firefighter arrested responding to accident

[Cruisin1]

Error 404
Arrest Not Found

Guess what's going to happen if that cops house is on fire....

Error 404
Fire Department not found

 

[Leyawiin]

Looks like someone has a chip on his shoulder about not being "respected" enough. Be interesting to see who gets tickets from him and who doesn't.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Guess what's going to happen if that cops house is on fire....

Error 404
Fire Department not found

Yep lol. That fire department should try to figure out where that cop lives, so they can give that house very low priority treatment if there is a call. "Truck was making a funny sound, think a wheel was loose, had to stop and check torque, sorry man".

Heck, are they allowed to outright refuse? They could say they don't feel safe going to a cop's house because they don't trust that cop. Heck, put a the entire PD on black list till they release the firefighter. I wonder if they have any kind of authority to do that. Sadly, probably not.

 

[baydude]

this is just like the same thing that happened a few years ago. A CHP officer ordered a firefighter to move a truck. they refused. firefighter got arrested.

firefighter then sued police officer. Police officer lost something to the tune of 19k

on a scene of a accident listen to the firefighter. they are trying to save lives and protect themselves.

the officer was way out of line for asking to move the truck then arresting him.

I remember that incident. The firefighters purposely placed the trucks there to protect him and his team from oncoming traffic. Cops could have helped by directing traffic over to the side but arrested him for trying to protect his fellow fire fighters.

 

[alkemyst]

Obey and Comply.

Police officers can NOT take no for an answer in any circumstances.
Police officers MUST initiate and escalate force to obtain the desired results.
Police officer safety is the primary concern.

QFT...they are shooting family pets in increasing numbers now even when they are caged and/or chained.

All the officer has to claim is an animal is hindering his investigation. It's doesn't even have to be a threat to his well-being.

 

[alkemyst]

This.

That being said, I can't tell you the number of times FD has made situations worse with the way they've parked (most of the time in a spot that makes no sense and doesn't make getting to their destination any quicker than parking in a normal/logical position). You just have to deal with it though.

I am assuming you are trained in firefighting and rescue.

Sometimes when I console into a switch someone saavy in an office tells me "You know there is a GUI for that now?"

 

[MartyMcFly3]

I am assuming you are trained in firefighting and rescue.

Sometimes when I console into a switch someone saavy in an office tells me "You know there is a GUI for that now?"

I'd be on the other side of this story but I wouldn't have handled it the same way it was handled. Like I said, just gotta deal with it.

 

[olds]

Maybe the cop had his TIM training and the firefighter didn't.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I didn't see any evidence of the truck being moved after they arrested him. I guess it was just another policy lover who doesn't care if the job gets done as long as they followed policy.

 

[dmcowen674]

firefighter arrested responding to accident

http://www.cbs8.com/story/24637357/...-scene?clienttype=generic&smartdevicecgbypass

So we have both officers and firefighters on A.T. right? Who screwed up here?

With all the stories of Police action gone insane I am not surprised.

A local TV station is doing a multi day report following a class of Police recruits.

I wonder where they will learn to arrest Fireman in that class?

 

[KK]

i hope the officer gets gunned down.

 

[mmntech]

When there's a collision on the highway, fire trucks act as blockers to protect emergency workers. That's why they'll sometimes take the lane out even if the problem is on the shoulder. It's also why they park at an angle, so it deflects anything that may hit it.

Without knowing the full details, this fire fighter may have felt the situation was still unsafe and wanted to keep the lane blocked. If that was the case, the officer had no business doing what he did. All the police do in these situations is direct traffic and investigate the accident, maybe first aid. Fire and EMS handle the bulk of the rescue operation.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Even if lets say the fire truck SHOULD have been moved, arresting the firefighter/detaining him is not going to resolve that so I don't see the point.

Like I said, in every situation I've had where this has happened we've just had to deal with it. If it inconveniences people, so be it. The person in the crash is inconvenienced more.

 

[olds]

Even if lets say the fire truck SHOULD have been moved, arresting the firefighter/detaining him is not going to resolve that so I don't see the point.

Like I said, in every situation I've had where this has happened we've just had to deal with it. If it inconveniences people, so be it. The person in the crash is inconvenienced more.

Have you had the SHRP2 TIM training yet?

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v7BQ_0_sOE

 

[John Connor]

I don't know about anyone else but in case of an emergency, it sure makes it easier for me to get around fire engines to ogle the ensuing emergency scene when they are parked in their properly designated area. I commend the officer for his bravery and sense of duty.

Are you high!?

 

[Iron Woode]

last time I checked, the Firefighters are in charge of the scene at a fire. The police work crowd and traffic control to protect the Firefighters while they are doing their job. The Fire Dept will release the scene when they are sure the fire is out and the scene is no longer a hazard.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Have you had the SHRP2 TIM training yet?

Looked it up. Never heard of it til now and talked to my Sgt who also never heard of it. Just basic traffic management through the academy so don't know if that material was covered in class and we never got the official name of it.

I get why they park the way they do. That's not to say they are perfect on every response. I also don't understand what the officer was trying to accomplish either. If the fire department shuts down the roadway, so be it. We have to shut it down for hours at times for fatal accidents. It's part of our job. We just deal with it.

 

[WelshBloke]

I get why they park the way they do. That's not to say they are perfect on every response. I also don't understand what the officer was trying to accomplish either. If the fire department shuts down the roadway, so be it. We have to shut it down for hours at times for fatal accidents. It's part of our job. We just deal with it.

But you dont get brain dead twats arresting you and making your job more difficult and dangerous than it needs to be.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

But you dont get brain dead twats arresting you and making your job more difficult and dangerous than it needs to be.

I'm not a firefighter. I'm one of the "brain dead twats" as you so elegantly referred people in my occupation as.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm not a firefighter. I'm one of the "brain dead twats" as you so elegantly referred people in my occupation as.

I'm not saying that all police men are brain dead twats, just the ones that would arrest a firefighter who's actively carrying out his duty.

I honestly can't think of any other way to describe them. (well I can, but the terms wouldn't be so flattering)

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Yeah I don't exactly know what he thought he'd accomplish with that.

 

[boomerang]

There's one word that explains it. California.

 

[BikeJunkie]

There are fine cops out there. But there are also a LOT of cops out there who went into law enforcement simply as a means of asserting authority over other people. Someone else in the thread in the nail on the head: many cops cannot psychologically deal with being told no.

How many times have we seen a bad cop do something absolutely idiotic because the cop wouldn't STFU for two seconds and LISTEN to the other party. It's as if as soon as there's any kind of standoff between them and someone else, their #1 priority becomes making sure everyone knows THEY make the rules and call the shots.

Obey and comply NOW, or else.

 

[FallenHero]

http://www.cbs8.com/story/24637357/chp-handcuffs-firefighter-in-dispute-at-crash-scene?clienttype=generic&smartdevicecgbypass

So we have both officers and firefighters on A.T. right? Who screwed up here?

Cop did.

<---Cop

CHP officer is a god damn moron. Who even does this shit?