Firefighters let a home burn down because $75 fee wasn't paid!

[Zorkorist]

You are cross-subjecting.

If you were an illegal, your house would burn, they would try to save whoever they could, and you would then be arrested and deported.

If you are trying to imply that they would somehow be treated differently because you believe our system caters to them you are wrong. The only thing in that scenario our government caters to are insurance companies.

Try to keep your rants a bit more linear. If you bring in too many other subjects you are opening yourself up to more innacuracies that will hurt whatever position you take.

BTW, you do not have to KowTow to anything, really. These guys are not taxed for fire protection, it is their "god given" option, a scenario that MANY tea Party supporters are now crying for.

Except, as you have demonstrated, when that "freedom" could somehow adversely effect their own lives. Then it is a God Given Right.

I'm sorry I did the illegal alien thing, I was frustrated.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

I can't tell if you're really that dense or if you're arguing to argue. Would you feel better if the city just decided to cut off all services - paid for or not - to everyone outside the city? That would certainly solve all of this. Then you'd have a situation where the county simply doesn't have a fire department and the people who live there are on their own. No more fee to pay and no fire dept to just stand there and watch the place burn.

Yes I would feel better.

A City, funds the Fire Department via taxes, etc., on EVERYONE in that City.

To then PRETEND that they care about $75 from someone outside the City, or to PRETEND that they give a SHIT about somebody outside the CITY, is only illustrated by the fact that they don't care, and are happy to see the house burn down.

If they don't care about people outside the city, they should have no authority to ride with sirens on, outside the city, or stop me from outside the city. The county should have been in charge here, and collecting $, and allocating them as needed.

A city fire department, versus one man, and the city fire department wins, obv.

-John

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yes I would feel better.

A City, funds the Fire Department via taxes, etc., on EVERYONE in that City.

To then PRETEND that they care about $75 from someone outside the City, or to PRETEND that they give a SHIT about somebody outside the CITY, is only illustrated by the fact that they don't care, and are happy to see the house burn down.

If they don't care about peopkle outside the city, and have no authority to ride with sirens on, outside the city, or can't stop me from outside the city, then they have no business outside the city. The county should have been in charge here, and collecting $, and allocating them as needed.

A city fire department, versus one man, and the city fire department wins, obv.

-John

Based on this ignorant idea, the neighbor's house would have burnt down also as the County gov't for over 20 years has decided not to have a fire dept.

 

[Zorkorist]

That's life.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

But I also doubt it. How close, in your experience, are houses in the "country?"

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

It's a fucking wildfire!

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

This guy should have been executed years ago for not paying $75 for fire protection!

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Based on this ignorant idea, the neighbor's house would have burnt down also as the County gov't for over 20 years has decided not to have a fire dept.

The County could pay a small payment to the City for Fire Protection services.

Otherwise, it's rule or be ruled, and in that case any individual citizen is going to lose to the city. Period.

And, he did.

-John

 

[Zargon]

But I also doubt it. How close, in your experience, are houses in the "country?"

-John

there are tons of small subdivisions all over my rural area that are built like neighborhoods inside a city


your black and white attitude is a bastion of small mindedness.

its for people who are too stupid or lazy to take care of themself and want to be plainly told how it is.

why should that neighbor not get fire service because the guy next door forgets to pay the bill?

 

[Zorkorist]

He got Fire Service...

They all stood around and watched his neighbor's house burn down.

-John

 

[Capt Caveman]

But I also doubt it. How close, in your experience, are houses in the "country?"

-John

Again you're wrong. Did you even read any of the news stories? If you did, you wouldn't have made the majority of your posts here.

 

[Zorkorist]

The question is, why did the person that didn't pay his $75, NOT get fire service.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Again you're wrong. Did you even read any of the news stories? If you did, you wouldn't have made the majority of your posts here.

I did read it. It was days ago, however.

-John

 

[fire400]

Heard about this on the radio. He should have "remembered" to pay his fire insurance. That's essentially what this is. It's not required, and it's a service provided by another city.

However, they should have the ability to provide some service at the actual cost. Like they said on the radio, if it cost a $1000 then send him a bill for $1000.

I'm sure he would have paid $10,000 with monthly installments to reach the grand total.

If you asked me, $10K is a lot more than a measely, forgotten $75 fee?

Had any indivitual people died inside inside of the burning of the house, I'm sure the United States would respond with extreme grief, and with the President taking some kind of national action.

 

[Zargon]

The question is, why did the person that didn't pay his $75, NOT get fire service.

-John

because he didnt pay

thats how it works.

its not rocket science. quit trolling by repeatedly posting the same thing over and over


I'm sure its damn fun to count the actual cost on fighting a fire, not to mention the cost of paying someone to do the accounting.

depreciation on all the equipment, the cost of the manpower, the insurance, materials ETC ETC.

yeah black and white sounds better, everyone else in the county is screwed over because this dude cant remember to write a check

 

[Zorkorist]

I don't know where you have been, but people in this country don't pay for services, we just incur more debt.

There isn't much more basic a right in this country, than fire protection.

As soon as our Government gives up the responsibility of Fire Protection, they lose all their other Privledges.

I will give this man Fire Protection for $65/month.

Do I get to issue tickets, drive with lights and sirens flashing, collect his $65 via the IRS?

-John

 

[alkemyst]

I don't know where you have been, but people in this country don't pay for services, we just incur more debt.

There isn't much more basic a right in this country, than fire protection.

As soon as our Government gives up the responsibility of Fire Protection, they lose all their other Privledges.

I will give this man Fire Protection for $65/month.

Do I get to issue tickets, drive with lights and sirens flashing, collect his $65 via the IRS?

-John

What?

I really hope you have never been to college.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I'm sure its damn fun to count the actual cost on fighting a fire, not to mention the cost of paying someone to do the accounting.

Then don't mention it....


(I couldn't resist)

 

[PimpJuice]

9:00pm

That's life.

-John

9:01pm

But I also doubt it. How close, in your experience, are houses in the "country?"

-John

9:02pm

It's a fucking wildfire!

-John

9:03pm

This guy should have been executed years ago for not paying $75 for fire protection!

-John

9:07pm

The County could pay a small payment to the City for Fire Protection services.

Otherwise, it's rule or be ruled, and in that case any individual citizen is going to lose to the city. Period.

And, he did.

-John

9:11pm

there are tons of small subdivisions all over my rural area that are built like neighborhoods inside a city


your black and white attitude is a bastion of small mindedness.

its for people who are too stupid or lazy to take care of themself and want to be plainly told how it is.

why should that neighbor not get fire service because the guy next door forgets to pay the bill?

9:17pm

He got Fire Service...

They all stood around and watched his neighbor's house burn down.

-John

Wow 7 posts in a row.....you really want to be a lifer don't you? Literally, half of all posts in this thread are from you.

Hey retard, learn how to use the fucking edit button.

You might be the first person I need to learn to use the ignore feature for. I'm confident I won't miss your moronic babble.

 

[IcePickFreak]

I don't know where you have been, but people in this country don't pay for services, we just incur more debt.

There isn't much more basic a right in this country, than fire protection.

As soon as our Government gives up the responsibility of Fire Protection, they lose all their other Privledges.

I will give this man Fire Protection for $65/month.

Do I get to issue tickets, drive with lights and sirens flashing, collect his $65 via the IRS?

-John

Ever read up on history much? Go check out how great the fire departments in New York operated back in the 1800's. Maybe you should go start a volunteer fire department out in this county for these people since this is apparently a great american travesty to you.

And I'm not sure if you just post random shit to this thread at certain intervals or you're actually replying to someone when you have 5+ posts in a row with no quote on who or what your talking to/about.

 

[Ninjahedge]

IPF, all he needed to watch was Gangs of New York.......

 

[BeauJangles]

I don't know where you have been, but people in this country don't pay for services, we just incur more debt.

There isn't much more basic a right in this country, than fire protection.

As soon as our Government gives up the responsibility of Fire Protection, they lose all their other Privledges.

I will give this man Fire Protection for $65/month.

Do I get to issue tickets, drive with lights and sirens flashing, collect his $65 via the IRS?

-John

You should take your argument up with the county, they're the ones that don't offer their own fire protection.

 

[kami333]

You should take your argument up with the county, they're the ones that don't offer their own fire protection.

And from what I've read (don't know how accurate it is) they did consider it last year, instead of having individuals subscribe they would have raised property taxes by $1.20 or so and cover everyone automatically. It didn't pass.

 

[a123456]

And from what I've read (don't know how accurate it is) they did consider it last year, instead of having individuals subscribe they would have raised property taxes by $1.20 or so and cover everyone automatically. It didn't pass.

Of course it didn't pass. In the area where the guy lived and other very sparsely populated rural regions, it's common not to have a fire department because the financial cost for doing so is huge per capita. There's huge overhead costs associated with having a fire department (e.g. trucks, training, employees, maintenance, etc.). The 75/year offered by the city is relatively low since they really only need to cover the variable costs with that fee to serve the extra area. Even then, it was probably a losing proposition enacted by some concerned citizens, not for financial gain.

You have to cover a giant area for just a few houses. The tax burden per family is going to be relatively large so most citizens are going to vote against it. It's the same mentality about why this guy didn't pay the annual fee. Most people think a fire will never happen to them and want to save some short-term money, no matter how little or great the actual tax/fee is.

 

[Zorkorist]

That absolutely doesn't excuse the fact that the Fire Department was on the scene and watched the house burn down.

Can this same county, vote to not let police vehicles and fire vehicles pass through?

No they can't.

So, on the one hand, they are lucky to have police and fire service, and on the other hand they are forced to have police and fire service, and on the other hand, the police and fire department will not protect them.

-John