Finally had a chance to check out Vista

[Hyperblaze]

Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer.

One of dev guys at work has Vista on his computer and accessing a samba share on our dev server.

Was helping him out with a PHP problem. The "gui enchancements" were driving me up the wall.

Have no idea if you can make Vista look and act like XP. Something without all that new bullsh!t you have to deal with.

I think I'll stay content with Fedora Core on my machine

/rant

 

[Sniper82]

I like it better then XP myself as far as looks. So far my only complaint is the control panel layout but that just takes some getting use to.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer.

One of dev guys at work has Vista on his computer and accessing a samba share on our dev server.

Was helping him out with a PHP problem. The "gui enchancements" were driving me up the wall.

Have no idea if you can make Vista look and act like XP. Something without all that new bullsh!t you have to deal with.

I think I'll stay content with Fedora Core on my machine

/rant

i have a new laptop coming with vista on it

i dont intend to stick with it

 

[Piuc2020]

I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

out of curiosity how did you feel about XP once it was first released and you using 98,ME,2000,ect? It's new so not everyone will like it.

 

[zig3695]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

hahaha like what? have fun going to the store and buying a game for linux. i have to go to work tomorrow and im going to ride my bike because it does the same thing my truck does

how can you say vista prohibits productivity? its ten-times quicker to do tasks in vista over xp. everything in xp has to be done manually, vista configures nearly everything itself. just let vista run for a couple days are do a few reboots, it will sort itself out nicely and the speed will be faster then xp. its not like xp where it slows down over time, vista does the oppisite, the longer you use it the faster it gets.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: zig3695

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

hahaha like what? have fun going to the store and buying a game for linux. i have to go to work tomorrow and im going to ride my bike because it does the same thing my truck does

how can you say vista prohibits productivity? its ten-times quicker to do tasks in vista over xp.

you may want to note 2 things

1: the OP doesnt use windows at home to start with
2: some people do more than play games on their computer, and find that what they do can be done in a better way with a different OS

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

Actually my post was directed to xSauron who with a rather bitter tone said he doesn´t plan to stick to Vista... that kind of negativity is never good.

In any case how is Vista less productive? I don´t think you can say much about an OS you used for a day (a few hours or a few minutes I don´t know). I expect a lot out of an operating system and the truth is, Vista is a very satisfying OS. I've used the Mac OS ever since it existed, I've used (used as in owned and used for years) every version of Windows since Win2k and I did give Ubuntu a go once for the heck of it... so I think I have a decent perspective on what an OS should be like. I've been using Vista for 2 months and I've been satisfied with it, I can see it will be even better once a service pack comes out and everyone (software developers for instance) migrate to Vista and start taking advantage of the system.

Of course its still understandable for someone not to like an OS but when they can't give you a good reason why, its really pathetic... also dissing an OS (or ANYTHING really) if you haven't experienced it is really, really senseless and rather inmature much like talking like you know everything when you really don't makes you look like an idiot.

 

[Cogman]

Meh, I give it about a year before people that are using windows XP now and complaining about vista will be posting question on this forum saying "How do you do *this* with vista?" or "Look at my awesome desktop."

With that, the OS is the last thing people want to upgrade and change.

 

[NotQuiteAPCGuru]

I put Vista on my new computer at home. Whee...I feel like I'm pioneering. It's a good feeling to work around issues that others can't, and experiment. Plus, I feel like I'm helping the computer comunity, since in the future, maybe some of the bug reports and feedback I'm giving will be used to help out millions of end users.

Have a great day everyone! Stay positive.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

Actually my post was directed to xSauronx who with a rather bitter tone said he doesn´t plan to stick to Vista... that kind of negativity is never good.

I dont plan to stick to Vista because I, also, use Linux. Bitterness doesn't enter into it: Id rather use Linux than any version of Windows. I used XP for years, I don't have anything *against* it, I just dont wish to continue using it, and don't see any need to use Vista over Linux when Im presently happy with what Im using. It just so happens that I need my own laptop, decided Id buy one new, and of course it comes with Vista.

But it wont be getting much, if any, use from me.

 

[imported_Troy McClure]

I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

You say Vista is a notch about XP. That might be true. Then again, it appears I expect more from an operating system then you do, if you are satisfied with Vista.

I have been nothing but more productive in using my PC since going to Vista. It is more fluent than any OS I've ever used (many distros of linux in there as well) and has yet to get bogged down like past windows OS's have done.

I'd recommend using an open mind and use it for a few days before making a decision.

Piuc2020, I could not agree more! I think people just like to knock mainstream, sure is not convenient when not using mainstream though.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

Eh, you're the one who decided to post a new thread with the bold claim of "Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer" after you experienced the GUI (and ONLY the GUI I might add). Do you think you'd just pick it right up? Did you completely understand fedora core right away, or did you have to get used to a couple of things.

To each his own, though. Just don't stink up the place on simple "gui enhancement(s)" issues. If you weren't so quick to judge and dismiss Vista on this little thing, then you'd find that you can use a classic mode look to go "back" to the original look (think Win2k).

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

Eh, you're the one who decided to post a new thread with the bold claim of "Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer" after you experienced the GUI (and ONLY the GUI I might add). Do you think you'd just pick it right up? Did you completely understand fedora core right away, or did you have to get used to a couple of things.

To each his own, though. Just don't stink up the place on simple "gui enhancement(s)" issues. If you weren't so quick to judge and dismiss Vista on this little thing, then you'd find that you can use a classic mode look to go "back" to the original look (think Win2k).

When I don't have full control over my own actions, I get pissed. (Yes, I'm a control freak when I'm on the computer). I should be able to do what I want, when I want to, how I want to. Did I completely understand fedora core right away? Absolutely. Why? Because the file structure hasn't changed at all since I first touched slackware back in 1996 KDE took me about 5-10 hours to get used to back in 1998. And it's only gotten better.

It should be noted that I actually did lose a lot of respect for Redhat 9.0 because they butchered KDE (when it takes you 2 hours to get KDE looking like KDE, there's a serious problem). I have high standards. Redhat 9.0 did not meet them.

Thanks for informing me that there is a "classic" look to go back to Win2k. My co-worker had the vista Look on and all I can relate to is first impressions. He told me it takes some getting used to. He's still not used to Vista. I guess you could say my first impression of Vista was a rather negative one.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

Eh, you're the one who decided to post a new thread with the bold claim of "Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer" after you experienced the GUI (and ONLY the GUI I might add). Do you think you'd just pick it right up? Did you completely understand fedora core right away, or did you have to get used to a couple of things.

I always find this funny about linux/windows. People will get furious if something doesn't instantly and automatically work in Windows with no effort at all. Yet, the same person will spend 6 hours trying to get a trivial thing in linux, like a sound card or device driver to work and consider it par for the course.

It's not objectivity at play, that's for sure.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I get negative when something reduces my productivity. Who said anything about me being bitter? I'm not the one who has Vista installed on their system. To be honest, I have no desire to get used to it.

Eh, you're the one who decided to post a new thread with the bold claim of "Thank GOD it wasn't on my own computer" after you experienced the GUI (and ONLY the GUI I might add). Do you think you'd just pick it right up? Did you completely understand fedora core right away, or did you have to get used to a couple of things.

I always find this funny about linux/windows. People will get furious if something doesn't instantly and automatically work in Windows with no effort at all. Yet, the same person will spend 6 hours trying to get a trivial thing in linux, like a sound card or device driver to work and consider it par for the course.

It's not objectivity at play, that's for sure.

In my opinion, if something doesn't work instantly in Linux, there is a high likely hood that the hardware manufacturer of said product did not release the hardware specs to open source developers. In all honesty, Linux supports more hardware then Windows. For example, try running Windows on anything else then a x86 and 64 bit architecture.

And yes, I do get pissed if something doesn't work instantly in Linux. But that doesn't stop me from making it work. Same thing in Windows. OS has nothing to do with it.

 

[Smitty308]

I have no experience with Vista but it seems it should run well since it takes so much RAM and CPU to even work!!!!!

 

[Tuktuk]

I am loving Vista.. I disliked the visual layout at first but now I've taken a liking to it. I used to be a bit jealous of how Macs looked visually but now I get the best of both worlds. I turned off Aero for the first time today because my laptop was running quite hot, although I'm not really sure that was the reason.

For me it seems faster than XP, but I have memory to spare. 1.2 gigs and I don't do anything intensive besides having a bunch of IE, Word, Windows Media Player, etc. windows open. Normal operating load seems to be about 300-450mb if one window is open.

Aero is a novelty and I really do like it, but to be honest I don't think it is worth the strain. My CPU is not having a hard time at all (2.0 GHz Turion).

Navigating Windows Explorer and dealing with files has become much easier. As I get used to the control panel options I find them much easier to deal with as well. No problems whatsoever with stability, I believe I've had one program crash in the two weeks I've been running it for hours a day.

I do not regret my decision at all to upgrade to Vista Business. Of course it was free for me to do that, though

 

[Nothinman]

The "gui enchancements" were driving me up the wall.

I was using a friend's machine for a bit over this past weekend and I felt the same way, the changes to explorer are annoying and the startmenu is terrible.

hahaha like what? have fun going to the store and buying a game for linux. i have to go to work tomorrow and im going to ride my bike because it does the same thing my truck does

The few games I want to play do run on Linux and I didn't have to go to a store to buy them. And if you live close to work it might be a good idea to take your bike, it's good to get some exercise once in a while.

I always find this funny about linux/windows. People will get furious if something doesn't instantly and automatically work in Windows with no effort at all. Yet, the same person will spend 6 hours trying to get a trivial thing in linux, like a sound card or device driver to work and consider it par for the course.

The difference is that once you're finished with your 6hr job you're done for good, whatever you setup or fixed stays working until you decide to change it. That's not true of Windows, at least not in the past and it's too early to tell whether it'll still be true of Vista or not.

 

[Sunner]

Figured maybe I'd get a look at it myself, but...
Holy crap Vista is friggin' expensive around here.
Almost 3k SKR for Home Premium, that's over $400, and Ultimate is damn near $700.
I wonder if Microsoft expects anyone to buy it at those prices...

Even the OEM Home Basic version is $170.

 

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
I still wonder why people are so negative about everything... seriously, life is not THAT bitter as to hate an OS that deeply... a very good OS for that matter, it might be hard to use at first but once you get used to it, its definitely a notch above XP.

It is because Vista is a Microsoft product and everyone loves to hate on them, just like Wal-Mart. I think it is penis envy.

Honestly if Vista were a Linux distro the fanboys would be on here proclaiming it as the greatest thing since KY Warming Gel(which makes their fantasy of being with a woman seem even more real), but since it is a Microsoft product it of course has to be the work of the Devil.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Smitty308
I have no experience with Vista but it seems it should run well since it takes so much RAM and CPU to even work!!!!!

This is a myth. Sure, it uses more resources than XP, but what next generation OS hasn't used more resources than its predecessor?

And memory usage is totally misunderstood. Read up on superfetch, etc. My Vista box is faster than it was with XP because of this. Finally, an OS that can smartly use my 2GB of ram...

 

[gerwen]

Of course switching to a new OS (whether in the same family or not) is going to negatively affect your productivity.... at first. The long run is a lot harder to anticipate however.

I remember being lost when switching from 98 to 2000 and XP's interface. Common tasks were.... different. You go looking for a tool in a place where you're used to it, and it's no longer there. Let the hunt begin.

I see a lot of potential in Vista, there are some nice improvements in basic tasks like window previews from the taskbar, flip 3d, and the breadcrumb bar (beginning to love breadcrumbs). Once the new tools become old hand, i'm sure I'll be quicker doing the same old tasks, but for now I'm not.

Change creates anxiety. XP --> Vista is a pretty big change (no matter what the haters say) and it's going to create problems. The problems are only transitory in nature, and will relax as the new system is learned.

 

[Solema]

I'm frankly amazed that this topic is even garnering responses.

OP is a Fedora Core user. 95% of Linux users hate Windows in all flavors, regardless of its merits. That's just how most Linux-heads work. Why should we care what their opinions (almost always negative) are about Microsoft OSes?