FINALLY!! Scion tC Preview(s)

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: lsman
Untill Scion brand fly, it will sell within a Toyota showroom. (someone actually on to one of the Toyota dealership can tell us?)
So ppl may say "Toyota" Scion tC

And I wonder if they share their saleperson?

If a Subaru dealership also sells new Volvos, would an XC90 be called a Subaru Volvo XC90? I think not.

in the same showroom?

The dealership in Burlington sells VW, Volvo and Subaru all in the same showroom.

Autobahn here in Ft Worth sells BMW, Volvo, Jaguar, Porsche, VW, and Land Rover. Personally I think they should kick out VW for Saab. VW just isn't in the same league of cars with the others.

All the cars have seperate buildings though, and seperate service areas, but they share some mechanics. Apparently VWs and Porsches share similar construction concepts. I knew a mechanic who worked there that got to drive a GT2! He also drove the Phaeton before it was released.

I have to say, VW, Volvo and Subaru certainly is a strange grouping of cars. They're really not that similar. You can't really upsell someone from a Golf GTI to a Volvo s40. Plus they wouldn't sell any Impreza's as long as there were some S60Rs around.

If you've seen/driven the new Saab 93 you'd understand why Saab is no longer worthy of being in that group.

I have seen several VW, Audi and Porsche dealers; they keep the family together.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Passions
NFS4, I'm debating between an IS300 and tC. I fear the tC will become this in a few years....one of the reasons I'm leaning towards IS300.


http://www.dtnrox.com/mainpage_images/tC_rice.jpg

Yeah, but some IS300s already look like that. It's just ricing in different price groups. Well at least the IS has rear wheel drive and can benefit from a spoiler (if designed for it).

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: NutBucket
More like they re-geared the tranny for better accleration.

The CC article mentioned that acceleration was rather soft, so I dunno.

I'm too lazy to look up specs but if the 2.4 is anything like the previous gen camry engines (tho it does say its all new in the '02 Camry) it just doesn't feel like its all that powerful.

Toyota 2.4 (in the tC)
160 hp @ 6,000 RPM
163 lb-ft @ 4,200 RPM

Honda 2.4 (in the Accord)
160HP @ 5,500 RPM
161 lb-ft @ 4,500 RPM

Mazda 2.3 (in the 3s)
160 HP @ 6,500 RPM
150 lb-ft @ 4,500 RPM

Just a quick note - when I test drove an 04 Camry - the 2.4 felt weak. It was noisy, felt really sluggish, and had no real pickup compared to the Accord. I had to mash it down to get decent acceleration out of it. (Then again I don't know if it has a 5 speed auto like it's competitors)

Yeah the Accord flies compared to the Camry, but it's all due to a very short first gear in the Accord.

 

[Nebor]

If this car can really do 0-60 in 7 seconds, it will spawn a whole new generation of ricers. I wish they would stop trying to make inexpensive cars quick. Poor people don't need to go fast. That's what Ferrari owners say about US.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Can you import this car into Canada?

 

[NFS4]

Updated 6/1

(Another) One For The Kids: Toyota's Youth Division Adds A Third Model

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Updated 7/1

(Another) One For The Kids: Toyota's Youth Division Adds A Third Model

6/1 bitch!

 

[NFS4]

http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0406/04/b01-173558.htm
http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_scion_tc_youthful/

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0406/04/b01-173558.htm

that guy posing there makes me want to not buy the car

http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_scion_tc_youthful/

looks kinda weird from the front

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Nebor
If this car can really do 0-60 in 7 seconds, it will spawn a whole new generation of ricers. I wish they would stop trying to make inexpensive cars quick. Poor people don't need to go fast. That's what Ferrari owners say about US.

It's going to need a supercharger to compete with the real speed demon in the cheap speed bracket - The SRT-4.

The S/C option will put it on par with the SRT-4 in cost, but it will still have about 20% less power.

I like the tC, but the SRT-4 will tear it up in performance.

Viper GTS

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Nebor
If this car can really do 0-60 in 7 seconds, it will spawn a whole new generation of ricers. I wish they would stop trying to make inexpensive cars quick. Poor people don't need to go fast. That's what Ferrari owners say about US.

It's going to need a supercharger to compete with the real speed demon in the cheap speed bracket - The SRT-4.

The S/C option will put it on par with the SRT-4 in cost, but it will still have about 20% less power.

I like the tC, but the SRT-4 will tear it up in performance.

Viper GTS

And the tC would tear it up in everything else like ride quality, interior materials, fit-finish, build quality, stereo, features, standard equipment, safety...ya know...the important stuff

 

[NFS4]

Tons of pics. Downloadable pics (the larger ones) require a press pass

http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_photos.html?show=photos&page=1&index=TMAkw&kw=scion%20tc


More pics:

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/ScionTC/Photos.htm

 

[NotoriousJTC]

I've basically gone from knowing nothing about this car to loving it in about 24 hrs... Hell i didn't know anything about the Scion brand period.



I am loving the fact that there is another competitor in this segment, a strong competitor at that. 2 Thumbs up.

 

[CTrain]

Noticed how all of these reviews have no track times at all ??
Seems like Toyota let all these people test the car but not any performance times.
This car is going to be like 7.8-8.0 secs from 0-60.

Like I said, I can get use to the looks but its one heavy compact car.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Noticed how all of these reviews have no track times at all ??
Seems like Toyota let all these people test the car but not any performance times.
This car is going to be like 7.8-8.0 secs from 0-60.

Like I said, I can get use to the looks but its one heavy compact car.

B/C you normally don't do instrumented testing during (P)reviews:roll:

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CTrain
Noticed how all of these reviews have no track times at all ??
Seems like Toyota let all these people test the car but not any performance times.
This car is going to be like 7.8-8.0 secs from 0-60.

Like I said, I can get use to the looks but its one heavy compact car.

B/C you normally don't do instrumented testing during (P)reviews:roll:

BS, the cars are already showing up at dealerships, how much more "preview" are they going to do ??
Beside, most of these articles I read, they call them reviews.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CTrain
Noticed how all of these reviews have no track times at all ??
Seems like Toyota let all these people test the car but not any performance times.
This car is going to be like 7.8-8.0 secs from 0-60.

Like I said, I can get use to the looks but its one heavy compact car.

B/C you normally don't do instrumented testing during (P)reviews:roll:

BS, the cars are already showing up at dealerships, how much more "preview" are they going to do ??
Beside, most of these articles I read, they call them reviews.

The cars showing up at dealer lots are demo cars. Dealers won't get cars for sale until June 30th. Toyota is still finishing up final spec cars about 2 weeks behind schedule b/c of a death at the tC plant...a worker fell into a press or something

SUCK ON IT

 

[ItsPat]

Nice car, definatelly going to check it out.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CTrain
Noticed how all of these reviews have no track times at all ??
Seems like Toyota let all these people test the car but not any performance times.
This car is going to be like 7.8-8.0 secs from 0-60.

Like I said, I can get use to the looks but its one heavy compact car.

B/C you normally don't do instrumented testing during (P)reviews:roll:

BS, the cars are already showing up at dealerships, how much more "preview" are they going to do ??
Beside, most of these articles I read, they call them reviews.

The cars showing up at dealer lots are demo cars. Dealers won't get cars for sale until June 30th. Toyota is still finishing up final spec cars about 2 weeks behind schedule b/c of a death at the tC plant...a worker fell into a press or something

SUCK ON IT

Please, I can find at least 5 articles that call themselves "reviews" as oppose to you calling them "previews"
I find it suspicious that Toyota hasn't let anyone or no one has actually tested some actual times.
I think its going to be a slow mule.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: CTrain
I think its going to be a slow mule.

It's a Toyota - it's standard on all models.

 

[EvilYoda]

I think you've hurt his feelings

 

[PCMarine]

Man if I were 4/5 years older and out of college with some extra money I'd be all over this. This or the mazda 3s...

 

[pcmodem]

The Scion tV looks like a Hyundai Tiburon that's been severely beaten with an ugly stick.



Cheers, :beer:
PCM

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: CTrain
I think its going to be a slow mule.

It's a Toyota - it's standard on all models.

LOL!!!!! It's so true!!!

 

[NFS4]

HOTT!!!