Finding God now?!

[AznMaverick]

You know it's wierd how, for most people, it takes a messed up event like this to go get them to go to church and pray and 'find god'. Then when this feeling wears down, most people forget God even exists....

 

[JonnyDuke]

Yep... it's sad, very sad...

 

[Czar]

To me this is just more proof that god as many belive it does not exist.

 

[FJ]

Czar said:
To me this is just more proof that god as many belive it does not exist.

I somewhat agree with Czar, but I won't say it's proof... I'll say it gives doubt that the god so many people believe in does exist...

But what do I know, I'm just a bloody agnostic.

EDIT: Darn bloody double negatives

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[Zwingle]

How could you lose something or someone that his supposedly all around? I agree 100% with you Czar.....this adds to the proof that there is no god. How could an all forgiving god let this thing happen.

 

[EXman]

<< To me this is just more proof that god as many belive it does not exist. >>



That is funny since you have seen many public people turn to GOD just as the unspoken majority has done.

 

[Superdoopercooper]

Zwingle...

If God never allowed anything bad to happen, would people care about him even more than they do now? Think about it... when times are good and people have a buck in their pockets, they forget all about God. But when tragedy hits, its "oh... how could an all loving God let stuff like this happen".

He does love everyone and he hopes and wills they they come to know Him through Jesus. But if everythign was peachy keen all the time, why would anyone do any soul-searching? Would people ever stop and realize that there is more to this life than making money and going to work? I really don't think so. Events like this, though sad, tragic and unnecessary in our minds, can have profound reprocutions on a higher, spiritual plane. What you can see and touch isn't all that is out there.

So, the argument that "how can an all loving God...." generally needs some more background, research, and soul-searching to come to grips with. Assuming you have even the slightest glimmer in you mind that there may be a God, then think abou this: He creates life. And it is his choice to bring that life (spirit) back at his chosen time and place. It is not for us to decide. So... who knows (other than God), but maybe it was time for each and everyone of those people that were killed in this tragedy to meet his/her Maker??!! And this was the form it came in.

Well... that is about as well as i can write my thoughts at this time. Please seriously consider them. Please make this a civil discussion; not bashing others for their beliefs.

Thanks...

 

[Zwingle]

<< << To me this is just more proof that god as many belive it does not exist. >> >>





<< That is funny since you have seen many public people turn to GOD just as the unspoken majority has done. >>



Insecurity leads to these childish beliefs....god ain't helping......Why would this god you beileve in would not allow these type of atrocities to happen if he was so holy and good. I certaintly wouldn't want a god that allows it. Not a very gracious god. I do believe in a higher form of life...but not god that you ppl believe and put on a pedestal.

I am not bashing....just want to know why religious ppl are so wishy washy in their beliefs....that was the thread title....this pertains to the title...my beliefs don't waver. Religious ppl like to fit god in the picture when it is convenient to them or there is a catastrophe and they need him.....if you are going to be religious, be so all the time.....not part time.

 

[FJ]

Please make this a civil discussion; not bashing others for their beliefs.

Ummm, who's been bashing other for their beliefs?

Or is this just a plea for those who post later?

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[TripleJ]

Superdoopercooper, while I take your points, that many people need some spiritual understanding to the situation, which can be a very useful human traight, it just seems that what you say means that it doesn't really matter if he exists anyway. He seemingly doesn't make a difference.

Me, atheist, have knocked back several well paid jobs because they were going to encroach on my personal life. That's just me, but I'm sure many an atheist would have done the same. I really don't think it would matter if you were religious or not to make those sorts of understandings.

I think that it's just life. The people who have died were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, nothing more than that.

 

[Superdoopercooper]

<< Please make this a civil discussion; not bashing others for their beliefs.

Ummm, who's been bashing other for their beliefs?

Or is this just a plea for those who post later?

F >>



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Just added that in there, because some of these threads turn into ridiculous bashing threads... and no real discussion is accomplished. Just trying to avoid that. That is all...

 

[Superdoopercooper]

TripleJ...

Points well taken.

I, of course, believe that God does help people on my different levels. Healing. Emotionally. Etc. I have seen so many people's prayers answered and just some situations that cannot really be explained other than having the hand of God in them. And just the awesomeness and beauty of creation is unexplainable, in my mind, except by a Creationist point of view.

Not everyone has seen these things, and of course not everyone is going to believe what I believe. Each person has the choice to believe what he/she choses.

 

[FJ]

Superdoopercooper said:
Just added that in there, because some of these threads turn into ridiculous bashing threads... and no real discussion is accomplished. Just trying to avoid that. That is all...

I hear ya. Seems to have been a lot more of it yesterday and today .

Hopefully it'll calm down to the semi-consistent bashing that normally occurs ...

Thanks for the clarification,
F

 

[EXman]

<< Insecurity leads to these childish beliefs....god ain't helping......Why would this god you beileve in would not allow these type of atrocities to happen if he was so holy and good. I certaintly wouldn't want a god that allows it. Not a very gracious god. I do believe in a higher form of life...but not god that you ppl believe and put on a pedestal. >>


Sorry for you bro you just don't get it.



<< I am not bashing >>


Yes quite frankly you are bashing...




<< just want to know why religious ppl are so wishy washy in their beliefs....that was the thread title....this pertains to the title...my beliefs don't waver. Religious ppl like to fit god in the picture when it is convenient to them or there is a catastrophe and they need him.....if you are going to be religious, be so all the time.....not part time. >>


Amen Brother if you talk the talk, walk the walk. Unfortunatly there are many people who think they are religious that really are just fooling themselves. There is nothing more offensive to Christians than hypocrits who give Real believers a bad name. Heck when I see a Jahovah or Mormon (which is not Christian more Cult but that is a different discussion) I want to walk the other way cause I do not have the time to tell them that they are pissing more people off and turning people off to God. It is sad. So I understand where you are coming from but don't lump all religous groups together. It is not right and inaccurate to do so. So embrace what you want but overgeneralize it makes you sound intolerant and foolhardy.

Peace and GOD bless America.

 

[classy]

The last time I checked, God wasn't flying those planes. Atrocities are not the work of God. There is good and evil in this world. God is good. Thank You Jesus. Amen.