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rbV5

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I am reading principledtechnologies pdf of the test and noted some problems with the test bed setups and information (Alan noted some issues as well):
(from page2)
Standard Definition TV's and DVD's cannot broadcast video frames completely at one time. They require the use of two interlacing fields to create the image

This is false. Standard defintion TV or SDTV is not the same as analog broadcast TV. SDTV can be 480i or 480p (interlaced or progressive) Where analog broadcast TV has but a single format, SDTV has 12 digital formats and can be 4:3 or 16:9. Reviewers, particularly video reviewers, in addition to reviewing a product, also serve to inform the reader. It is critical that the information is correct, otherwise it puts their review into question. The fact is that the term "SDTV" is often substituted for analog TV broadcasts, which it absolutely is not.

I also question outputting 1080i to a LCD display with a native resolution of 720p. IMO, all the tests should have been done at 720p resolution.

Also, if you read the Catalyst driver setup, the settings they used are not even 1080i or 720p resolutions, they are using mapped resolutions of 1776x1000 (its an optimised resolution to map 1920x1080 down to 1776x1000 to reduce overscan on some displays) and 1152x648 another mapped resolution(Catalyst drivers have native 1280x720 resolution built into the driver) The Nvidia settings specifically use actual resolutions rather than mapped resolutions "Under TV Overscan Correction, select 0 next to "Zoom Out %" and "9. In the HDTV Overscan Compensation screen, select Underscan." These 2 setting specifically direct the driver to output the resolution you select, not map the resolution to fit the screen like the Catalyst driver settings they selected. I'm not sure that they would have any bearing on the tests they run here, but it does offer yet another variable into the mix.

Outputing 1080i to a 720p display means interpolation that occurs in the display cicuits itself. The interpolation should be taking place in the output devices if thats what you are testing, not the display so as to take that variable out of the equation.


It also looks like this thread isn't going to be taken seriously, so I'll not waste my time adding to it beyond this post. I'll contribute to another if the topic rises again and is actuall a discussion on the topic rather than a dissection of Off topic posters "witty" retorts.


 

Nanobaud

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Originally posted by: Madellga
Someone's Dad works for Nvidia. That's the only explanation for what we see here.

Well, If noone's dad works for Nvidia, then they must be a bunch of Mothers...
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: Nanobaud
Originally posted by: Madellga
Someone's Dad works for Nvidia. That's the only explanation for what we see here.

Well, If noone's dad works for Nvidia, then they must be a bunch of Mothers...

Hmmm.

Nanobaud, this isn't a very friendly way to begin your career at AT. Assuming those of us who prefer nVidia GPUs want to get back where we came from is more than rude, it's tasteless.
 

Nanobaud

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Nanobaud
Originally posted by: Madellga
Someone's Dad works for Nvidia. That's the only explanation for what we see here.

Well, If noone's dad works for Nvidia, then they must be a bunch of Mothers...

Hmmm.

Nanobaud, this isn't a very friendly way to begin your career at AT. Assuming those of us who prefer nVidia GPUs want to get back where we came from is more than rude, it's tasteless.



Perhaps I underestimated the need for a , if so, I apologize.

In fact, I think Nvidia is far superior to ATI and others, but since none of the 'games' I play involve a "fire" command, my reasons don't weigh much here. But there I also presume something about other posters that I don't actually know. Of all of you that have a decided preference, how many have tried both Nvidia and ATI SDKs? (kind-of apples to {apples and oranges}, but that's the point.) :beer:
 

imported_Rampage

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Originally posted by: Nanobaud
In fact, I think Nvidia is far superior to ATI and others,

Most of us here know the truth as you do. Dont ever try to debate using your factual knowledge, they will remain adamant to ATI no matter what facts you bring up. You will most likely embarass quite a few of the guys here.

Welcome to the forums. :beer:
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: Nanobaud
In fact, I think Nvidia is far superior to ATI and others,

Most of us here know the truth as you do. Dont ever try to debate using your factual knowledge, they will remain adamant to ATI no matter what facts you bring up. You will most likely embarass quite a few of the guys here.

Welcome to the forums. :beer:

He has been here since 2004... Before you came onto the scene.
 

imported_Rampage

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Leave it to archangel to reply with some smartass comment.

I was referring to his post count and I'm assuming he'll be a regular here now, or was going to start posting more often in video.

Sorry for the confusion.. although I'm sure you were being completely non facetious in your comment anyway. :roll:
 
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