Being raped or actually assaulted, of course, is an entirely different matter. To be clear, I don't think men should make rude comments either. It's just a matter of proportion and keeping things in perspective.
I also think that while the author talks a lot about women's tendency to "de-escalate" as she calls it, meaning they just blow off rude or offensive comments and behavior, she might be overlooking the fact that some women just don't care as much as she does. My wife, who is in her 50's, sometimes gets comments like these. I've directly heard some of them and gotten angry myself. But it doesn't bother her. She tells me that the day she gets no more comments will be depressing because she'll feel old and unattractive.
I also agree with the OP that portraying your entire gender as being constant, daily victims is not a very good message.
Good points.Professors in the humanities at X-Liberal Arts College.
People create the world they live in.
Professors teach them how.
Imagine a white guy saying this:
Fearing each other is a mindset that creates hate.
Actually some of them have good jobs which aren't at risk because of their performance or circumstances. But yeah, outside of some very interesting debates and forums it does tend to be funny.That's why feminism vs gamersgate is the funniest shitstorm on Earth. Feminist extremists vs basement dwellers who don't give a shit. It's one of the first times the politically correct shaming game that the left has been playing has hit a brick wall, because the neckbeards don't have jobs to lose for being politically incorrect so they don't have to apologize since they have nothing to lose.
Being 'aware' is another word for 'imagining'. We are all un-aware of precisely how vulnerable we are: or we wouldn't step foot in a car.
People don't know that they are being told how to create their own world: they just think they are "learning".
Teaching people to imagine a world where they are victims* sets us against each other.
It creates fear, hate, and violence.
I agree.
We need feminism. And it's a bad thing that it's broken.
*We are all good beings turned to hate by our society, no doubt, and in that way we ARE all victims. but we are ALL victims. It is claiming a special circumstance of victimhood, particularly by the creation of an "OTHER" that is the perpetual terrorist, that is the problem. Be it 'blacks' or 'muslims' or 'men'. Terrorism is a tool society uses to control us; feminism has been coopted by terrorism.
When that poor woman's opinion is attributed to half the world and the other half is cast as predators, she should expect some blowback. Even the Pope doesn't claim that much authority.How does being aware of your vulnerability have the slightest thing to do with hate?
What is the connection you make to liberal professors? How did they get involved?
When you say people create the world they live in and professors teach them how, who taught you this? I learned the first part from no professor but by destroying everything I was ever taught and that I had held sacred. All I see in most of the responses here are sacred world views that are hostile to women.
Geez, a poor woman can't open her mouth to give an opinion without multitudes of men children losing their grip on their branch and falling out of their tree.
When that poor woman's opinion is attributed to half the world and the other half is cast as predators, she should expect some blowback. Even the Pope doesn't claim that much authority.
I guess what confuses me is that I don't see anything in the woman's blog thingi that did anything other than point our terrorism that women face. I guess I see tarring of the messenger. We live in a society where race and gender problems exist and remain to be fixed against heavy resistance and denial, in my opinion.
PS: Awareness of how vulnerable I am in a car doesn't stop me from driving but helps me to pay attention. Awareness is presence, not imagining which is being away somewhere in your head,
and we know ladies cant fix anything...
Except a sandwich.
Boom! I'll be here all day folks.
Except a sandwich.
Boom! I'll be here all day folks.
Note to self: Pretend to pass out whenever around women.
Sadly, it's true. Just like more women today can't cook compared to years past.
I love that site. The article about Brianna Wu is unbelievable.
Reading through the linked article, the author cites a number of different incidents which she has found offensive. I wouldn't argue with her about the bulk of these. However, her central point is that these are constant occurrences, and this affects women broadly. These behaviors, of course, nearly all involve unwanted sexual attention.
I note from her photograph that she is attractive. I think it's beyond doubt that attractive women get more of this sort of attention than less attractive ones. Yet, somehow I doubt, in spite of her claim of constant victimization, that she would ever trade places with someone who is unattractive. I also think feminists are loathe to admit that some women have certain problems more than others because they want to pitch everything as a broad women's issue.
I said this in another thread, but this has a lot to do with the fact that men tend to be a) horny, and b) voyeuristic. I suspect that this is less a cultural phenomenon than the feminists think it is. The reality is that they're at war with something that will likely not ever change. I don't think feminists have come to grips with male sexuality. They think all this stuff is about power and control and has nothing to do with sex. But those behaviors like what the OP's article described, they're all about sex and probably nothing but.
Feminists have trained women to believe that when some guy makes a rude sexual comment, they are degrading you as a human being when in fact that random guy doesn't even know the woman he is being rude to. He probably just wants to **** her. Which is why they shouldn't take it personally. Being raped or actually assaulted, of course, is an entirely different matter. To be clear, I don't think men should make rude comments either. It's just a matter of proportion and keeping things in perspective.
I also think that while the author talks a lot about women's tendency to "de-escalate" as she calls it, meaning they just blow off rude or offensive comments and behavior, she might be overlooking the fact that some women just don't care as much as she does. My wife, who is in her 50's, sometimes gets comments like these. I've directly heard some of them and gotten angry myself. But it doesn't bother her. She tells me that the day she gets no more comments will be depressing because she'll feel old and unattractive.
I also agree with the OP that portraying your entire gender as being constant, daily victims is not a very good message.
Great post.
I've never been one to "cat call", but why do women find this so offensive? Is it such a bad thing to be found attractive? I'm just not the type to hoot and holler.. That doesn't mean I'm not going to look, possibly even stare. Is that offensive? Seems silly.
It would be interesting, psychology wise, to learn how basically being called attractive can create negative feelings?
Exactly. In a perfect world, women would be carrying guns and be highly trained in jiu jitsu. A city with a million people contains thousands of absolute creeps.It's not just being constantly honked and whistled at all the time, it's that a lot of women I know have had men come up to them and say things like 'show me a smile!'. When they are ignored, they actually become angry and start following women around calling them names, saying they are rude, etc. It's super threatening.