First dual core experience

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Truenofan
hey i got a question, what boards support a x2, its lookin mighty interesting to me, im just curious(i might get one in the near future).

oh and i wanted to say, man has dfi changed since i used them, i had a k6-2 board by them, and it sucked ass, the usb ports fried, and then the agp slot didnt work after long. apparently their mighty good now.

YEA DFI used to be a budget board maker like ECS/Foxconn etc. What happened is a bunch of abit engineers went to them and they went up huge in quality, options and statred catering to the enthusiast almost exclusivly. Today they are right up there with asus/abit/gigabyte...some would say better.

Anyway to answer you question here are some of the boards that support X2
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2457

All those names mentioned above NF4 boards do.

 

[entropy1982]

Originally posted by: Alkali

Originally posted by: entropy1982

Originally posted by: Alkali
If you are like me, and like to make sure your CPU purchases last a long time, get the X2 - it has a lot more life in the future than the other one you mention.

I am actually thinking about x2 3800+ when it comes out.... my original plan was 3000+ as i had mentioned and i agree with you that it has more future but the question is... by the time apps are actually made to work with dual core would buying a 3000+ for 120 bux now and then just waiting it out a couple years with it (i don't think there will be many apps within the next couple of years using dual core) and then in two years time, there should probably be a processor still using socket 939 for $250ish which would probably be a lot better than the x2 3800+ will be.

Of course i am speculating... any opinions on this?

Well, I remember about a year ago when everybody was saying how PCIe wouldn't work because everyone likes AGP. Then all the motherboard manufacturers stopped making AGP boards, and everyone bought PCIe. PCIe is now de-facto.

You can easily apply the same idea to dual-core. At the moment you can think it will be "years *(sigh)" before dual-core cpus are utilized. It may be very much like the AGP->PCIe transition in speed terms.

I totally agree with you but what i was asking is more about.... if they do use the 939 socket still (which i think they will) in a couple of years wouldnt 250 bux get me a much better x2 than i would get with 350 when the 3800+ comes out.... basically i am trying to weigh out whether i should get the 3000+ now and upgrade in a years an a half to x2 or just get the 3800+ now (when it comes out)

 

[Xyclone]

Sounds awesome! Well, I'm building a new computer next August, I build a new computer every two years. Let's see where technology takes us in a year.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Alkali

Originally posted by: entropy1982

Originally posted by: Alkali
If you are like me, and like to make sure your CPU purchases last a long time, get the X2 - it has a lot more life in the future than the other one you mention.

I am actually thinking about x2 3800+ when it comes out.... my original plan was 3000+ as i had mentioned and i agree with you that it has more future but the question is... by the time apps are actually made to work with dual core would buying a 3000+ for 120 bux now and then just waiting it out a couple years with it (i don't think there will be many apps within the next couple of years using dual core) and then in two years time, there should probably be a processor still using socket 939 for $250ish which would probably be a lot better than the x2 3800+ will be.

Of course i am speculating... any opinions on this?

Well, I remember about a year ago when everybody was saying how PCIe wouldn't work because everyone likes AGP. Then all the motherboard manufacturers stopped making AGP boards, and everyone bought PCIe. PCIe is now de-facto.

You can easily apply the same idea to dual-core. At the moment you can think it will be "years *(sigh)" before dual-core cpus are utilized. It may be very much like the AGP->PCIe transition in speed terms.

Great analogy and all except for the fact that PCI-E provides ZERO performance advantage over AGP which actually is exactly like the performance advantage dual core provides in 99% of apps out there over single core. Unless you *heavily* multitask on a regular basis a dual core processor is a silly investment and a large waste of money.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
I agree.........Im just in shock from my new rig.....Shock.

Damn, nice rig....

 

[lytalbayre]

I can't complain too much with my 4400+ (it was expensive) but....

I don't every get those stupid delays while opening multiple apps... I can run many things at once. There's a huge convenience factor.

Those of you who say there are not many multi-threaded apps... true, but the x2 performs as well as it's single core counterparts in regular apps, plus you get the ability to multi-task etc.

 

[mooncancook]

Unless you *heavily* multitask on a regular basis a dual core processor is a silly investment and a large waste of money.

True. There are too few multi-threaded apps now for the average uers. If you don't multi-task a lot it's a waste of money. If you wait you can probably get a decent A64 and a good x2 later for the price of one x2 now.

With that said, I was encoding some mpeg videos with TMPGenc last night. This nice little free program push both cores to 100% usage, unlike DVD Author that I previously tried that used only 50% of CPU. I was a little reluctant to start BF2 coz both cores are used up. I did anyway, and lo n beho' BF2 played like there's no video encoding running concurrently. This alone is worth the price of admission coz i have very limited available time for gaming and i really wanted to do both at the same time without having two PCs.

Like my buddy with a dual operton setup says, once you get dual cpu you never want to go back to single core. It's still overpriced but it's a way better investment that a FX or a 7800 IMO.

 

[Markfw]

Unless you *heavily* multitask on a regular basis a dual core processor is a silly investment and a large waste of money.

Not if you run F@H. If I replace all my F@H boxes with X2's, I can cut my electric bill by $40 a month. Not that would take 4 years and 2 months to get back $2000 in processor investment, but it isn't silly. or a waste of money. There are also other benefits I would get from it. Maybe aftr I pay off the house next year.....

 

[mooncancook]

@Markfw900

2 Athlon64 X2 4400+'s
Dual Opteron 248's
5 Seagate Cheetah
LSI Megaraid 1650

wow what do you do with your rigs?!! hosting??

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: mooncancookMaybe this will be the first overpriced purchase that I will not regret

it wasn't overpriced if you were blown away by the results








btw i h8 all u X2 owners :|

 

[mooncancook]

Originally posted by: AkumaX

Originally posted by: mooncancookMaybe this will be the first overpriced purchase that I will not regret

it wasn't overpriced if you were blown away by the results



btw i h8 all u X2 owners :|

we'll hate you back when you can buy the same thing for half of what we paid for

anyway it wasn't an easy decision... i could have use the money to get a set of HID conversion kit for my car...

 

[rmed64]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Yes, the dual core is pretty awesome. Pretty freaking awesome! Too bad it will be around 150-200 dollars in a year or so, if the prices fall at the same rate the 3000+ venice did.

TOO BAD? you arent serious are you? Us poor people gotta eat too!!!

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: wasserkool
oooh can't wait for my X2 4800 from my buddy in AMD

Oh do tell.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: mooncancook
@Markfw900

2 Athlon64 X2 4400+'s
Dual Opteron 248's
5 Seagate Cheetah
LSI Megaraid 1650

wow what do you do with your rigs?!! hosting??

F@H, lan parties at my house (hardly anybody brings one), and just playing with hardware.