FireFox 3.5 is slow and leaky for me

[Dorkenstein]

Ah, that sounds about right. Is this still the case?

 

[Inst]

My suggestion is to use Opera; while Opera is generally inferior to Firefox (speed and the fact that Opera insists on being solely standards compliant, as opposed to running IE emulation), it works quite well on low-ram / low-resource systems.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Inst
My suggestion is to use Opera; while Opera is generally inferior to Firefox (speed and the fact that Opera insists on being solely standards compliant, as opposed to running IE emulation), it works quite well on low-ram / low-resource systems.

What if you don't want to change browsers though? Then what?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What I am disappointed about with the new FF is the save session/session fix. I usually will have a few or more tabs open and when I want to save all the tabs/pages for the next time I open FF, Save Session/Session Fix doesn't work

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: nordloewelabs

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea tabs are excellent. esp with mouse gestures (allinonegestures)
spawning new tabs in the background during browsing esp during searching for stuff is far easier than bringing up tons of windows.

All In One Gestures, AdBlock, FlashBlock and NoScript are, in my opinion, Firefox's "killer apps"! i just cant live without these.

i thought gestures didn't work in 3.5

 

[pcslookout]

Even more proof about this memory leak and how it is part of the firefox design

 

[pcslookout]

Great write up of someone who tested the memory leak problem and how real it is

 

[evident]

for the last time just use opera

 

[0roo0roo]

meh those are just forum/blog posts. pretty far from explaining problems in the code.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: nordloewelabs

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea tabs are excellent. esp with mouse gestures (allinonegestures)
spawning new tabs in the background during browsing esp during searching for stuff is far easier than bringing up tons of windows.

All In One Gestures, AdBlock, FlashBlock and NoScript are, in my opinion, Firefox's "killer apps"! i just cant live without these.

i thought gestures didn't work in 3.5

work fine for me.
sometimes you have to use the beta version on the plugin authors main site or forums when a brand spankin new version of firefox comes out. happens a lot with tabsmixplus.

gestures works fine with 3.5 now without fuss

 

[Modelworks]

I went with chrome + ad muncher.
Works great

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: evident
for the last time just use opera

I am just hate giving up because I love greasemonkey scripts so much!

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I went with chrome + ad muncher.
Works great

Chrome is nice but I hate the auto updater.

 

[LuDaCriS66]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I went with chrome + ad muncher.
Works great

Chrome is nice but I hate the auto updater.

Could also give SRware Iron a try. It's a build off Chromium but with the privacy issues of Chrome removed and the auto-upater removed.

Also has an adblock.ini file you can edit to use as an adblocker. You can grab pre-defined filters if you google for "fanboy's adblock"

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: LuDaCriS66

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I went with chrome + ad muncher.
Works great

Chrome is nice but I hate the auto updater.

Could also give SRware Iron a try. It's a build off Chromium but with the privacy issues of Chrome removed and the auto-upater removed.

Also has an adblock.ini file you can edit to use as an adblocker. You can grab pre-defined filters if you google for "fanboy's adblock"

Yep thanks! I just wish I could fix firefox. Would do just about anything to be able to use firefox again.

Guess my only solution is to use firefox as a secondary browser for the websites I absolutely need those greasemonkey scripts for. That way no more than maybe 5 tabs are open in firefox so not to much memory usage. Plus it won't ever stay open for longer than 12 hours. Sucks to have to do this but oh well I guess. Will must plenty of add ons as well but what are you going to do you know ? Been looking for a fix for 10 months now.

 

[Engineer]

3.5.3 BETA out. I would "assume" 3.5.3 would follow pretty quickly.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Engineer
3.5.3 BETA out. I would "assume" 3.5.3 would follow pretty quickly.

Thanks I doubt Mozilla will ever fix this issue. It has been around for a very long time. The problem is some people say it is flash, others add ons, and some firefox. No one really knows for sure. I still think it is firefox sense going to youtube then closing it frees up most of the memory it took so I think flash has finally been fixed. The problem is when having like 10 to 20 websites open then closing them all. You only get a little bit of that memory back that all those websites used and depending on how demanding they were depends on what your memory usage is after closing them all. Most of the time when closing them all and leaving one blank tab open my firefox is still using well over 200 to 250 MB of ram. Where if I restart firefox with that one blank tab instead it is only using 30 to 40 MB of ram. This is a huge problem. Like I said before I don't care how much ram firefox uses just don't slow down my whole system after a while when using it. This is what I hate. Once firefox gets over 500 MB + it really starts to slow down. Then at 1 GB + it just about unusable and crashes sooner or later. I know one solution is to restart Firefox often but I shouldn't have to do that.

 

[MrChad]

It's not really a memory "leak" if the memory is freed when the program closes.

This article has good information on tweaks / tips for memory usage.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: MrChad
It's not really a memory "leak" if the memory is freed when the program closes.

This article has good information on tweaks / tips for memory usage.

I seen and read that page well over 1000 times. How is it not a memory leak when closing the website tabs does not free up all the memory? I know closing the program does but why do I have to restart firefox so often just to get all that memory back ? Makes no sense. Don't want it to work like that. I want to be able to keep my browser open 24/7. Have 8 GB of ram want to be able to use it.

 

[pcslookout]

Trying a whole new approach to fix this memory leak once and for all. Doubt it will work though. Still really want to use Firefox as my default browser.

 

[0roo0roo]

the way i've eheard it is that its memory fragmentation, not leak.
ie and chrome get around this by having each tab as a separate process. that being said that method has its own overhead.

 

[Tequila]

I finally gave Chrome a try and really liking it so far. It FF doesn't improve in the next patch or two then I don't see a point in using it anymore. It's just absurd now how much it crashes playing any kind of video. This is on a very stable machine btw.

 

[lifeobry]

just updated to 3.5.2 from 3.014 or something. I CAN FEEL THE SPEED

 

[pcslookout]

Wow this is difficult. I can't shake firefox off as my main browser. Don't think I will ever give up on finding a fix because there has to be someway somehow. Quite determined to find a fix. I still want to use it as my primary browser.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: pcslookout
Wow this is difficult. I can't shake firefox off as my main browser. Don't think I will ever give up on finding a fix because there has to be someway somehow. Quite determined to find a fix. I still want to use it as my primary browser.

Look around. There may be support groups out there dealing with this dependency.

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