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Jeff7

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Firefox3 problem:

These Reply windows used to open up rather small by comparison to the rest of the screen.

Firefox crashed on me again after I clicked the Back button here on the forums. (RC1 crashes about 5x a day for me.)
Now the Reply windows always open up maximized. How do I make them go back to normal?

 
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I don't like the new address bar and would like to see the option of turning it off, IE 6,7 and the Beta of 8 have this option. But in a e-mail from Mozilla it dose not seem like it's going to happen.
Feedback from users and press have been overwhelmingly positive to date. There is a small but very vocal group of people who don?t like the change (comments have historically been a poor sample set, people don?t tend to praise in the same proportion as those who are complaining).
As for why can?t we just add a pref, well, that is best explained as a cost/benefit case. Adding the old behaviour as a supported option means implementing a new and separate codepath, and maintaining testing and maintenance coverage for two distinct operating modes. That is anything but a low cost option, and only makes sense if we believe that users will be unable to adapt to what we believe is a better behaviour.
Because as the last blurb from the e-mail states, WE BELIEVE IT IS A BETTER BEHAVIOUR.? My translation of what Mozilla has said is, We don't like or listen to negative feedback, It's to expensive to add, People complain too much and most impressive is, We will tell you what you like, we know better and I thought Microsoft was an Elitist company
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: 1921Photoelectric
I don't like the new address bar and would like to see the option of turning it off, IE 6,7 and the Beta of 8 have this option. But in a e-mail from Mozilla it dose not seem like it's going to happen.
Feedback from users and press have been overwhelmingly positive to date. There is a small but very vocal group of people who don?t like the change (comments have historically been a poor sample set, people don?t tend to praise in the same proportion as those who are complaining).
As for why can?t we just add a pref, well, that is best explained as a cost/benefit case. Adding the old behaviour as a supported option means implementing a new and separate codepath, and maintaining testing and maintenance coverage for two distinct operating modes. That is anything but a low cost option, and only makes sense if we believe that users will be unable to adapt to what we believe is a better behaviour.
Because as the last blurb from the e-mail states, WE BELIEVE IT IS A BETTER BEHAVIOUR.? My translation of what Mozilla has said is, We don't like or listen to negative feedback, It's to expensive to add, People complain too much and most impressive is, We will tell you what you like, we know better and I thought Microsoft was an Elitist company

The way I read that is more people like it than don't, and coding a preference adds too much to the development. In any case, the final product should conform to their vision of how it should work. As a consumer you either agree and use it, or disagree and use a different product. Alternatively you can recode Firefox so it works exactly as you want it to.
 

Jeff7

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Is there any way to delete items from the address bar?
I've highlighted each entry and pressed Delete or Shift+Delete. No go. Using the Ctrl+Shift+Del window also doesn't do it.


Also, RC2 is out.

Link

 

MmmSkyscraper

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Is there any way to delete items from the address bar?
I've highlighted each entry and pressed Delete or Shift+Delete. No go. Using the Ctrl+Shift+Del window also doesn't do it.

If I drop the address bar down, highlight an item and press Delete (the one next to Insert), the highlighted item is deleted.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: rxblitzrx
What's new in RC2? Can you just install RC2 over RC1, cleanly?

I assume it's mainly bug fixes.

Both of my installations prompted me to update automatically with a small notifier in the bottom right corner.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Is there any way to delete items from the address bar?
I've highlighted each entry and pressed Delete or Shift+Delete. No go. Using the Ctrl+Shift+Del window also doesn't do it.

If I drop the address bar down, highlight an item and press Delete (the one next to Insert), the highlighted item is deleted.
I said I tried that already. You even quoted me saying I tried it.

It gets rid of them for only as long as the drop-down menu is there.

For example, if I press "w" it will bring up www.google.com.
Highlight, and press Delete. It's gone.
Now press "w" again. Bam, www.google.com is there again.

Delete doesn't do it. It did in FF2, but not anymore.

 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
I said I tried that already. You even quoted me saying I tried it.

It gets rid of them for only as long as the drop-down menu is there.

I wasn't sure if you were referring to Backspace.

The links are permanently deleted for me. Seems like this version of FF really doesn't like people called Jeff cos you're not having much luck
 

Jeff7

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If I say Backspace or Delete, that's specifically what I mean. I tend to be precise in what I say, at least when such precision would be accurate. For example, not that I said I "tend" to be precise. I'm leaving an allowance for those times when I'm not precise, which is not often.

Well at least Ikariam or ATOT hasn't crashed on me since I got RC2.


I seem to be good at pushing software to the breaking point.

 

Jeff7

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Yay, I just crashed RC2 for the first time!

How? I was reading a thread in OT, not even with any pages loading, not even moving the mouse, and it crashed.


I think I'm gunning for the #1 spot on their automatic crash-reporting server.:laugh:

 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
I think I'm gunning for the #1 spot on their automatic crash-reporting server.:laugh:

LOL, you should box up your machine and send it to Mozilla so they can poke and prod it like Ewoks.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Jeff7
I think I'm gunning for the #1 spot on their automatic crash-reporting server.:laugh:

LOL, you should box up your machine and send it to Mozilla so they can poke and prod it like Ewoks.
Can't they just send R2 out to interface with it directly?


And that SQLite Manager thing you suggested did the trick about clearing out the persistent history. There are a bunch of .sqlite files in the Mozilla folder in Application Data. Two of them were much larger than the others, and one of them had history data in there that looked like it was imported in from FF2.

Awesome Bar. Yeah....not so much, actually.


Huh, and apparently Firefox no longer stores bookmarks in the Bookmarks.html folder. They're all just stashed right in the SQLite files - it seems I just wiped out all of my bookmarks, along with the AwesomeBar contents. Dandy.

Edit: Ah, excellent, it looks like the bookmark manager window has an "Import and Backup" option that allows restoration of older versions of the bookmark listing.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: intogamer
Firefox Beta 3 Release Candidate 3 is just out

Only 1 change for the OS X build, however. There are no changes between RC2 and RC3 for Windows and Linux users.

My guess is that RC3 will end up being the final version. Mozilla announced that they intend to "ship" Firefox 3 on 6/17.
 

Dicko

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Feb 21, 2003
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Been using firefox 3 since the first Release Candidate w/- no problems at all just miss a few of the add-ons i had w/- firefox 2
 
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