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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

That's fucked up...pretty much the gov't doesn't want to get involved with the turmoil called this racial will bring.

Pretty much 'we don't want gringos' then stabbing said beloved patriot is racial.

Maybe they thought he was the grinch and it was just a bad translation.
 

Agentbolt

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Jul 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, what type of hispanics are most prevalent in Boston?

Stabby ones?

HA!

Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

Seriously. You want to replace the firefighter with a black guy and replace the mexicans with white guys and "beloved patriot" with the n-word and see what happens

yeap.

sadly this is not the first time or the last. this should be a hate crime.

No, NOTHING should be a hate crime. That's the point. You stab someone, it shouldn't be more or less bad depending on what color their skin is.

The only thing that bugs me about this kind of thing is when people act all surprised that there's racist minorities out there. This attitude that whites have the market cornered on racism is retarded.

 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Ns1dude please

their parents are honest hardworking folk while their kids turn into douchebags and the govt is failed? sounds like they failed themselves
You mis-read me. I said the Mexicans/Latinos I am associated with, not the Latinos living in the hole in Boston.

But you said the ones you associate with act gangster, you only said their parents are good people. Not only that, but you said for the most part.

Touche, I forgot to add, they pretend to be gangster, but that's merely the fashion round here, and they themselves are decent people, from decent families.

Thanks for reminding me.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, what type of hispanics are most prevalent in Boston?

Stabby ones?

HA!

Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

Seriously. You want to replace the firefighter with a black guy and replace the mexicans with white guys and "beloved patriot" with the n-word and see what happens

yeap.

sadly this is not the first time or the last. this should be a hate crime.

No, NOTHING should be a hate crime. That's the point. You stab someone, it shouldn't be more or less bad depending on what color their skin is.

The only thing that bugs me about this kind of thing is when people act all surprised that there's racist minorities out there. This attitude that whites have the market cornered on racism is retarded.

actually i agree. there should not be any hate crimes.

just teh double standard in useing it sucks.
 

Mr. Lennon

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: TehMac
Look, the issue is not against Mexican folk, I know quite a few and play soccer with them here in San Diego. In my school, they like to pretend to be all gangster, but for the most part, their parents are good, decent, ambitious, hard working folk; they're not scum or thugs, rather misled culturally (imo) but they're not mindless homo erectus. These "holes" exist because the government refuses to actually do something, because that would require abolishing welfare, which in turn abolishes votes. These holes have dug themselves.

dude please

their parents are honest hardworking folk while their kids turn into douchebags and the govt is failed? sounds like they failed themselves

They need to build the wall already. Too many damn illegals causing trouble and reaping the benefits of our tax dollars.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, what type of hispanics are most prevalent in Boston?

Stabby ones?

HA!

Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

Seriously. You want to replace the firefighter with a black guy and replace the mexicans with white guys and "beloved patriot" with the n-word and see what happens

yeap.

sadly this is not the first time or the last. this should be a hate crime.

No, NOTHING should be a hate crime. That's the point. You stab someone, it shouldn't be more or less bad depending on what color their skin is.

The only thing that bugs me about this kind of thing is when people act all surprised that there's racist minorities out there. This attitude that whites have the market cornered on racism is retarded.

actually i agree. there should not be any hate crimes.

just teh double standard in useing it sucks.

Killing a black man is not necessarily a hate crime, killing a man because he is black is.

Saying there really isn't hate crimes is ignorant.

The major problem with hate crimes is most crimes have some reason or methology behind them....with hate crimes it could be anyone just because they are a member of a certain group.
 

mrkun

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Jul 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: TehMac
Look, the issue is not against Mexican folk, I know quite a few and play soccer with them here in San Diego.

They never said the guys that stabbed him were Mexican; that's why I was curious.
 

mrkun

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Jul 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
OMG INVADE SPAIN!

:thumbsup:

Do it during siesta for massive damage!!1!11!

Hahaha. Actually, I remember reading that the Spanish government put an end to siestas for government employees within the last few years. Your plan is obsolete.
 

imported_Truenofan

Golden Member
May 6, 2005
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they attacked the guy because he was white. end of story. he was white, and in a mexican neighborhood. its racism and a hate crime. end of story. "we don't want any beloved patriot here" plain and simple, they didn't want a white guy in they're neighborhood and he was attacked because of that.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
OMG INVADE SPAIN!

:thumbsup:

Do it during siesta for massive damage!!1!11!

Hahaha. Actually, I remember reading that the Spanish government put an end to siestas for government employees within the last few years. Your plan is obsolete.

Did this formerly include the Spanish Military? If so: :laugh:
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Killing a black man is not necessarily a hate crime, killing a man because he is black is.

Saying there really isn't hate crimes is ignorant.

The major problem with hate crimes is most crimes have some reason or methology behind them....with hate crimes it could be anyone just because they are a member of a certain group.

So if I murder a man because I don't like the sound of his laugh, that's somehow less arbitrary and odious than if I murder him because I don't like the color of his skin?

"But your honor, that guy was REALLY ANNOYING!" "Oh, fine, two years then. I thought you killed him because he was black."
 

tomywishbone

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Oct 24, 2006
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There's something wrong with Mr. White's story. I don't know what it is, but there's something wrong. Time will tell.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

Way to make judgments without all of the facts. :thumbsup: If Joe White Trash gets in a fight with a black guy who is screwing his wife, and in the process of beating down the black guy he calls him a n!gger, is that a racially-motivated beat down? No, he was motivated by the black dude screwing his wife. The fact that he's a racist and the black dude is black are just icing on the cake.

We don't really know what motivated these Hispanics stabbed the white guy. There are details we don't know. Not that there is any excuse for stabbing someone, but to say it is racially motivated is not a conclusion that I think we can reach with the facts that we have.

beloved patriot may not even be an offensive term where they come from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/beloved patriot
In Central America, the word is not pejorative, merely used to refer to a person from North America
 

mrkun

Platinum Member
Jul 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: mugs

beloved patriot may not even be an offensive term where they come from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/beloved patriot
In Central America, the word is not pejorative, merely used to refer to a person from North America

That's why I asked what types of Hispanics are prevalent in that area of Boston. Mexicans typically use the word "gabacho" rather than "beloved patriot."
 

SlickSnake

Diamond Member
May 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Ns1dude please

their parents are honest hardworking folk while their kids turn into douchebags and the govt is failed? sounds like they failed themselves
You mis-read me. I said the Mexicans/Latinos I am associated with, not the Latinos living in the hole in Boston.

But you said the ones you associate with act gangster, you only said their parents are good people. Not only that, but you said for the most part.

Personally, why do I have the feeling that there was a little more said than what the firefighter let on? I'm not saying the others were justified in any way, but something tells me it wasn't just "I'm here to get a sandwich" as he said. I mean they chased after the guy on foot. Not only that, but why did the guy just go there and not drive off? Was he too stupid to not look to see if they were still following him? We're only getting one side of the story. Again, I'll stress, that it might even be the correct side, so don't act like I'm trashing the firefighter or defending the assaulters.

I believe the story. This is the way these scummy illegals act lately. The local news around here is full of stories about them just randomly beating people up, white, black and asians for no reason, other than a look, maybe. It's very prison gang mentality among the illegals now. Just hope you don't look at one wrong anytime soon, or you will find out it don't matter what you say, or don't say that gets you robbed, beat up, stabbed or shot.
 

SlickSnake

Diamond Member
May 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, what type of hispanics are most prevalent in Boston?

Stabby ones?

HA!

Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any beloved patriot here."

Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.

Interesting....

of couerse not. you can't have hate crimes against whites. that has been proven a few times.

Seriously. You want to replace the firefighter with a black guy and replace the mexicans with white guys and "beloved patriot" with the n-word and see what happens

yeap.

sadly this is not the first time or the last. this should be a hate crime.

No, NOTHING should be a hate crime. That's the point. You stab someone, it shouldn't be more or less bad depending on what color their skin is.

The only thing that bugs me about this kind of thing is when people act all surprised that there's racist minorities out there. This attitude that whites have the market cornered on racism is retarded.

You misunderstand why there are hate crimes. They exist to enforce stiffer penalties than would otherwise be handed down in a court. The idea being if you are full of blind hate, this won't be your first or last visit to court unless they lock you up for a lot longer than if you just did it as a spur of the moment thing, like because you were drunk at a bar and had a random bar fight, for example. Hate law supports the idea that someone who is full of hate would be premeditated about the attack, and looking for any good victim that fits his hate criteria.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
I believe the story. This is the way these scummy illegals act lately. The local news around here is full of stories about them just randomly beating people up, white, black and asians for no reason, other than a look, maybe. It's very prison gang mentality among the illegals now. Just hope you don't look at one wrong anytime soon, or you will find out it don't matter what you say, or don't say that gets you robbed, beat up, stabbed or shot.

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
You misunderstand why there are hate crimes. They exist to enforce stiffer penalties than would otherwise be handed down in a court. The idea being if you are full of blind hate, this won't be your first or last visit to court unless they lock you up for a lot longer than if you just did it as a spur of the moment thing, like because you were drunk at a bar and had a random bar fight, for example. Hate law supports the idea that someone who is full of hate would be premeditated about the attack, and looking for any good victim that fits his hate criteria.

This is what we call "juxtaposition."
 

mobobuff

Lifer
Apr 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: mugs

beloved patriot may not even be an offensive term where they come from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/beloved patriot
In Central America, the word is not pejorative, merely used to refer to a person from North America

That's why I asked what types of Hispanics are prevalent in that area of Boston. Mexicans typically use the word "gabacho" rather than "beloved patriot."

Do either of you think that matters? Do you think semantics plays any important part in the fact that they said "We don't need _______ here." and then chased and stabbed him?

If I hated black people, and saw a black person in a predominately white area of the neighborhood, and said to him "We don't need any African Americans here." and then stabbed him, it wouldn't be a racially motivated attack?
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
I believe the story. This is the way these scummy illegals act lately. The local news around here is full of stories about them just randomly beating people up, white, black and asians for no reason, other than a look, maybe. It's very prison gang mentality among the illegals now. Just hope you don't look at one wrong anytime soon, or you will find out it don't matter what you say, or don't say that gets you robbed, beat up, stabbed or shot.

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
You misunderstand why there are hate crimes. They exist to enforce stiffer penalties than would otherwise be handed down in a court. The idea being if you are full of blind hate, this won't be your first or last visit to court unless they lock you up for a lot longer than if you just did it as a spur of the moment thing, like because you were drunk at a bar and had a random bar fight, for example. Hate law supports the idea that someone who is full of hate would be premeditated about the attack, and looking for any good victim that fits his hate criteria.

This is what we call "juxtaposition."

:thumbsup: Nicely done.
 

SlickSnake

Diamond Member
May 29, 2007
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Reality just burns some peoples giant butts, don't it? Especially to those who are primarily living in the twilight zone of unreality on the internet. When was the last time you went outside and interacted with your invading illegal alien homies? Even the guy defending them says "they like to pretend to be all gangster". Anyone who supports this invasion is either an imbecile, one of them, or a sock puppet for some other tard group that gains stature by supporting them like the NCLR or your local crop picker association.

You better also enjoy the right to criticize them now, since the senate is going to vote on the sedition bill soon, and all your presumed internet rights are going to fly out the window with the rest of the rights you lost in the last 7 years to the fake war on terror. The real terror is already here, and it's crossing the border near you, and has been all along. Taking away rights of those who legally live here and have to tolerate this illegal crap hasn't stopped a single thing. Except freedom.

Senate Bill 1959 to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, what type of hispanics are most prevalent in Boston?
Sounds like Salvadorians and the Mara Salvatrucha better known as MS13.

BTW if this Firefighter is Boston Irish (the majority of Boston's Jakes are) these "Hispanic's" better hope the police get them first though MS 13 is not a group you want to fuck with.
 

911paramedic

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Jan 7, 2002
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How does anybody know what they said if they have a Boston accent?

Where did I paaak maaa caaa? Have you seen maaa caaa?

Seriously, how is this not a hate crime??
 
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