Firefox 57 Released

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ao_ika_red

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It feels faster, even on my super-old laptop. The only thing that I have to miss is DownThemAll ext. Any suggestions of worthy replacement of it?
 
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Chiefcrowe

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Sep 15, 2008
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Enjoying it so far... huge performance boost!! The new Cookie Autodelete addon seems promising.
 

stockwiz

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I still get times where it randomly slows down and locks up. When it does it, if I go to the task manager I find it's using 100% of the GPU when I try to scroll down the frozen page. Kind of frustrating that I end up going back to Chrome. Now it could be one of my extensions I will admit so I could do some testing to narrow it down. I had to uninstall an extension on Chrome for the same reason.

Also it still doesn't go back instantly when I push the back button like Chrome. Hopefully they work on that one. I don't need the page refreshed every time I press "back" ... just load the previous page from cache.
 

Chiefcrowe

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Maybe it's a driver or hardware acceleration setting for the GPU issue as well if it's not extensions?

I think it depends on which site. I did a little testing and some sites it does go back instantly but on more interactive or complex sites it has to reload.


I still get times where it randomly slows down and locks up. When it does it, if I go to the task manager I find it's using 100% of the GPU when I try to scroll down the frozen page. Kind of frustrating that I end up going back to Chrome. Now it could be one of my extensions I will admit so I could do some testing to narrow it down. I had to uninstall an extension on Chrome for the same reason.

Also it still doesn't go back instantly when I push the back button like Chrome. Hopefully they work on that one. I don't need the page refreshed every time I press "back" ... just load the previous page from cache.
 

EXCellR8

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I'm digging the new look; I haven't encountered any issues but I've never been one to use extensions.
 

lxskllr

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I'm digging it on xubuntu. Android still sucks. I like the look, but it's still crashy. Android is supposed to better by V60
 

Blazer7

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Most of my add-ons are not working so I’m gonna take my time before moving away from FF56. At some point I will have to move, and that does not necessarily mean that I will be going with FF57. High customization is what made me use FF in the first place and for the time being FF57 falls short.

Here is a link to Google Doc that has a list of popular addons and if they are ported or not

With so many add-ons going the way of the dodo, many of the developers may jump ship and this won’t help either. The high level of customization and abundance of add-ons was always a field where FF shined and this is taking a hit right now.

I’m not saying that FF57 is all bad. The speed bump is definitely a good thing but I feel that the whole release was not as “clean” as it should have been. With news of the changes that FF57 would bring starting months ago, the unavailability of necessary APIs for devs to port their add-ons is not how things should be.

IMHO such a major change should have followed an ESR. If FF56 was an ESR that would have bought users and devs more time to adjust.
 
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Carfax83

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Tried Firefox Quantum and it's a huge improvement over its predecessors. After using it for about 10 minutes, I'd rank it on par with Chrome now, but still behind Edge on CFU when it comes to how quickly webpages are rendered and scrolling speed/smoothness.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Firefox 57 squashed my addons. Okay, but the big deal for me was Stylish. The update deleted all my data for that addon. Such as the custom CSS I was using for this forum that I didn't make recent backups of. Probably some changes that I haven't remembered to re-write yet. Shame, that.
 

ViRGE

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Heh, The Book of Mozilla has finally been updated after 4 years.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/book/

The Beast adopted new raiment and studied the ways of Time and Space and Light and the Flow of energy through the Universe. From its studies, the Beast fashioned new structures from oxidised metal and proclaimed their glories. And the Beast’s followers rejoiced, finding renewed purpose in these teachings.

from The Book of Mozilla, 11:14

Firefox 57 squashed my addons. Okay, but the big deal for me was Stylish. The update deleted all my data for that addon. Such as the custom CSS I was using for this forum that I didn't make recent backups of. Probably some changes that I haven't remembered to re-write yet. Shame, that.
Are you sure it has actually been deleted? Stylish shouldn't be deleting old scripts. Rather they have to be manually re-imported due to how security works on WebExts.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Lovely.
- Touchscreen functionality is reduced. Before, I could touch and drag an element or link left/right to grab it, then drag it to the top to make a new tab. Not anymore. All dragging now scrolls the page. I have to use a stylus to get that same functionality.
(Related to that: An update to Win10 about a year ago nerfed the ability to touch-and-hold to generate a right-click action. After that update, any touch greater than a few dozen milliseconds is registered by the OS as a touch-and-hold, regardless of the speed slider's setting in the touch configuration options window. So, virtually every touch is registered as an instant right-click. That of course also means that getting the precise timing for double-clicking is quite difficult, so I can't double-click reliably, and I had to disable right-click by touch.)
- About 75% of the addons I used are now nonfunctional, and a good portion of those will stay dead.
Classic Theme Restorer. Configuration Mania. Copy Plain Text. Image Zoom. Link Ninja. FireFTP. Find Dictionary.
Tab Mix Plus might at least be remade eventually.

But hey, Firefox is sure snappy now. Not nearly as productive or versatile in general because of the mass grave of addons, but fast.
It's like they chopped off their arms at the elbows to reduce mass and allow themselves to run faster. I'm hoping they don't bleed to death first.
I am glad they got it through their heads that, yes, 64-bit and multi-thread are indeed things a web browser needs, but.....wow, I just hope Firefox survives this transition. The addon world is starting from square one.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Firefox 57 squashed my addons. Okay, but the big deal for me was Stylish. The update deleted all my data for that addon. Such as the custom CSS I was using for this forum that I didn't make recent backups of. Probably some changes that I haven't remembered to re-write yet. Shame, that.
Try Stylus for restyling. Stylish has begun some questionable anti user practices. You should be able to retrieve your old tweaks from the profile folder, but I couldn't say exactly where. Poke around, and see if something looks right.
 

Dufus

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Sep 20, 2010
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On my laptop with Optimus and W8.1, 57 was about as fast as a tortoise on crutches. Painfully slow and heaps of adverts that I never got before thanks to the add-ons. One good thing I'll say about it though was that re-installing 56 was a breeze.
 
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