Firefox + AdBlock could be a thing of the past...

[microAmp]

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/

If you have FF + AdBlock go to this site... IE and maybe Opera users need not apply as it should work for you.

Found this site looking for information about DLP and was suprised the site said I had to turn off AdBlock to view their site. No worries, I'll never view that site now

 

[BlueWeasel]

Strange, I'm using FF and Adblock (with the latest Filterset.G updates) and the site works fine for me.

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Strange, I'm using FF and Adblock (with the latest Filterset.G updates) and the site works fine for me.

Ditto.

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Strange, I'm using FF and Adblock (with the latest Filterset.G updates) and the site works fine for me.

huh... I have Filterser G and using AdBlock Plus. Maybe that is the difference? Odd...


Just to show what I'm seeing.
noWorkieForMe.GIF

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: microAmp

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Strange, I'm using FF and Adblock (with the latest Filterset.G updates) and the site works fine for me.

huh... I have Filterser G and using AdBlock Plus. Maybe that is the difference? Odd...


Just to show what I'm seeing.
noWorkieForMe.GIF

That must be the difference...I'm not using Adblock Plus, just AB v0.5.3.042

 

[xcript]

I just switched to Adblock Plus 0.5.11.2 and can still view the site with it enabled.

 

[stndn]

blocked for me, too ... -(

using mozilla 1.7.12 + adblock v0.5 d2 nightly, build 39
not adblock plus, and no filterset.G either

Hmmm... that actually makes me wonder how they do the checking for adblock and what triggers the blocking.
Maybe it will be a good practice homework after i take off from my job this week ,)

 

[kamper]

It caught me. Adblock+

No matter. It'll be circumvented soon enough and if not, they still won't get ad revenue from me

Edit: wait, I just went there with Safari and still didn't see any ads

 

[Atheus]

I'm using adblock plus on FF1.5 and I get:

Adblock User - Please whitelist DHC

Digital Home Canada's only source of revenue is advertising. The site is the hard work of one individual and I simply cannot afford to serve up webpages and not be paid for them.

To temporarily disbable Adblock:

etc.


This should be easy to prevent with a few changes to the code. Adblock must have a specific signature the site is able to detect, but I can't think how it works... If I was making an ad-blocker I'd have it download the html of a site, then search for links on my blacklist and edit them out. There's no way the server could detect I'm doing that...

 

[BlueWeasel]

Wonder if it's a FF1.5 issue?

I'm using FF1.07 and no problems with Adblock.

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Wonder if it's a FF1.5 issue?

I'm using FF1.07 and no problems with Adblock.

Nope. I'm using 1.5 (under linux).

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Wonder if it's a FF1.5 issue?

I'm using FF1.07 and no problems with Adblock.

I would venture it's AdBlock Plus "causing" it the issue and not AdBlock.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: Atheus
This should be easy to prevent with a few changes to the code. Adblock must have a specific signature the site is able to detect, but I can't think how it works... If I was making an ad-blocker I'd have it download the html of a site, then search for links on my blacklist and edit them out. There's no way the server could detect I'm doing that...

if (window._AdblockFiltered)

Just a little snippet of javascript. Can someone who knows greasemonkey write something to knock this off? Maybe set window._AdblockFiltered to false just before the page loads and set it back to true right after? Or maybe that would actually stop adblock from working...

 

[Atheus]

Hmm, adblock sets a flag on the window? Maybe we should file a bug requesting this is turned off...

 

[superjohnyo]

http://www.noscript.net/ is your friend.

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: superjohnyo
http://www.noscript.net/ is your friend.

Just installed it, gave it a whirl, and works!

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: superjohnyo
http://www.noscript.net/ is your friend.

Maybe, but he's not quote smart enough. Imagine if these forums started employing that trick; they'd be all but unuseable. There's gonna have to be a much more fine grained fix, I think.

 

[xtknight]

No problems with Opera+Proxomitron. Suck it, ads!

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: xtknight
No problems with Opera+Proxomitron. Suck it, ads!

That's because it's too obscure for web developers to bother targeting it. And if they did, at least we have the ability to fix it ourselves

 

[xtknight]

When they do find a way to do it (check image load?) I can make my own filters to destroy their code to do it.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: xtknight
When they do find a way to do it (check image load?) I can make my own filters to destroy their code to do it.

Explain? Can you write something to make proxomitron disect javascript that's getting passed through it?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: xtknight
When they do find a way to do it (check image load?) I can make my own filters to destroy their code to do it.

Explain? Can you write something to make proxomitron disect javascript that's getting passed through it?

It's a configurable local proxy, so I can replace any text within the site with the text I specify (I can use regular expressions as well). So yes, I can modify the site however I like and most likely bypass their mechanisms. I haven't messed around with Proxomitron that much so I don't know if you can modify what's in their actual js files or not. There's probably a way. Or maybe that replacer applies for .js files too.

I have all my browsers (IE, Mozilla FireFox, Opera) set to go through Proxomitron and it works brilliantly. You can also tell Proxomitron to go through another proxy so it's very seamless. Fast too. I much prefer it to AdBlock.

For example here's the preset "DOM Banner Blaster v0.007":

 

[xtknight]

Hmm. AdBlock must set a property on the window called _AdblockFiltered?

 

[dukdukgoos]

WFM with FF 1.5, Adblock Plus and Filterset G updater

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: xtknight
When they do find a way to do it (check image load?) I can make my own filters to destroy their code to do it.

Explain? Can you write something to make proxomitron disect javascript that's getting passed through it?

It's a configurable local proxy, so I can replace any text within the site with the text I specify (I can use regular expressions as well). So yes, I can modify the site however I like and most likely bypass their mechanisms. I haven't messed around with Proxomitron that much so I don't know if you can modify what's in their actual js files or not. There's probably a way. Or maybe that replacer applies for .js files too.

I have all my browsers (IE, Mozilla FireFox, Opera) set to go through Proxomitron and it works brilliantly. You can also tell Proxomitron to go through another proxy so it's very seamless. Fast too. I much prefer it to AdBlock.

For example here's the preset "DOM Banner Blaster v0.007":

I'd still rather have something that has local access to the parsed html. Granted, straight up regex access to the page's text would be nice too.