Final Fantasy A realm reborn anti-aliasing

[mithcol]

I have spent hours and countless nights trying to fix this issue for this game, if someone can help me out I will be extremely thankful, I love this game and really want to continue playing it but this constant flickering in the trees, grass, walls and shadows makes it difficult to keep playing this game! These videos and screenshots should summarize everything. It is worse when Im moving around in game. My best guess is this is an anti-aliasing issue. It happens around the edges of my characters as well.

Thanks again to anyone who can help and please let me know if there is any other information that you need.

graphics card:

Settings set to maximum.






Im also using sweetFX because I heard it may help, it doesnt. These are the settings in sweetfx:
http://pastebin.ca/2494858

 

[hans030390]

I don't know if AMD cards can use driver-forced AA in FF14, but you do have CCC set to use application settings for AA. Even if you did set AA in the CCC, it won't show up in the game because of this. I'm not sure if the AA options you did set are optimal either. I don't remember the CCC options off the top of my head, unfortunately.

Also, last I checked, it's not always best to "max" settings in CCC. Some of these are very specific and should not be messed with unless you know what you're doing. I also don't believe you should set texture filtering to high quality...you'll lose performance for no IQ gain, if I remember tests correctly...

Do you notice a difference at all with SweetFX? If not, it might not be working properly. I believe I had issues getting it to work right with FF14. Been a while, sorry for all my forgetfulness.

IIRC, FF14 only has FXAA built-in (either that or it had other options that performed poorly...can't remember). Did you try that, and does it make a difference? I found the FXAA in FF14 to be rather strong...too strong, actually. Killed a lot of the aliasing and shimmering (which this game has a lot of), but it also blurred things too much. What do you think?

If the built-in FXAA in the game options doesn't fix it for you, you might be out of luck OR dealing with a deeper issue.

 

[cbrunny]

At quick glance, I'm guessing it is because you're underpowered in the gpu. You're running a 78xx series gpu @ 1080p @ max? What are your framerates like? Did you try running at lesser quality to see what happens?

The reason I say this is because my computer has a tough time keeping up @ max on ffxiv, and I've got 2 x 7970 oc'd. But, in fairness, I'm running at 5760 x 1080 so it's not an apples to apples comparison my any means.

At one point my game was artifacting pretty badly. It was a combination of things though, that being I forgot to stop mining before I started playing so my GPU was being pushed waay too hard. A reboot solved it though.

 

[mithcol]

I don't know if AMD cards can use driver-forced AA in FF14, but you do have CCC set to use application settings for AA. Even if you did set AA in the CCC, it won't show up in the game because of this. I'm not sure if the AA options you did set are optimal either. I don't remember the CCC options off the top of my head, unfortunately.

Also, last I checked, it's not always best to "max" settings in CCC. Some of these are very specific and should not be messed with unless you know what you're doing. I also don't believe you should set texture filtering to high quality...you'll lose performance for no IQ gain, if I remember tests correctly...

Do you notice a difference at all with SweetFX? If not, it might not be working properly. I believe I had issues getting it to work right with FF14. Been a while, sorry for all my forgetfulness.

IIRC, FF14 only has FXAA built-in (either that or it had other options that performed poorly...can't remember). Did you try that, and does it make a difference? I found the FXAA in FF14 to be rather strong...too strong, actually. Killed a lot of the aliasing and shimmering (which this game has a lot of), but it also blurred things too much. What do you think?

If the built-in FXAA in the game options doesn't fix it for you, you might be out of luck OR dealing with a deeper issue.

Thanks for the detailed reply,
As far as I know the AMD cards cant use driver-forced AA in FF14, it makes no difference. CCC just came out with a preset for FF14 and I just put that on, it makes no difference still though.

SweetFX can be turned on and off and it makes things a bit brighter in game when I turn it on but has no effect on my problem.

The FXAA thats built into the game also makes no difference to the problem when I tick it on or off.

At quick glance, I'm guessing it is because you're underpowered in the gpu. You're running a 78xx series gpu @ 1080p @ max? What are your framerates like? Did you try running at lesser quality to see what happens?

The reason I say this is because my computer has a tough time keeping up @ max on ffxiv, and I've got 2 x 7970 oc'd. But, in fairness, I'm running at 5760 x 1080 so it's not an apples to apples comparison my any means.

At one point my game was artifacting pretty badly. It was a combination of things though, that being I forgot to stop mining before I started playing so my GPU was being pushed waay too hard. A reboot solved it though.

Im not sure what it means to underpower the GPU, I get about 30-50 frames per second. 1920x1080. Im not sure how to reboot it either, could that solve it?

 

[cbrunny]

Im not sure what it means to underpower the GPU, I get about 30-50 frames per second. 1920x1080. Im not sure how to reboot it either, could that solve it?

By underpower, I mean that your GPU just isn't good enough to run 1080p on max. But, If you're getting 30 to 50 FPS, then I'm wrong on that guess.

By rebooting, I just meant a Windows reboot - e.g. shut down & start up again.

 

[PowerYoga]

For one, I don't think FF14 supports SLI or driver forced AA... remember reading that somewhere.

 

[cbrunny]

FFXIV supports Crossfire. No idea about SLI but I would assume so.

 

[mithcol]

FFXIV supports Crossfire. No idea about SLI but I would assume so.

I dont see Crossfire as an option in my AMD Catalyst control center.

 

[cbrunny]

Do you have more than one GPU?

 

[mithcol]

Do you have more than one GPU?

Sorry Im not sure what that means, I have 1 graphics card, which is listed above.

 

[cbrunny]

GPU = graphics processing unit, which for the general public is a graphics card. There are some cards that have two GPUs but nearly all have just one.

If you only have one GPU, you do not have the ability to "Crossfire" or "SLI" - Crossfire and SLI are AMD's and nVidia's (respectively) versions of using two GPUs at one time. That doesn't seem like it would be the issue for you though.

Might be a driver issue. I'd recommend ensuring you have the most up-to-date drivers for your video card. If this doesn't work or if there isn't one available, try the "beta" driver - it is listed on the AMD driver page as well.

 

[Anarchist420]

i heard that nvidia doesnt so i doubt amd would either since the latter is more willfully in compliance with microsoft and has been since R300.

 

[cbrunny]

http://www.techspot.com/news/53685-...er-brings-25-boost-to-saints-row-iv-more.html

AMD doesn't provide specific numbers, but Radeon owners can also expect better performance out RIPD on single GPUs, Minimum and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow on multiple GPUs and Final Fantasy XIV on both types of graphics configurations.

Official release notes: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-13-8WIN-BetaDriver.aspx

Final Fantasy XIV: Improves single GPU and CrossFire performance

Crossfire is supported.

 

[mithcol]

http://www.techspot.com/news/53685-...er-brings-25-boost-to-saints-row-iv-more.html



Official release notes: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-13-8WIN-BetaDriver.aspx



Crossfire is supported.

I downloaded the amd catalyst 13.8 beta I still dont see crossfire as an option.

 

[MiRai]

I downloaded the amd catalyst 13.8 beta I still dont see crossfire as an option.

It was explained earlier that unless you have multiple GPUs, then CrossFire means nothing to you (you've already stated you don't have multiple GPUs). As for Anti-Aliasing in FFXIV, it's a custom game engine (if you will) and I'm not really sure that you can force it on through your AMD control panel. The only way you can force it on with an nVidia card is by using SGSSAA, but that's a whole other beast altogether and you might be SOL with your AMD setup. /shrug

 

[cbrunny]

I believe the most up to date driver is version 13.9 in the non-beta and 13.11 in beta. I run 13.11 at home with no issues, but you may want to stick with 13.9 since you're already having stability issues.

[unrelated, but why is the next version of the driver a smaller number than the previous? 13.11 < 13.9. is this typical for numbering versions after .9?]