And you're an idiot.
It should be handled as a local tax. Not an a la carte "pay for it if you want service."
The county should not have the option to make it a fee, they should be required to pay for it via property tax income, or set up their own fire department.
The way they are"handling" it, should not at all be legal under any circumstances.
not stupid enough to have my house burn down because i didn't pay a $75 fee
But stupid enough to agree with the redneck mentality of frontier justice.
Your love of genocide.
I'm from Texas where personal responsibility is bred into us from the day we're born. But watching as a man's house is burned to the ground because he did not pay $75 is dumb. It does nothing for the community. Absolutely nothing.No, I agree with personal responsibility, something that you apparently do not.
It should be handled as a local tax. Not an a la carte "pay for it if you want service."
The county should not have the option to make it a fee, they should be required to pay for it via property tax income, or set up their own fire department.
The way they are"handling" it, should not at all be legal under any circumstances.
I'm from Texas where personal responsibility is bred into us from the day we're born. But watching as a man's house is burned to the ground because he did not pay $75 is dumb. It does nothing for the community. Absolutely nothing.
I'm from Texas where personal responsibility is bred into us from the day we're born. But watching as a man's house is burned to the ground because he did not pay $75 is dumb. It does nothing for the community. Absolutely nothing.
You wrote that. You remind me of those animals that have no sense of empathy. They will walk past one of their own that is dying. You are stupid like that.
As was already pointed out., They USED TO respond to every call and charge after the fact. But since that was abused by the douchebags who wouldnt pay up, the practice was stopped.
I agree, the county would have been wise to do that. But apparently the voters felt differently. Do you value democracy or support authoritarian style government?
Fair enough. It seems the whole area is stupid for not just passing a directive to tax the people. Absolutely dumb. Next thing you know, they'll try to privatize the police department.
I have empathy, but I reserve it for matters that deserve it.
On the end of not deserving empathy are greedy douchebags who want all the advantages of living in society, but don't want to chip in to support it. He could have saved his house for a mere $75, but he's too much of a greedy douchebag. Clearly you're a greedy douchebag too, with the level of support you're giving the greedy douchebag.
Not sure about Tennessee law, but wouldn't they have to get voter approval for a new tax? With county budgets all over the country having problems, I doubt that they could just pay for this new service without raising taxes...something they already tried and the taxpayers said, "NO!".
I have no sympathy for the guy. I'm just hostile to the mechanism and the people that support it. You say I hate democracy when I call for a taxation on such a basic service. I just cannot comprehend how someone can say "he deserved it" when a man just lost his home because of $75. That's your home, probably the most expensive item you'll ever purchase. The redneck logic here is beyond banal and reeks of vengeance or tactics the mob would use. Such mechanisms do not belong in a civilized society. Is Tennessee civilized?
Again, do you disagree with democracy and self rule?
I have no sympathy for the guy. Many feel this way about him in this thread.
I'm just hostile to the mechanism and the people that support it. It is a tough pill to swallow. He gambled on his home and lost.
You say I hate democracy when I call for a taxation on such a basic service. This would have to be worked out between the City and County first. The County needs to step in because some people are too stupid to think some times.
I just cannot comprehend how someone can say "he deserved it" when a man just lost his home because of $75. He cared more about not paying that fee until it came up that he needed it. It is just a shame really.
That's your home, probably the most expensive item you'll ever purchase. He neglected that fact when he did not do the smart thing and cover it with fire protection.
The redneck logic here is beyond banal and reeks of vengeance or tactics the mob would use. Sadly, he did not care enough about his own house to pay a $75 fee, why should anyone else care about it either?
Such mechanisms do not belong in a civilized society. The county needs to do a contract with the city and institute a small tax. This incident should kick them into high gear.
Is Tennessee civilized? I live in TN and it is not that bad of a place. This guy just lost on a big gamble unfortunately.
The "red neck logic" you refer to is the abusing the system that fucked it for everyone.
Personally I would have preferred a $500 fee if my house caught fire vs a $75 a year fee I may never use. as long as my house caught fire no more than once per 7 years, I'd come out ahead. But then I'd be pissed at all the jackasses who never paid up (more than half according to the link above) who caused that practice to stop.
Big picture, I agree with democracy and personal responsibility.
However, I also believe that fire and police service should be guaranteed for every part of the country that has the infrastructure to support it. And, that these services should be paid for via property taxes.
Otherwise, there's too much risk involved where a stupid person not paying for his share of things will ruin things for others.
In a perfect world, everybody would vote to have a fire department, or, to pay whatever $$$ is needed for the contract for the nearest department in their taxes. But, it's not a perfect world, there are many idiots, and, I don't want my house to catch on fire because my neighbor doesn't pay his "Fire fee" and then his house catches on fire and it spreads, that's just stupid.
I know. But wiser heads should've prevailed and this should've been a tax.
Do you think a government that mandates coverage for fires in an area that already has a fire department is authoritarian style?
There are some services which are necessary for the common good and therefore should automatically be assumed for any area with an infrastructure.
I believe fire is one of them.
I do not believe there is a valid alternative to including fire service in the property tax.
Generally, I value democracy without authoritarianism, but, there's a big grey area in between authoritarianism and anarchy, and I don't want to get too close to either side...
That's very sound and you would probably opt to never live in that town. All good.
That being said, if OTHER people had a different way of thought than yours, do you feel it's necessary to impose what you believe in on to others?