firefox 4 beta 7 released

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pcslookout

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Firefox Beta 6 and the latest Minefield nightly build feel very fast! As fast as IE9, Chrome, and Opera 10.62. Maybe I just can't notice the difference though? I can't between Firefox Beta 6 and the latest Minefield nightly build pre beta 7.

Surprised how much faster it is but hoping it stays this way or gets faster! Excited to see how fast it is once November comes around with the final version of Firefox 4!
 

pcslookout

Lifer
Mar 18, 2007
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Does anyone know how to turn off the semi transparent menu bar of Firefox 4? Firefox 3 doesn't have this and it's difficult to read the menu bar in FF4. I don't want a new theme, simply turn this off.

Is this what you want ?

 

VirtualLarry

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newest minefield has a bad crash bug when you visit any site, including going to the add-ons page.
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
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some info posted on when beta 7 will be released -


Hi,

Progress continues on the beta 7 blocker list:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2:7

Of those 11 bugs, 2 are fixed on tracemonkey, 2 are awaiting checkin, 3 are tracking a single issue (JSD & Firebug), and 2 are tracking items. That leaves only two items (a common crash in @ JSString::flatten() and partial incompatibility with the JetPack SDK) to be resolved, and progress is being made. Any help on those remaining two issues would be greatly appreciated.

Once we're done with these blockers, we will be in a position to ship Firefox 4 Beta 7. At that point, we will need to decide whether or not to create builds from the Beta 7 "relbranch" we created on October 6th, as opposed to simply shipping a release based off of mozilla-central.

// The Beta 7 Relbranch

On October 6th we created the GECKO20b7pre_20101006_RELBRANCH and reduced the checkin restrictions on mozilla-central in order to allow progress to continue on blocker work. At that time we were waiting for the JS "compartments" changes to land, and believed that:

- the only changes to be landed on the beta 7 relbranch would be related to these JS changes,
- nightly testing on mozilla-central could act as a proxy for those JS changes

In fact, the JS "compartments" changes have yet to land on this relbranch (though some of the regression fixes required by that work have landed there!). Some additional items have landed, mostly string changes in preparation for string freeze, as well as some small UI tweaks (the new progress indicators) and API changes.

Prior to branch, while the tree was closed, the QA team tested the changes from the 400+ blockers fixed to that point, and declared the nightly builds stable enough for release. If we wanted to ship off the Beta 7 relbranch, we would need to:

- merge the JS "compartment" changes and regression fixes,
- verify that all b7 blockers had landed in that codebase,
- generate builds, run some basic functional tests (or full smoketests if QA decides them to be necessary) and issue a release.

// Trunk (mozilla-central)

Since the October 6th branch point, fixes for over 300 beta8+, betaN+ and final+ blocker bugs have landed on mozilla-central:

http://is.gd/giRLI

These changes have not gone through the same rigorous QA testing, and would need additional time to stabilize prior to release. Additionally, the stability metrics for mozilla-central are still slightly worse than they were before the branch point. The majority of this instability is believed, however, to be due to the JS compartments changes, and so we'd expect to see it in builds generated from either mozilla-central or the Beta 7 relbranch.

If we wanted to ship off mozilla-central, we would need to:

- check recent changes for regressions and newly introduced instability,
- back out or resolve outstanding work to stabilize the trunk,
- generate builds (numbered 4.0b7, trunk would remain 4.0b8pre) run full QA smoketests and issue a release

// Decision time!

There are pros and cons to building Beta 7 from either source, but the key issue is to resolve the outstanding Beta 7 blockers. JagerMonkey is incomplete without the JS compartments work, and so our next milestone must include that set of changes. We can discuss the merits of the approaches at tomorrow's development meeting, taking place at 11am PT. At this point my recommendation is still to ship from the relbranch in order to limit the amount of code change that goes out in a milestone, but I can see rationale on either side.

Looking forward to a discussion tomorrow.

cheers,
mike
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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beta 6 runs great for me, does all i want very quickly. they released 2 updates of version 3 today also
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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The GECKO20b7_20101104_RELBRANCH has been cut. FIREFOX_4_0b7_BUILD1 and FIREFOX_4_0b7_RELEASE has been tagged. This suggests that builds are (or soon will be) in progress, and we'll see a release in a day or two.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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A beta of a beta? :^D

I think I'll wait until beta 6 officially updates. I only have so much room for browsers on my machine. I am curious to hear what you think of it though.
 

pcslookout

Lifer
Mar 18, 2007
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A beta of a beta? :^D

I think I'll wait until beta 6 officially updates. I only have so much room for browsers on my machine. I am curious to hear what you think of it though.

Yeah that is crazy lol. I am running all my applications in virtualization now. Much easier that way to try more than one different version of the same program, not having any conflicts, no unnecessary registry settings left over, etc. Seems much better than any VM. Better than sandboxie as well some because you don't have to install a application to try it anymore. Just copy and paste. If you like it great if you don't just hit delete and it is gone! Can't be much easier than that.
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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from what the testers say it is a lot faster than beta 6, i had some troubles with it though so i uninstalled it and went back to 6. the menus were all whited out for some reason.
 

pcslookout

Lifer
Mar 18, 2007
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I have that problem in beta6. I was hoping 7 would fix it :^(

Oh that is only a lag/performance problem with Firefox. I seen it before too.

When a program lags or performs badly that white out of stuff on a program happens. I thought everyone knew this.
 

hclarkjr

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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i just started reading there recently looks like beta 7 will be out officially Wednesday from what they are saying there
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Oh that is only a lag/performance problem with Firefox. I seen it before too.

When a program lags or performs badly that white out of stuff on a program happens. I thought everyone knew this.

I don't understand what you're saying here. My addon list is completely blank, and I'm not hitting any performance limitations on my machine. The day Firefox requires more than 8gb of ram, and 3ghz of C2D is the day I switch to Opera :^D
 

pcslookout

Lifer
Mar 18, 2007
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I don't understand what you're saying here. My addon list is completely blank, and I'm not hitting any performance limitations on my machine. The day Firefox requires more than 8gb of ram, and 3ghz of C2D is the day I switch to Opera :^D

Remember it is a beta there is bound to be performance problems. There still that dreaded flash issue where when you scroll while watching a video on youtube it messes up the video while it is playing.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
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What I'm saying though is everything's silky smooth, but my addon menu is a white blank page. I don't think that blankness is connected to performance.
 
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