finally found good kosher cheese

SandEagle

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after years of searching i finally found some asom sharp cheddar, pepper jack, and monterey jack cheeses that are 100% vegetarian! they're a bit more expensive at $5.29 for 8 oz packages, but who cares I must have teh cheese. ^_^ got em at a local meijer store.

http://redapplecheese.com/index_ngk.html

muslims, jews, vegans, and weirdos rejoice!
 

Markbnj

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Mmm, cheese. We're lucky to have a local creamery that makes excellent authentic cheeses. The store is worth a visit if you're in the vicinity of Morris County, NJ, but they also sell online. Try any one of their cheddars and it will give that Tillamook a run for its money (although I agree, Tillamook is an excellent cheese).

http://valleyshepherd.com/
 

MonKENy

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Mmm, cheese. We're lucky to have a local creamery that makes excellent authentic cheeses. The store is worth a visit if you're in the vicinity of Morris County, NJ, but they also sell online. Try any one of their cheddars and it will give that Tillamook a run for its money (although I agree, Tillamook is an excellent cheese).

http://valleyshepherd.com/

for $24 a lb
 

Markbnj

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Yeah, it is expensive I agree. Not like we eat it regularly . But if you're a cheese lover it's worth it for a special occasion, or just to check it out. They've won awards all over the country. The Tillamook vintage cheddars are around $12/pound, so basically you're paying twice as much for a hand-crafted artisan cheese made from local goat, sheep, and cow's milk and cave-aged right behind the store where it's sold. I figure that's worth 2x every now and then.
 

lxskllr

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I like Cabot dairy. They aren't the best, but they're very good, with good prices. It's a farmer co-op, so more of the money goes to the people that make it happen.
 

linuxboy

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Do any of the large producers still use rennet?
What constitutes large production for you? And where, in the US or abroad? Many cheese types require the use of animal rennet, such as parmigiano-reggiano.

I figure that's worth 2x every now and then.
Thank you for supporting artisan cheese
 

techs

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Isn't most cheese vegetarian now? Do any of the large producers still use rennet?

Vegan cheese? By it's very definition cheese is a milk product.

IIRC for many types of cheeses they still use animal stomach enzymes for flavor. Mozzarella, for example, is one that just doesn't taste right unless they do.
 

phucheneh

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Is there a lot of pork involved in cheese manufacturing?

Also any cheese that is even remotely edible has some kind of milk-derived substance in it. I know because I had allergy testing done, and one of the things that was positive was milk. So they wanted me to try to eliminate dairy from my diet to see if it helped some problems.

All the 'vegetarian' cheeses had milk protein or some shit like that listed in the ingredients. I refused to live without cheese.
 

Charles Kozierok

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Do muslims not eat cheese?

The issue is the rennet used to make the cheese. Traditionally this is made from the stomach lining of cattle, which would make its use in a dairy product prohibited for Jews.

First I've heard of it being an issue for Muslims. Maybe some producers use rennet made from pigs?

As a Vermonter, all I have to say is: Cabot Hunter's Extra Sharp, amazing, kosher, $4/lb at the local grocery store.
 
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linuxboy

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Mozzarella, for example, is one that just doesn't taste right unless they do.
The majority of low-moisture (eg pizza) mozz as well as fior di latte is made with fermentation produced chymosin and not extracts from ruminant abomassa. Mozz flavor especially is due to milk components and fermentation byproducts produced during acidification.
 

EagleKeeper

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Vegan cheese? By it's very definition cheese is a milk product.

This.

Wha=t the OP has is a product that is made to look like cheese and taste like cheese, possibly act like cheese; but it is not cheese.

Try putting it in quality cooking and/or even on a grill cheese sandwich.

I suspect that any type of heat will break it down quickly.
 

SandEagle

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actually it is real cheese. made from pasteurized milk, cheese cultures. it uses vegetable enzymes and no animal rennet. i should clarify vegetarian and not vegan.
 

lxskllr

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This.

Wha=t the OP has is a product that is made to look like cheese and taste like cheese, possibly act like cheese; but it is not cheese.

Try putting it in quality cooking and/or even on a grill cheese sandwich.

I suspect that any type of heat will break it down quickly.

I got some "swiss" slices from the dollar store once. I wanted to make grilled cheese, and didn't feel like stopping anywhere else. I knew it wasn't real cheese, but some "pasteurized processed" cheese is pretty close to the real thing, and only loses out on technicality. Unfortunately, I didn't read the ingredients in the store. I got it home and looked, and there was almost no milk product in it. The sole milk based ingredient was some minor component. It was either whey, or a lactose derived sugar. It looked like a piece of plastic, and didn't really melt on the bread. It just kind of sat there, and had no discernible flavor. I'd have made better grilled cheese just using bread and butter :^S
 

Charles Kozierok

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Yeah, the OP's link is to a company that makes real cheese.

But it's probably not very good.

That's the problem with many kosher foods: what I call "pitchers can't hit syndrome". People buy them for their "kosherness" and other attributes (like taste, healthfulness and value) are secondary.
 
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