FINAL UPDATE 15/9 : Got ASSAULTED Fri. evening. (Prev: Landord verbally threatened my gf and our 2 week old newborn)

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: alkemyst

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

I get what you mean, but that's still a personal choice. Nobody forces you to live like that.

Not exactly true. I live in an "up and coming" neighborhood (in other words, I can still get shot if I look at someone the wrong way), dress professionally but not with a stitch of designer on me, drive the most practical car possible (I live in NYC and commute to Long Island), and rarely go out or party or eat out or buy expensive goodies.

Still, we end up hurting come the first of the month.

People have it much worse, so I'm not complaining. Paycheck to paycheck seems to be the norm here.

 

[ivan2]

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: alkemyst

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

I get what you mean, but that's still a personal choice. Nobody forces you to live like that.

Not exactly true. I live in an "up and coming" neighborhood (in other words, I can still get shot if I look at someone the wrong way), dress professionally but not with a stitch of designer on me, drive the most practical car possible (I live in NYC and commute to Long Island), and rarely go out or party or eat out or buy expensive goodies.

Still, we end up hurting come the first of the month.

People have it much worse, so I'm not complaining. Paycheck to paycheck seems to be the norm here.

maybe u should consider the suburb?

a lot of you under-estimated the right of tenants in NYC. there's no way to kick them out except paying for deposit of the new place and moving cost. when the tenant decides not to pay, it takes at least 6 months for the legal proceeding to allow eviction. here's the trick: as soon as the renter has some money to show when he's appearing in court saying that he's willing to pay rent (1 month rent is enough), the judge will not evict. And the landlord will be left without the rents. The only thing that is going to hurt the tenant is his credit rating, but who needs credit rating when he can live for almost free...

well the OP can threaten to not pay rent...

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: ivan2

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: alkemyst

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

I get what you mean, but that's still a personal choice. Nobody forces you to live like that.

Not exactly true. I live in an "up and coming" neighborhood (in other words, I can still get shot if I look at someone the wrong way), dress professionally but not with a stitch of designer on me, drive the most practical car possible (I live in NYC and commute to Long Island), and rarely go out or party or eat out or buy expensive goodies.

Still, we end up hurting come the first of the month.

People have it much worse, so I'm not complaining. Paycheck to paycheck seems to be the norm here.

maybe u should consider the suburb?

a lot of you under-estimated the right of tenants in NYC. there's no way to kick them out except paying for deposit of the new place and moving cost. when the tenant decides not to pay, it takes at least 6 months for the legal proceeding to allow eviction. here's the trick: as soon as the renter has some money to show when he's appearing in court saying that he's willing to pay rent (1 month rent is enough), the judge will not evict. And the landlord will be left without the rents. The only thing that is going to hurt the tenant is his credit rating, but who needs credit rating when he can live for almost free...

well the OP can threaten to not pay rent...

Well, my wife works in manhattan so brooklyn was a fair compromise (45 min train ride for her, 45 min drive for me).

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: swbsam

Yes, it's completely possible that the OP was the instigator. It's also completely possible that the landlord is crazy. You just speak that like you know for sure, which is what i think most people here have problems with. The truth is often somewhere in the middle..

Either way, the landlord behaved criminally while the tenant perhaps behaved improperly. Based on assumptions, the OP probably did say some stupid things and probably did instigate the situation, but the landlords actions were still extreme..

Actually I haven't said for either one. However, the OP has not directly answered the key questions as to whether the dogs or g/f were on the lease. I am thinking not and this is now a method to dodge his rent hike.

 

[Number1]

Pics or shen.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: alkemyst

It's been talked about on you know, the news and in newspapers.

This is one of the first generations where savings is nearly non-existant and reliance on credit is paramount.

I get what you mean, but that's still a personal choice. Nobody forces you to live like that.

for most yes...they are trying to live beyond their means and feel entitled to do so.

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: swbsam

Yes, it's completely possible that the OP was the instigator. It's also completely possible that the landlord is crazy. You just speak that like you know for sure, which is what i think most people here have problems with. The truth is often somewhere in the middle..

Either way, the landlord behaved criminally while the tenant perhaps behaved improperly. Based on assumptions, the OP probably did say some stupid things and probably did instigate the situation, but the landlords actions were still extreme..

Actually I haven't said for either one. However, the OP has not directly answered the key questions as to whether the dogs or g/f were on the lease. I am thinking not and this is now a method to dodge his rent hike.

I just don't think that the actions of the landlord can be justified, even assuming that it was an illegal sublet and that animals were not allowed.

Grounds for eviction? Of course! But the landlord's actions extended beyond that..

 

[Ns1]

Actually I haven't said for either one. However, the OP has not directly answered the key questions as to whether the dogs or g/f were on the lease. I am thinking not and this is now a method to dodge his rent hike.

That doesn't excuse the LL's actions (assuming that they are true and indeed the LL's actions)

 

[SparkyJJO]

Get out of there ASAP

and don't open the door again until you use the peephole.

 

[Arkaign]

OP :

Use this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball-peen_hammer

and this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacksaw

along with this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulphuric_acid

Use item 1 to break apart various bones into fine fragments. Use item 2 to hack off hands and feet, maybe the nose and ears as well. Then pour item #3 in bits and dribbles all over the body.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
dear god some cliffs...all the hospital and baby crap is irrelevant. Like in the last thread too...someone being pregnant has no bearing.

You neighbor was wrong to have dogs leashed out in front of an apartment though and if they did not have an agreement with the landlord for pets, in the wrong.

I also seriously can't see a place like this from your description of how you and your neighbors are going for $1475 yet alone $2000/month. I am sure you have escalated your rent.

Also if you did have you G/F and dogs on the lease it should be pretty straightforward...I am betting you didn't though. When pets are allowed, it doesn't mean you can just bring them in the dwelling...the landlord still has to be informed and often fees/deposits are required.

If your g/f was on the lease, then he can tell her anything he needs too. She is equally a tenant and equally responsible as any other tenant.

Sounds like you were really the one that started this war though. Being the cops won't do anything shows you are probably not being honest with us though either.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Understand that rules and regulations vary from state to state and even county to county. In my home state it is illegal to require a "pet deposit" you either let people have them or you dont. You can still charge for damages, but you cant require a $500 deposit for just you and $750 for you and pets or other such nonsense. So before you go spouting your holier than thou attitude all over the place take a step back and realise that some people are telling the truth, some people are just dicks and some people get off harassing others like you seem to do.

This is just an example to show that things are different in different places

 

[Vonkhan]

alkemyst:

1. The lease allows pets
2. Both my dogs are mentioned on the lease
3. My gf is not mentioned on the lease
4. I'm the only on on the lease

 

[m1ldslide1]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Wait a few years, but keep tabs on him. Then find ways to make him wish for death. One great way is to arrange for 'accidents' to keep claiming his limbs and organs, a bit at a time, until he's a half-man pile of shit that has to be hospitalized for whatever remains of his pathetic existence. There is something to be said for inflicting such severe suffering that it pervades every second of his life.

Yeah since my blood has stopped boiling when I first read the OP 10 minutes ago, I agree that the wait, plan, and get revenge option seems best.

Anyway, remember this simple formula:

Revenge and getting away with it > No revenge > revenge and getting caught

OP I'm glad to hear that you're getting some good advice from mods and others via pm.

 

[mmallern2000]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
One more thing:

Take a lot of pictures, or better yet, take a movie of the apratment as you are leaving and make the time stamp is on and correct.

This is to ensure he cannot trash the place and then sue you for damages.

Very good idea and make sure you have witnesses as well that can testify to the condition of the apartment when you left.

I know in Denver there is a way you can get a civil standby, basically a police officer or sheriff's deputy to basically stand watch while you move out. This is also a way for there to be actual testimony on whether or not you trashed the place.

 

[mmallern2000]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst
6) Police not getting involved even multiple times...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Police are under-trained, under-paid, ignorant, racist, power tripping idiots, and 90% of them don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Depends on the city. New York... I would have to agree.

 

[AreaCode7O7]

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

The paycheck to paycheck generation? What the hell are you talking about?

Do not attempt to pass judgment on me based on your life in Naperville, Illinois - it has nothing to do with my life in New York, NY. Everyone in my age group here, regardless of occupation and education level, are struggling and living paycheck to paycheck. The economy is awful, most big firms are laying people off (and under paying), and rents are just getting more expensive.

That would be an area thing then, not a generational thing.

 

[Brainonska511]

That sucks. Can you get a restraining order against the landlord? I hope your situation improves and gets resolved.

 

[Eeezee]

Do you know if the landlord has fire insurance? If I were you, I'd burn the fucking house down after I finished moving out.

 

[between]

 

[SP33Demon]

Dude, why didn't you set up the beartrap a long time ago? Now look what happened. /sad

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: swbsam
also, getting up and leaving isn't all that easy for some people.

I'm very, very grateful that my in-laws helped my wife and I break lease from our last, abusive roommate situation. If they didn't lend us the money for the deposit we wouldn't have been able to get up and leave without our deposit.. Moving cost money. New deposits cost money. I'm sadly living in the paycheck to paycheck generation and, well, that's life.

The paycheck to paycheck generation? What the hell are you talking about?

Do not attempt to pass judgment on me based on your life in Naperville, Illinois - it has nothing to do with my life in New York, NY. Everyone in my age group here, regardless of occupation and education level, are struggling and living paycheck to paycheck. The economy is awful, most big firms are laying people off (and under paying), and rents are just getting more expensive.

That would be an area thing then, not a generational thing.

I also highly doubt everyone in that guys age group is struggling.

I have one good friend and another 5 or so 'people I know' that got set up to live in NYC by their parents. They do not a whole lot of anything. One is a perpetual student, furniture trader. His parent's still float him like $10k a month (he's about mid 30's now).

Lot's in New York have more fucking money than they they what to do with.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
alkemyst:

1. The lease allows pets
2. Both my dogs are mentioned on the lease
3. My gf is not mentioned on the lease
4. I'm the only on on the lease

Then that was why he wanted your g/f out of the apartment and why he more than likely was raising your rent.

Your g/f getting defiant with him set this stage.

Since she was staying there against the lease, she should have STFU and simply told the landlord she would let you know. Then you could have hashed it out with him.

Your neighbor did not have those dogs on his lease. Since now you have mentioned it was a part of the lease, he would have needed that also.

You should have gave your neighbor a key and let him come in to take care of the dogs.

The pissing part is your word vs his. It's sort of unlikely a landlord is going to fuck up his own place though...not saying it's not possible.

Getting you beat up over something as simple as throwing your ass out for having uncontracted tenants living there as well as a future third tenant would have been a lot more simple.

You also seem to mention a lot of details most would not think would be needed...you know the officer had a single stripe but didn't notice his nametag that should have stated his rank nor thought to just ask who he was (which should have gotten you a Capt..., Sarge..., Lt...., etc).

Your play by play of your assault seems odd too. I have been in fights and I really couldn't do a play by play of what I threw nor what was thrown at me most of the time...esp in a surprise situation.

You also saying he was perfectly a great LL then 'suddenly' now some kind of psycho leaves a lot to question, but just looking at you wanting to crack his head for mouthing off to the chick you had living there off the lease shows more against you than for you especially in about 75% of your posts you mention wanting to hurt him rather than really wanting a solution.

If you are in the right, this should be a simple to prove case. Being it's an apartment there should be witnesses other than just you and your friend.

Personally I'd just have moved on long ago.

 

[alkemyst]

I really don't get these recommendations of booby trapping an apartment...even your own home it's HIGHLY ILLEGAL. It's much like carrying an unloaded gun and waving it around is a greater crime usually than if it were loaded.

Setting fire to an apartment would now endanger a lot more lives.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
alkemyst:

1. The lease allows pets
2. Both my dogs are mentioned on the lease
3. My gf is not mentioned on the lease
4. I'm the only on on the lease

Then that was why he wanted your g/f out of the apartment and why he more than likely was raising your rent.

Your g/f getting defiant with him set this stage.

Since she was staying there against the lease, she should have STFU and simply told the landlord she would let you know. Then you could have hashed it out with him.

Your neighbor did not have those dogs on his lease. Since now you have mentioned it was a part of the lease, he would have needed that also.

You should have gave your neighbor a key and let him come in to take care of the dogs.

The pissing part is your word vs his. It's sort of unlikely a landlord is going to fuck up his own place though...not saying it's not possible.

Getting you beat up over something as simple as throwing your ass out for having uncontracted tenants living there as well as a future third tenant would have been a lot more simple.

You also seem to mention a lot of details most would not think would be needed...you know the officer had a single stripe but didn't notice his nametag that should have stated his rank nor thought to just ask who he was (which should have gotten you a Capt..., Sarge..., Lt...., etc).

Your play by play of your assault seems odd too. I have been in fights and I really couldn't do a play by play of what I threw nor what was thrown at me most of the time...esp in a surprise situation.

You also saying he was perfectly a great LL then 'suddenly' now some kind of psycho leaves a lot to question, but just looking at you wanting to crack his head for mouthing off to the chick you had living there off the lease shows more against you than for you especially in about 75% of your posts you mention wanting to hurt him rather than really wanting a solution.

If you are in the right, this should be a simple to prove case. Being it's an apartment there should be witnesses other than just you and your friend.

Personally I'd just have moved on long ago.

OMG, you are seriously trolling, lack reading comprehension skills or just a complete moran.

Who cares if the neighbor's lease doesn't have the OP's dogs on it? WTF moran, the neighbor's apartment is across the street and the OP's LL is not the same LL as the neighbors.

And you assume everything else and just making up shit. STFU!

Mods - please silence this idiot.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
OMG, you are seriously trolling, lack reading comprehension skills or just a complete moran.

Who cares if the neighbor's lease doesn't have the OP's dogs on it? WTF moran, the neighbor's apartment is across the street and the OP's LL is not the same LL as the neighbors.

And you assume everything else and just making up shit. STFU!

Mods - please silence this idiot.

I did not realize the LL's were different...it's really not to clear.

Also I don't know of any apartment's that allow dogs to be chain outside of them for obvious liability issues.

WTF is your problem though. Again I have stated everything in a calm and thought out process. Just because 'my homie from ATOT' is posting up something I don't just jump on the bandwagon like most here do.

There is nothing in his first and original post that points to anyone having the problem but his g/f and him going off on the landlord who was in the right to wanting to be compensated properly.

The rest of the explanation really doesn't make a lot of sense though, there is a lot of missing detail and it's like all one-sided instead of a normal action/reaction type of exchange.

Also all the unrelated martyr stuff on his g/f's pregnancy, c-section, etc is classic heartstring stuff.

I never said he was a liar, I simply want to hear the full story.

Since you seem to have it figured out why don't you work with the police and him to help?