FINAL UPDATE 15/9 : Got ASSAULTED Fri. evening. (Prev: Landord verbally threatened my gf and our 2 week old newborn)

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Sounds like you need to read his other thread and his current OP is pretty concise and doesn't need cliffs.

I did...lot's of blah my g/f is pregnant blah blah I have a family now blah blah c-section...

The police ESPECIALLY in NYC would have acted should their have been warrantable reason.

If this is real, seriously the guy should have vacanted once he knew someone was entering and pissing on things. SERIOUSLY would anyone who was looking to not be in a freaking war stay around after that?

I still have no idea why he keeps bringing up his g/f and baby though...only reason is sympathy as being single these actions would have the same weight.

Again, read the fucking OP of the other thread.

The OP states that pets are allowed. And does the OP mention anywhere that the LL has an issue with the GF living there? NO, so STFU!!!!

You are bringing up issues that have zero relevance to why the LL is acting the way he is.

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: dNor
Murder's still an option here.

make sure to keep it formal with a colombian necktie

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: dNor
Murder's still an option here.

make sure to keep it formal with a colombian necktie

No sh!t, I can't believe OP would put up with as much as he had in the first place. /boggle

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Again, read the fucking OP of the other thread.

The OP states that pets are allowed. And does the OP mention anywhere that the LL has an issue with the GF living there? NO, so STFU!!!!

You are bringing up issues that have zero relevance to why the LL is acting the way he is.

I read, no where did the OP state he had either the dogs nor G/F living there via LEASE. The very first part of the OP stated the LL had an issue with the G/F living there. You are blindly defending this or simply trying to make me look like a troll.

Pets being allowed is not the same as having those pets on your lease and many will circumvent the rules with this.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Again, read the fucking OP of the other thread.

The OP states that pets are allowed. And does the OP mention anywhere that the LL has an issue with the GF living there? NO, so STFU!!!!

You are bringing up issues that have zero relevance to why the LL is acting the way he is.

I read, no where did the OP state he had either the dogs nor G/F living there. The very first part of the OP stated the LL had an issue with the G/F living there. You are blindly defending this or simply trying to make me look like a troll.

Pets being allowed is not the same as having those pets on your lease and many will circumvent the rules with this.

You do a good enough job of that on your own there Suzy.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You do a good enough job of that on your own there Suzy.

lol me calling you Francis that one time really upset you that much?

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Depends on the lease. If the LL is getting the money, and has no "issues" with the gf (i.e. she's not breaking things, etc.) then may not need to be on the lease. If she did, it would say.

On ALL leases you are to disclose any permanent residents. It has nothing to do with breaking things, it has to do with having a contract to remove them when needed. You do understand a lease isn't about damage and 'issues'

True, but the LL immediately showed true colors by yelling and screaming, instead of bring up said point.

No in reality it was the G/F being difficult day one...she should have been more than capable of relaying the increase in rent which the LL is entitled to parlay. This sounds like someone really not happy with a huge increase in rent and trying to make it the LL's fault.

Is that a does not equal? You make no sense. But again, depends on the lease. OP said pets were allowed on the lease, but has not mentioned having to pay a fee. After an assault I'm more inclined to believe the OP than the LL

I have not seen any lease that you did not have to disclose type and number of pets regardless if pets are allowed at the complex. Again most will also want a fee/deposit for each pet

I don't know of any provision I've ever seen that addresses this...

In most pet leases it will be stated that the pets must remain indoors or attended while on lease. It will usually have exclusions to allowing one to tie out animals in common areas.

You being >12 y.o....HIGHLY UNLIKELY

personal attack...you go...

What's crazier, OP getting violent when threatened or LL asking some dude to come kick the shit out of OP?

HEARSAY. OP though has been stating his desire for violence since first post.

Well bringing the mail up insures that it gets there, instead of being stolen, which is a federal crime.

I am willing to bet you like to kick puppies on the road and hit bunnies in your SUV.

The chick should have gotten the mail from the mail man then. She was obviously trying to make a scene with the landlord though.

I have no idea WTF you are talking about there except another personal attack...I am a pretty strong animal advocate here since I am a Zoology major.

alkemyst - do you think that the powers that be (the government, landlords, big business owners, cops) are always right and that people like the op are just whiners or obviously did something to deserve their treatment?

You may be right but your firmness makes it appear that the acts described are simply not possible. Ever hear of crazy? Some people are crazy, their motivations aren't sound and their actions are illogical.

As for cops - I'm related to some and can respect some... But, I'll just use a story to illustrate my point. Last year (in Queens NY), I heard a woman above me screaming bloody murder, out of fear toward a man who was screaming back to her violently. This lasted about an hour. I didn't understand what was going on as it was in another language but I called the cops. 15 minutes later and the cops arrive to my apartment. "Um. We don't hear any screaming... We're going to go..." I suggested knocking on the woman upstair's door to just check in on her, to see if she's ok. They said they can't do that unless they hear the screaming, so they leave....

Yeah.. Cops.. Woo-hoo! Lifesavers..

 

[swbsam]

also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst
6) Police not getting involved even multiple times...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Police are under-trained, under-paid, ignorant, racist, power tripping idiots, and 90% of them don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Kind of an idiot, aren't ya?

Now THAT was witty - well done sir.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

The paycheck to paycheck generation? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

Tell us what happened. ATOT demands to know. I've had some pretty idiotic roomates in the past too, and my share of white trash neighbors (yeah it's 4 AM and I can't sleep because the drunken neighbor is yelling at his wife again).

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

The paycheck to paycheck generation? What the hell are you talking about?

Do not attempt to pass judgment on me based on your life in Naperville, Illinois - it has nothing to do with my life in New York, NY. Everyone in my age group here, regardless of occupation and education level, are struggling and living paycheck to paycheck. The economy is awful, most big firms are laying people off (and under paying), and rents are just getting more expensive.

 

[Arkaign]

Wait a few years, but keep tabs on him. Then find ways to make him wish for death. One great way is to arrange for 'accidents' to keep claiming his limbs and organs, a bit at a time, until he's a half-man pile of shit that has to be hospitalized for whatever remains of his pathetic existence. There is something to be said for inflicting such severe suffering that it pervades every second of his life.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

The paycheck to paycheck generation? What the hell are you talking about?

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: dNor
Murder is the only solution here.

The more updates I read to this story, the more I'm convinced that dNor is right.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst
6) Police not getting involved even multiple times...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Police are under-trained, under-paid, ignorant, racist, power tripping idiots, and 90% of them don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Kind of an idiot, aren't ya?

Now THAT was witty - well done sir.

wasn't trying to be witty...it was an honest question.

 

[piasabird]

If he interfered with the mail that is a Federal Offense. Call the Post Master General or go to the post office and make a complaint. Tampering with a mail box with mail inside is a federal offense. Contact the Better Business Bureau. Get all the renters to make complaints. Find his address and take your revenge in the middle of the night. Get all the renters to picket his home address and call the local news crew.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: swbsam
alkemyst - do you think that the powers that be (the government, landlords, big business owners, cops) are always right and that people like the op are just whiners or obviously did something to deserve their treatment?

You may be right but your firmness makes it appear that the acts described are simply not possible. Ever hear of crazy? Some people are crazy, their motivations aren't sound and their actions are illogical.

As for cops - I'm related to some and can respect some... But, I'll just use a story to illustrate my point. Last year (in Queens NY), I heard a woman above me screaming bloody murder, out of fear toward a man who was screaming back to her violently. This lasted about an hour. I didn't understand what was going on as it was in another language but I called the cops. 15 minutes later and the cops arrive to my apartment. "Um. We don't hear any screaming... We're going to go..." I suggested knocking on the woman upstair's door to just check in on her, to see if she's ok. They said they can't do that unless they hear the screaming, so they leave....

Yeah.. Cops.. Woo-hoo! Lifesavers..

no never said any of the above. However, the OP has been skirting the dog/girlfriend issue as to what's on his lease.

If you read this with an open-mind sounds like dude got g/f pregnant and moved her in...added dogs.

Rents rose and LL grew tired of this so goes to negotiate. G/F goes off on LL and OP now wanted to beat his ass.

To your own side issue...WTF did you wait 1 hour to report it...if it was that important the cops sort of figure you'd be more proactive.

100's of people call in on BS any night.

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

Tell us what happened. ATOT demands to know. I've had some pretty idiotic roomates in the past too, and my share of white trash neighbors (yeah it's 4 AM and I can't sleep because the drunken neighbor is yelling at his wife again).

It wasn't a huge deal but we just needed to get the hell out of there.

My ex-roommate was that breed of person who never cleaned but complained about cleanliness. She had a cat and was never home, so we had to take care of it (fyi, the living room stuck because she never cleaned the litter and expected us to). She was never, ever home (cough.. slut..cough) and was, of course, never home when rent was due. She was good for the money but not without badgering/pestering/etc. She was also a drama queen, crying for days in the living room for pity after she cheated on her bf (and he ended up dumping her)..I think she was manic, actually. She stole little things, refused to pay certain bills ("i'm never home!" -which is bullshit reasoning), and was just a pain to live with.

We could have fought it out and would have had to because we needed the deposit back in order to afford to move, but my inlaws just offered us a loan and we were out in a jiff, which was the right thing to do.

 

[Tiamat]

wow thats fucked up.

 

[Xylitol]

woah this is getting intense...
hope you're doing well

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Again, read the fucking OP of the other thread.

The OP states that pets are allowed. And does the OP mention anywhere that the LL has an issue with the GF living there? NO, so STFU!!!!

You are bringing up issues that have zero relevance to why the LL is acting the way he is.

I read, no where did the OP state he had either the dogs nor G/F living there via LEASE. The very first part of the OP stated the LL had an issue with the G/F living there. You are blindly defending this or simply trying to make me look like a troll.

Pets being allowed is not the same as having those pets on your lease and many will circumvent the rules with this.

And how do these facts even matter in condoning what the LL is doing? Has he attempted to evict the OP? Has he even mentioned to the OP that any of these items as an issue? If pets are allowed via his lease, why would he have to inform the LL? What fucking right does the LL have in going onto someone else's property to untie and take his dogs?

Seriously, are drunk, being a troll or mentally deficient?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

I get what you mean, but that's still a personal choice. Nobody forces you to live like that.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst
6) Police not getting involved even multiple times...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Police are under-trained, under-paid, ignorant, racist, power tripping idiots, and 90% of them don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Kind of an idiot, aren't ya?

Now THAT was witty - well done sir.

wasn't trying to be witty...it was an honest question.

Oh, an honest question, well in that case yes! Certainly! All apologies - I must have mistaken your astute honesty for a completely pointless and provocative post... how silly of me...

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: swbsam
alkemyst - do you think that the powers that be (the government, landlords, big business owners, cops) are always right and that people like the op are just whiners or obviously did something to deserve their treatment?

You may be right but your firmness makes it appear that the acts described are simply not possible. Ever hear of crazy? Some people are crazy, their motivations aren't sound and their actions are illogical.

As for cops - I'm related to some and can respect some... But, I'll just use a story to illustrate my point. Last year (in Queens NY), I heard a woman above me screaming bloody murder, out of fear toward a man who was screaming back to her violently. This lasted about an hour. I didn't understand what was going on as it was in another language but I called the cops. 15 minutes later and the cops arrive to my apartment. "Um. We don't hear any screaming... We're going to go..." I suggested knocking on the woman upstair's door to just check in on her, to see if she's ok. They said they can't do that unless they hear the screaming, so they leave....

Yeah.. Cops.. Woo-hoo! Lifesavers..

no never said any of the above. However, the OP has been skirting the dog/girlfriend issue as to what's on his lease.

If you read this with an open-mind sounds like dude got g/f pregnant and moved her in...added dogs.

Rents rose and LL grew tired of this so goes to negotiate. G/F goes off on LL and OP now wanted to beat his ass.

To your own side issue...WTF did you wait 1 hour to report it...if it was that important the cops sort of figure you'd be more proactive.

100's of people call in on BS any night.

The argument lasted over an hour, I called immediately when it escalated from "pissed off lovers arguing over too much tequila" to something that seemed much worse to me.

As for the rest:

Yes, it's completely possible that the OP was the instigator. It's also completely possible that the landlord is crazy. You just speak that like you know for sure, which is what i think most people here have problems with. The truth is often somewhere in the middle..

Either way, the landlord behaved criminally while the tenant perhaps behaved improperly. Based on assumptions, the OP probably did say some stupid things and probably did instigate the situation, but the landlords actions were still extreme..