Firewall that works with vista x64

[kentsfield]

Hi!

Can someone please tell me wich firewall works with vista x64. I would prefer if it`s free. Most 32 bit programs run fine on my system. I do have avast x64 version. But spywareblaster and ccleaner also work fine. i just dont know about firewall, can i use 32 bit firewall like zonealarm or good old sygate.

p.s. I now about comodo x64 but it`s still beta and has lots of bugs. I also heard about jetico wich is also beta and i haven`t read any good reviews about it.

 

[lxskllr]

What's wrong with the built in firewall?

 

[kentsfield]

Well i don`t like the advanced option interface. By defult it only controls inbound traffic, and in advanced options i find it hard to configure.

 

[stash]

Inbound traffic is all you need to worry about unless you need to block outbound for management purposes. For example, if you don't certain users of your machine to be able to use an instant messaging app.

 

[kentsfield]

I know but i like to have a little more control over my traffic.

 

[surikas]

I use ZoneAlarm..

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: surikas
I use ZoneAlarm..

Interesting that ZA suite has a Vista compatible FW, but the standalone FW isn't Vista compatible yet.

 

[blackangst1]

Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

:thumbsup:

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

:thumbsup:

Whuh? Vista's firewall can't hold a candle to something like OP Pro in terms of enhanced features and performance. If Win FW does the trick for YOUR application, then okay. But to peddle it as the equal of dedicated, 3rd party offerings is simply wrong.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

:thumbsup:

Whuh? Vista's firewall can't hold a candle to something like OP Pro in terms of enhanced features and performance. If Win FW does the trick for YOUR application, then okay. But to peddle it as the equal of dedicated, 3rd party offerings is simply wrong.

Elaborate...

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

:thumbsup:

Whuh? Vista's firewall can't hold a candle to something like OP Pro in terms of enhanced features and performance. If Win FW does the trick for YOUR application, then okay. But to peddle it as the equal of dedicated, 3rd party offerings is simply wrong.

Elaborate...

What more could I say to further detail a fairly direct statement? Vista's FW is a minimalist approach to a problem. Considering the potential problems created by a compromised system, I simply can't trust my my securty to a MS afterthought.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

What more could I say to further detail a fairly direct statement? Vista's FW is a minimalist approach to a problem. Considering the potential problems created by a compromised system, I simply can't trust my my securty to a MS afterthought.

Well, you could start by telling me what Vista's firewall doesn't do.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

What more could I say to further detail a fairly direct statement?

Well, you could start by telling me what Vista's firewall doesn't do.

I could, but I would consider such a thing an exercise in futility. I'm simply going to assume that your internet connection is as functional as mine, and that you're more than capable of researching a particular topic. I hope this posture doesn't offend you in any way, but I just don't feel moved to participate in a tad-for-tad discussion when the choice I've made on the subject of SW FW's works just fine for me.

 

[lxskllr]

I guess I'll have to stick with my recommendation of Vista's firewall then. I was hoping for an education, but that didn't quite pan out.

 

[HardWarrior]

How utterly passive this sounds, lxskllr.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
How utterly passive this sounds, lxskllr.

Well the thing is, I've used a few 3rd party firewalls, and I don't see how they're any better than Vista's. I was trying to prod you into justifying your answer, and exactly as I suspected it couldn't be justified. If you care to prove me wrong, then go ahead, I'm willing to learn something new. I doubt there's anything I'm missing though...

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Im not sure why people dont use the built in one...I cant think of too many things, let alone important ones, a 3rd party firewall can do that Vista's cant...why throw in a possible software conflict? If your safety is important to you, spend the time and learn how to configure it. Trust me it will do whatever you need it to.

:thumbsup:

Whuh? Vista's firewall can't hold a candle to something like OP Pro in terms of enhanced features and performance. If Win FW does the trick for YOUR application, then okay. But to peddle it as the equal of dedicated, 3rd party offerings is simply wrong.

Elaborate...

What more could I say to further detail a fairly direct statement? Vista's FW is a minimalist approach to a problem. Considering the potential problems created by a compromised system, I simply can't trust my my securty to a MS afterthought.

I personally use the Vista's built-in firewall,besides with my hardware firewall in my router do you really need anything more ,especially with UAC enabled too and anti-spyware,anti-virus programs installed as well.

As far as I know all the free firewalls for Vista x64 are in the alpha/beta stage,if you are going to go for a paid version ,then you might as well buy a decent router with hardware firewall IMHO.


Comodo Vista x64 firewall (free version Pro V3 alpha ).


Outpost Security Suite Pro for Windows Vista 64-bit 2008 Public Beta

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
How utterly passive this sounds, lxskllr.

Well the thing is, I've used a few 3rd party firewalls, and I don't see how they're any better than Vista's. I was trying to prod you into justifying your answer, and exactly as I suspected it couldn't be justified. If you care to prove me wrong, then go ahead, I'm willing to learn something new. I doubt there's anything I'm missing though...

Prod? Justify? Passivity and arrogance, all in one charming package? Dude, if you want to believe that Vista's FW can hold a candle to a refined, feature-rich and granular standalone SW FW, you just go right ahead.

Do you remember me saying this:

If Win FW does the trick for YOUR application, then okay.

Does this not at least imply that one size does NOT fit all when it comes to security concerns? Instead of arbitrarily assigning yourself winner status in a nonexistant test of wills, just use what you want, and I'll do the same. And while you're at it, try to realize that this place is based on opinions, and not everyone is going to agree with yours.

 

[stash]

The Vista firewall is "refined, feature-rich and granular". Referring to it as an afterthought really shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

Have you even looked at the Advanced Firewall MMC?

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: stash
...shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

And you're a jackass stash, and a brain-dead one at that. You cowardly internet fat-mouths amaze me sometimes. One minute MS can't do anything right, and the next chimps like you fall on their knee's worshipping a watered-down component that is at best a half-assed stab at shutting down critics who say that MS OS's aren't adequately protected. And no, an administrator-differentiated snap-in doesn't alter the essential nature of Vista's FW.

Instead of attaching your e-penis to a piece of software, spend some serious time developing a bit of emotional stability, and some self-respect.

You have a PM reminding you about Forum guideline #1.

AnandTech Moderator
mechBgon

 

[stash]

Wow.

I'm still waiting to hear what Vista's firewall doesn't do that you need.

 

[HardWarrior]

Yeah wow, stupid.

Can you read with any comprehension whatsoever? I'm not going to try to convince you of anything. So you just sit your pompous, snide ass wherever you are and wait for something that ain't coming.

You have a PM reminding you about Forum guideline #1.

AnandTech Moderator
mechBgon

 

[NYCSTE2003]

i have to jump on in this thread and for all the vista firewall lovers. tell us what the heck it does over something like comodo, outpost, sygate, etc free firewalls?

does it check all dlls if needed does it check all outgoing and incoming things. i know xp doesnt but i dont know anything about vista.

i aint here to tell anyone they are wrong. but all your vista lovers tell us esp those that have used above mentioned firewalls how are they diff.

thats all some of the peeps wanna hear in this thread. how does vista firewall compare to the top rated free firewall software called comodo pro

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: NYCSTE2003
i have to jump on in this thread and for all the vista firewall lovers. tell us what the heck it does over something like comodo, outpost, sygate, etc free firewalls?

does it check all dlls if needed does it check all outgoing and incoming things. i know xp doesnt but i dont know anything about vista.

i aint here to tell anyone they are wrong. but all your vista lovers tell us esp those that have used above mentioned firewalls how are they diff.

thats all some of the peeps wanna hear in this thread. how does vista firewall compare to the top rated free firewall software called comodo pro

Here's a pretty decent overview of Vista's firewall capabilities.