Finishing popup adds for good.

elkinm

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Popup have become very common in today's browsing and they keep getting more annoying an troublesome. The basic ones open an ad with a website. Then some popups appear when going over a window or a link. It get's bad when these popups open another popup when they are closed and then the next popup opens a new one and so on causing a possible endless loop. What is worst is that some popups also open in a modified window, such that there is no address bar, no file menu and sometimes no title bar or anything for navigation or closing the window. The only way to close such window is ALT-F4 or kill it from task manager which in this case will most likely kill the system and require a restart. Also popups sometimes modify your mouse cursor and disable the proper right click if not the left click as even clicking the possibly available close button does nothing, and in the same way the start menu may be covered making it nearly impossible to close programs or navigate and the start menu must be forced to appear by using the "open windows" key of the win98 keyboard. And any combination of these result in simply very dangerous popups.

I have a Win XP system which is extremely stable as I have never had a system crash and only some program crashes. Earlier today I encountered the worst set of popup adds that I have ever seen (or did not see). It consisted of about 6 simultaneous regenerative windows without any menus and they took over my desktop as when I tried the show desktop icon it shoed me one of the adds, it disabled the right click and crippled the left click as in most case when I tried viewing a specific window I could not nor could I close the popups. I use an add killing program which was capable of closing these windows when I set it to do so but it was not successful, as a new set of popups was opened and my computer was stuck in an endless loop. And because it effected my desktop, using ctrl-alt-delete was useless as the popups would always appear over the task manager and there was no way to close them. And after over half an hour of endless popups and beeping, windows could not take it and reset my computer on it's own. The scan disk at start found many errors and my popup killer program retained no record of any of the popups dew to the reset. I was not able to retrace the source of these popups but I noticed that more and more ads I encountered can last a minute or more in the loop until my add killer finally stops them.

My goal is to either modify XP and/or create a program to end my troubles. To start I want to somehow modify XP and Internet Explorer such that no popup regardless of it's properties or settings could modify my system display. Meaning that every window will always have a title bar, an address bar, the navigation bar and the file menus, also so that no widow will be able to disable or modify any of the mouse function or hide the start menu. These steps are primary and I think should be the easiest as these are all parts of XP in some way and I believe can be fixed through some reasonable small modifications to it. The next step would be to find some way to disable regenerative popups as these are the ones that open new ones on exit and cause the most problems. This is a little more complicated as I think it should involve some kind of OS lock that will not allow any new window or any command or instruction coming from a file that is being closed. Since every window can be seen as a process, it should be possible to put a lock on that process when the command to close it has been received such that any popups caused by it would be completely ignored by the system and the add will close quietly. Another possible alternative, although not preferred is to simply disable popups of any kind as any command or text that might cause a popup would not just be closed or stopped but instead windows would not be able to run it at all such that any such code would always be though of as errors and ignored. One fix to this is maybe to allow popups resulting directly from a mouse slick as in some cases popup windows are not ads and are important.

I am looking for serious help and I am posting this on several posts to see if I get any good responses before I post it in the highly technical forum. I assume this will require some serious modifications or programming beyond any popup filtering software I have ever seen so most likely any software that one might recommend probably does not do what I want it to do. I am looking for an extreme fix, a hack of windows or something like that or maybe even a virus as long as it does what I want it to do.

Thank You very much for any help you can provide.
 

Travail

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Elkinm, would you consider using another browser? I don't know about the Windows version, but the Mozilla build for Linux has a checkbox to disable unrequested pop-ups.

Moving bookmarks was painless.
 

Oneder

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..... I am looking for an extreme fix, a hack of windows or something like that .........
So I assume using ZoneAlarm to temp. stop all internet activity and close the
popups is not what your looking for ?
 

Electrode

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Suggestion 1: Don't download warez and pr0n all the time
Suggestion 2: Get a real browser. Since you're using Winblows, your options are somewhat limited, but Mozilla and Opera are great, and both can disable popup ads without breaking good popup windows, and without the use of other programs that could be spyware for all you know.

I think that whoever at M$ thought that integrating an OS-level scripting language into a web browser was a good idea should be drawn, quartered, disemboweled, hung, shot, injected with sulfuric acid, castrated with a rusty hacksaw, and then REALLY hurt.
 

skriefal

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Popups will probably die by themselves. Unfortunately, at the same time they'll likely be replaced by even more intrusive advertising methods. A few sites I've visited recently used an extremely annoying tactic which involved the ad initially beginning as a small banner ad at the top of the page, but the banner add quickly scrolled/unrolled down the page. It then covered the entire page for about 10 seconds before rolling back up and allowing me to read the page contents. I suspect that stuff like that -- along with interstitials -- will become common in the next year. Working around those will be difficult...
 

Dale

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MS Internet Destroyer is becoming very good at its designed purpose

elkinm search on Google, several of the VB sites have patches
to the DLLs that allow the popups, I have not tried them because Pop Up Killer works for me



soon there will be third party programs that 'patch' MS code to give
the user what they want, instead of what the marketing people want them
to have

..Dale
 

Need4Speed

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another vote for opera....of course i believe that all it does is disable javascripting to open new windows. this can become a pain for legit pages that use it to start another session....like clicking on a thumbnail to view a larger image...etc.

I still like POW since it lets me build up a database...
 

GrumpyMan

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Pop Up Killer works pretty good for me. I find that the one on Zone Alarm Pro interferes with certain web pages loading correctly.
 

EHobaX

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I use a nifty proggie called Pop-Up stopper. It will only let one IE window open at one time unless you manually create another by using the Shift or Ctrl button as the Pop-Up stopper canceller.

Windows that are brought up by webpages (i.e. the hated X-10 ads) are killed instantly. Woohoo! Very small, but very efficient.
 

elkinm

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Thanks for the help, I tried Opera and Mozilla and although they are not bad I do think IE 6.0 is still faster and better for me. Opera has add which are not that bad but it also stops popups by disabling javascript which can be done in IE as well but even AnandTech requires javascript to load properly so that is a bad option. Mozilla is good with popups as it will alow a javascript to execute it selected but does not alow other scripting like popups so it is basicly the kind of implementaion I am looking for to make for IE. Since Mozilla is open source, I was wondering if anybody hwo has the code might now how it is implemented or minght know how to implement the same in IE. Also, I still have not found a way to maintain my window and mose view and control settings in Mozilla or Opera. I don't want to alow a website to modify the view of my browser windows so I can always see at least the title bar, address bar as well as the file menues. The code to modify this, I think is part of javascript so it might not work with it enabled but then no javascrips work and Mozilla so far has not maintained it's specific view like I want. And of course I don't want my mouse cursor or the scrol bar to change shape or collor nor do I want some of the mouse buttons dissabled.

Any more help would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks aggain
 

DeeK

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elkinm: If you prefer IE6, then I highly recommend CrazyBrowser. It uses the IE rendering engine, adds tabbed browsing, and has an option to disable unrequested popups. Requested popups (like previewing a post here) are opened in new tabs. It also has extra Alt-Enter and Shift-Enter shortcuts to automatically add .net and .org just like Ctrl-Enter adds .com. In short, it's just about everything IE6 should have been.

Edit: I forgot to mention that it's ad-free freeware!
 

Escalade

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If you are *really* serious about killing pop-ups try turning off active scripting... In IE click on Tools at the top of the screen, then Internet Options in the drop-down menu. Click on the Security Tab and highlight the globe icon that says Internet. Click on the Custom Level button and disable Active Scripting.

This will kill *ALL* pop-ups and other uses of Javascripts.
 

Escalade

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FYI... when a window opens without a title bar, address bar, navigation bar and the file menus, all you have to do is press F11, this will expand the window full screen and the title bar, address bar, navigation bar and the file menus will appear.
 

SuperT

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another vote for adsubtract pro. i just started using it this morning and am very impressed. its suprising how clean web pages look with NO BANNER ADS! let alone no pop-ups.
 

shikhan

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when pop-ups start to appear, just hold "esc" until they stop. Simple and effective as it stops it from even loading. Then just a simple close. This is what I used before Meya or ZA
 
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