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Pabster

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Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: mugs
It takes time and money... they're spending billions per year on this. I believe the cost of the program is about $1000 per house.

Last I saw Verizon was saying start-up costs per house were something like $2,400 per.

It is very, very expensive.
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: randomlinh
it just irks me because I live in the initial roll out county.. and will probably be one of the last to ever get it at this rate.

I was talking with the tech who set me up and asked why my particular town was 2 years behind neighboring towns (same county). He stated that sometimes Verizon faces jurisdiction problems (vs. cable companies, etc.) and have to await a court decision. This was the case for Long Island towns and each had to provide approval. He added that in NJ, it was 1 approval for the entire state, so it was much easier. It may be the case that your towns are doing the same thing to them.

I'm just going with our area isn't exactly likely to be the most profitable. Even though some family I have has fios in an area that I would consider to be on the border of iffy, that is closer to money then where I am unfortunately. But who knows. Maybe I should ask the next verizon tech I see on the road fixing something nearby, haha.
 

EKKC

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May 31, 2005
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20/20 is nothing if verizon starts capping. stupid TWC and ATT are doing it in select markets.

here's hoping verizon won't "experiment" on capping their users like college students experimenting on their sexual urges.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: EKKC
20/20 is nothing if verizon starts capping. stupid TWC and ATT are doing it in select markets.

here's hoping verizon won't "experiment" on capping their users like college students experimenting on their sexual urges.

They ARE capping... it's called tiers and we're paying by tier.

Cable companies usually offer 1 speed to everybody and cap from there if you're being evil to their bandwidth. I was capped by Optimum Online to some ridiculously low speed - basically not getting what I continued to pay for. If they're making me pay full price still, same as everyone else, why should I stand for that? I gave them the finger a long time ago. FIOS is a godsend... well, actually their tier prices are.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: EKKC
20/20 is nothing if verizon starts capping. stupid TWC and ATT are doing it in select markets.

here's hoping verizon won't "experiment" on capping their users like college students experimenting on their sexual urges.

i doubt VZ will implemet caps, it seems they are doing the opp of what cable companys are,

Cable Cos are bitching that they dont have enough bandwidth and throttle/cap people

VZ says WOOT MORE BANDWIDTH FOR JOO!!!
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: mugs
It takes time and money... they're spending billions per year on this. I believe the cost of the program is about $1000 per house.

Last I saw Verizon was saying start-up costs per house were something like $2,400 per.

It is very, very expensive.

That may be the case. I'm thinking the ~$1000 that I read was actually AT&T's cost for fiber to the node, and I think I actually read something along the lines of $1500 for fiber to the premises. $2400 is very possible.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: mugs
It takes time and money... they're spending billions per year on this. I believe the cost of the program is about $1000 per house.

Last I saw Verizon was saying start-up costs per house were something like $2,400 per.

It is very, very expensive.

That may be the case. I'm thinking the ~$1000 that I read was actually AT&T's cost for fiber to the node, and I think I actually read something along the lines of $1500 for fiber to the premises. $2400 is very possible.
Well you have 25+ years to make it back, the fiber is going to be providing service for quite a while.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Well you have 25+ years to make it back, the fiber is going to be providing service for quite a while.

Yeah, I was responding to the guy who said they should expand more. It's a huge layout of cash, and expanding faster would cost even more. They're expanding it at a pretty fast rate as it is.
 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: randomlinh
it just irks me because I live in the initial roll out county.. and will probably be one of the last to ever get it at this rate.

I was talking with the tech who set me up and asked why my particular town was 2 years behind neighboring towns (same county). He stated that sometimes Verizon faces jurisdiction problems (vs. cable companies, etc.) and have to await a court decision. This was the case for Long Island towns and each had to provide approval. He added that in NJ, it was 1 approval for the entire state, so it was much easier. It may be the case that your towns are doing the same thing to them.

They are building it out like crazy all around me. I check the construction notifications each month praying to see my street finally show up. Driving me nucking futs to drive by the trucks doing the work in some of the neighborhoods I pass through on the way to work. So close yet so far.
 

mooseracing

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Mar 9, 2006
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Maybe this will help bring down T1 and T3 cost...A 20/20 line will kill those and is cheaper than T1, I know where I work we would sign up for that in a heartbeat. We are currently maxing out 2 T1's and 3Mb DSL.

We are planning on signing a 3 yr contract with comcast to get cable run to the business, 16/2, ~100 a month, waiving the construction fee if we sign for 3 yrs.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I hate waiting for FIOS. Chicago's been in the "future deployment" area since I first started hearing about Fios on the east coast, yet I haven't heard anything about when in the future they are talking about. Perhaps I'll have my flying car before that point!
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe this will help bring down T1 and T3 cost...A 20/20 line will kill those and is cheaper than T1, I know where I work we would sign up for that in a heartbeat. We are currently maxing out 2 T1's and 3Mb DSL.

We are planning on signing a 3 yr contract with comcast to get cable run to the business, 16/2, ~100 a month, waiving the construction fee if we sign for 3 yrs.

problem is your T1 probable has no limit and/or much higher limits.

make sure they put it in writing what if any limits are to the comcast deal. Mak esure it is plain english like each month you get...
 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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I wish att would get something like this rolling. They are dragging their feet just getting that U-Verse crap out by my house.
 

JasonK

Senior member
Jan 24, 2000
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Keep in mind the article said "NEW" customers, not sure if existing customers will receive upgrade.... PM me if you are on the west coast. I can provide some timelines of availability
 

Foxery

Golden Member
Jan 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe this will help bring down T1 and T3 cost...A 20/20 line will kill those and is cheaper than T1, I know where I work we would sign up for that in a heartbeat. We are currently maxing out 2 T1's and 3Mb DSL.

T-lines are a different product class entirely, though.
1) They're ancient technology (1980s?)
2) T1s use plain old telephone service (multiple lines bonded together)
3) T3s - you pay to have the wires run (beaucoup bucks)
4) 100% bandwidth and 99.99% uptime is guaranteed for business-class service. Not for residential.

I am, however, greatly intrigued by the huge upstream speed on some of these. Residential plans usually cap upstream at such low rates so you won't run servers from it. How much language is there in the FIOS contracts in regards to running servers?
 

fstime

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2004
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I get 15 mbps for $45 a month and can get 30 mbps for $10 more.

Not worth it, especially since I have all my services under one bill and save there too.
 

RightIsWrong

Diamond Member
Apr 29, 2005
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I have a small local company for my fiber to the house connection (Grande Comm) and downloaded a few ISOs from MS yesterday and thought that I was doing good (3.7GB < 1hr 1.14MB/sec sustained for the entire time).

I can't imagine the download goodness with 20/20 connection.
 
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