It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
Air Conditioner
Power Windows (with one-touch up/down on driver & passenger window w/ pinch protection)
Power Door Locks with Remote Entry
Power Outside Mirrors
Panorama Moonroof with Power Slide/Tilt Front Glass Panel and Dual Manual sunshades
Rear Window Defogger
Digital Clock
Dual Power Points
Outside Temperature Gauge
Tilt-Steering Wheel
Tachometer and Trip Meter
Sport Front Bucket Seats with Fabric Upholstery and Driver's Seat Adjustable Thigh Support
Cruise Control
Cargo Area Storage
Driver's Seat One-Touch Walk-In w/ Track and Seat Angle Memory
60/40 Split Folding Rear Seat
Rear Window Shading
Driver and Passenger Sun Visor Mirror w/ Cover
Hard Cargo Cover
Amber Instrument Panel Illumination
17" Alloy Wheels
Multi-Reflector Auto-off Halogen Headlamps
Side Mirrors with Turn Indicators
Intermittent Front Wipers
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Pioneer AM/FM/CD Head Unit (MP3 and Satellite controller capable)
Scion Sound Processing
6-Speakers (including 2 tweeters)
Rear Fender-Mount Antenna
Driver and Passenger Front Airbags
Driver Knee Airbag
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver and Passenger 3-Point Seat Belts
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Three-Across Rear Head Restraints
3-Across 3-Point Rear Seat Belts
First Aid Kit
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Passions
NFS4, I'm debating between an IS300 and tC. I fear the tC will become this in a few years....one of the reasons I'm leaning towards IS300.
http://www.dtnrox.com/mainpage_images/tC_rice.jpg
Exactly. Given the target market, I think this is a given. The IS300...just not worth it IMO. The interior and exterior doesn't scream "young professional" to me like a BMW 3-series. The ride quality is harsh on highways, wind and tire noise is high, engine power and gas mileage are weak compared to BMW's I6, and the manual is arguably the worst I've driven.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Passions
NFS4, I'm debating between an IS300 and tC. I fear the tC will become this in a few years....one of the reasons I'm leaning towards IS300.
http://www.dtnrox.com/mainpage_images/tC_rice.jpg
Exactly. Given the target market, I think this is a given. The IS300...just not worth it IMO. The interior and exterior doesn't scream "young professional" to me like a BMW 3-series. The ride quality is harsh on highways, wind and tire noise is high, engine power and gas mileage are weak compared to BMW's I6, and the manual is arguably the worst I've driven.
If its got the same 5-speed as my parents' camry then I completely agree. What a POS shifter. Shifters on arcade machines are more precise.
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
a civic ex with no options, right? this is 16k with lots included, or am I wrong?
what bells and whistles are missing from this car that a $26k solara has (isn't that how much they are?)? That's $10k worth of options
FYI: I'm not arguing, I'm just curious.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Passions
NFS4, I'm debating between an IS300 and tC. I fear the tC will become this in a few years....one of the reasons I'm leaning towards IS300.
http://www.dtnrox.com/mainpage_images/tC_rice.jpg
Exactly. Given the target market, I think this is a given. The IS300...just not worth it IMO. The interior and exterior doesn't scream "young professional" to me like a BMW 3-series. The ride quality is harsh on highways, wind and tire noise is high, engine power and gas mileage are weak compared to BMW's I6, and the manual is arguably the worst I've driven.
If its got the same 5-speed as my parents' camry then I completely agree. What a POS shifter. Shifters on arcade machines are more precise.
A Camry with a 5-speed? Hahaha. That's like taking a picture of Rueben Studdard holding a can of V8
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
a civic ex with no options, right? this is 16k with lots included, or am I wrong?
what bells and whistles are missing from this car that a $26k solara has (isn't that how much they are?)? That's $10k worth of options
FYI: I'm not arguing, I'm just curious.
A Civic EX has all the options by virtue of it being an EX - that's A/C, power locks, power windows, AM/FM/CD, Sunroof, VTEC engine, alloy wheels, etc.
The Solara, for one thing, is much bigger and has an available V6...
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: miri
Anyone know if these will sell out fast? I will probably be buying one but would rather not preorder one unless the demand is high enough that they will sell out.
I just need to make sure I get a new car before school starts in August.
I bet these things will FLY off the lot at that price. There's no haggling, so walk in, pay MSRP and leave.
It's worth noting, though, that the Civic's price is negotiable and you would certainly pay less than MSRP, while the Scion's is non-negotiable. Of course, you'd have to get some serious discounts on the Civic to come near the value of the tC IMO.Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
a civic ex with no options, right? this is 16k with lots included, or am I wrong?
what bells and whistles are missing from this car that a $26k solara has (isn't that how much they are?)? That's $10k worth of options
FYI: I'm not arguing, I'm just curious.
A Civic EX has all the options by virtue of it being an EX - that's A/C, power locks, power windows, AM/FM/CD, Sunroof, VTEC engine, alloy wheels, etc.
The Solara, for one thing, is much bigger and has an available V6...
Civic has 127 HP. tC has 160 and a sh!t load more torque (114 vs 163)
Civic has rear drums. tC has 4-wheel discs
Civic has 15" wheels. tC has 17" wheels
tC has a longer wheelbase and a roomier back seat with reclining seats that have 10 positions
tC has hatchback verstatility with fold flat rear seats and a folding flat front passenger seat
tC has a 160 watt radio/CD that is MP3 capable
tC has a full-length sunroof
The interior of the Civic EX is nothing to write home about
tC MSRP is $16,465
Civic EX Coupe MSRP is $16,860
It's not a tough decision
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: MAME
wow, that seems very nice.
why is it so cheap? there must be issues
It costs about the same as a Civic EX. The only "issue" is that it's an economy car and will be lacking in some of the bells, whistles and refinements you find in higher end cars.
Otherwise, it won't have any more issues than any other Toyota.
a civic ex with no options, right? this is 16k with lots included, or am I wrong?
what bells and whistles are missing from this car that a $26k solara has (isn't that how much they are?)? That's $10k worth of options
FYI: I'm not arguing, I'm just curious.
A Civic EX has all the options by virtue of it being an EX - that's A/C, power locks, power windows, AM/FM/CD, Sunroof, VTEC engine, alloy wheels, etc.
The Solara, for one thing, is much bigger and has an available V6...
Civic has 127 HP. tC has 160 and a sh!t load more torque (114 vs 163)
Civic has rear drums. tC has 4-wheel discs
Civic has 15" wheels. tC has 17" wheels
tC has a longer wheelbase and a roomier back seat with reclining seats that have 10 positions
tC has hatchback verstatility with fold flat rear seats and a folding flat front passenger seat
tC has a 160 watt radio/CD that is MP3 capable
tC has a full-length sunroof
The interior of the Civic EX is nothing to write home about
tC MSRP is $16,465
Civic EX Coupe MSRP is $16,860
It's not a tough decision
Originally posted by: BigSmooth
0-60 in 7 seconds seems like a number IGN pulled out of their asses. It's pretty clear from all the reviews that no one had a chance to do any instrumented testing.
And that seems pretty damn optimistic considering the power/weight ratio given the specs we've seen.
Originally posted by: andylawcc
MAME:
Civic EX 1.7L obviously would beat the tC's 2.4L handdowns in gas mileage. but I will see you on the tracks
you can't have 160hp AND 160 torque AND 30 above MPG all together. you would be asking for too much.
Originally posted by: andylawcc
also, tC has 4 independent suspension, while neither the Camry nor the Maxima does.
Originally posted by: andylawcc
MAME:
Civic EX 1.7L obviously would beat the tC's 2.4L handdowns in gas mileage. but I will see you on the tracks
you can't have 160hp AND 160 torque AND 30 above MPG all together. you would be asking for too much.
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: andylawcc
MAME:
Civic EX 1.7L obviously would beat the tC's 2.4L handdowns in gas mileage. but I will see you on the tracks
you can't have 160hp AND 160 torque AND 30 above MPG all together. you would be asking for too much.
is 25 too unreasonable?
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: andylawcc
MAME:
Civic EX 1.7L obviously would beat the tC's 2.4L handdowns in gas mileage. but I will see you on the tracks
you can't have 160hp AND 160 torque AND 30 above MPG all together. you would be asking for too much.
is 25 too unreasonable?