First GPU-Z of upcoming Nvidia GTX 780!!!

[Cookie Monster]

Really ? haha, that is bad. Thought it did. I know the 7970/7950 do.

Yeah! and I know this first hand! That's why I wanted to see if the vapor chambers found on the GTX580/570 would fit in the GTX680 but couldn't actually get my hands on the heatsink.

Cost reducing to the maximum I suppose. Hell why not if the card doesn't really need it anyway? All of this at stock frequencies of course

 

[Grooveriding]

Yeah! and I know this first hand! That's why I wanted to see if the vapor chambers found on the GTX580/570 would fit in the GTX680 but couldn't actually get my hands on the heatsink.

Cost reducing to the maximum I suppose. Hell why not if the card doesn't really need it anyway? All of this at stock frequencies of course

I had two 680s and briefly ran them on air. I saw temperatures in the mid 80s, couldn't of hurt to put some better coolers on there. 680 is a good card, but the reference model feels like a no frills card when you generally don't expect that of a $500 flagship.

The reference 670 is even worse, card reminds me of an HTPC card.

 

[moonbogg]

Whatever it is it will be too expensive and not worth it over current stuff. Hate to say it but Nvidia broke my opinion of them. I can't imagine them being interested in offering me a value product that makes sense ever again.

 

[funnyman86]

Price better be around $500-$550 otherwise I'm going with ATI from now on. I'm not paying $700-$1,000 for a graphics card in this crappy economy and 770 should be around $330-$400 like 70 model usually is. If Nvidia wants to play this messed up game called overpricing our graphics cards, than let's see ATI respond back with affordable graphics card that work just as good for less money.

 

[paul878]

Price better be around $500-$550 otherwise I'm going with ATI from now on. I'm not paying $700-$1,000 for a graphics card in this crappy economy and 770 should be around $330-$400 like 70 model usually is. If Nvidia wants to play this messed up game called overpricing our graphics cards, than let's see ATI respond back with affordable graphics card that work just as good for less money.

Nvida is selling all the Titan they can make, it is not going to stop. Intel is killing the low end Graphic market. This is the beginning of Ultra High end/price market for GPU.

 

[ICDP]

Nvida is selling all the Titan they can make, it is not going to stop. Intel is killing the low end Graphic market. This is the beginning of Ultra High end/price market for GPU.

I just checked after reading this and Titan is in stock at MSRP on Newegg and Amazon over in the US. Here in the UK it is in stock with Overclockers and Scan. I stopped checking after that. Though I suppose technically Nvidia sold them to their AIBs, who sold them to those etailers. But I suspect you meant they are out of stock everywhere right?

I'm hoping the new GTX780 is priced at a far more realisitc level. If it is not significantly faster (20%) than GTX680 it will be a pointless upgrade. This then brings the problem that the 780 will only be 20% slower than Titan and it will destory Titan sales.

Interesting to see how the new gen pricing pans out.

 

[blckgrffn]

I just checked after reading this and Titan is in stock at MSRP on Newegg and Amazon over in the US. Here in the UK it is in stock with Overclockers and Scan. I stopped checking after that. Though I suppose technically Nvidia sold them to their AIBs, who sold them to those etailers. But I suspect you meant they are out of stock everywhere right?

I'm hoping the new GTX780 is priced at a far more realisitc level. If it is not significantly faster (20%) than GTX680 it will be a pointless upgrade. This then brings the problem that the 780 will only be 20% slower than Titan and it will destory Titan sales.

Interesting to see how the new gen pricing pans out.

Hey hey hey, what do you think you are doing? Using data to contribute to a thread? Lame. You are just supposed to be trolling or witty.

I think that's interesting though - no incentives, in stock and presumably sitting there. I am still a bit disappointed that you can spend ~$300 on a 7950 that is built balls out as far as components and PCB, but not a $1k Titan.

What I would find really interesting in how many Titans are being purchased for compute/science as opposed to playing games. To me that is where nvidia derived the price of the product - are sales that arena meeting expectations? Can we expect this ~$1k wannabe Tesla product as a recurring SKU in the future?

 

[mkmitch]

Nvida is selling all the Titan they can make, it is not going to stop. Intel is killing the low end Graphic market. This is the beginning of Ultra High end/price market for GPU.

Hmmm how do you know this, got a link? A quick check of ten sites indicates that there is plenty of inventory in the US.

 

[Cloudfire777]

You can`t judge Kepler sales on wether its outsold or not now.

Neither GTX 680, 690, 670 or Titan is out of stock anywhere. Thats because the yields back at TSMC is great for Nvidia. They produce far more than the market want. Thats why they keep milking us with new SKUs all over the place. Its actually a conspiracy, since both AMD and Nvidia could have unleashed the greatest GCN/Kepler a long time ago, but instead they start on small chips with a reasonable price. Then they push out a monster compared (7990/690/Titan) and pick whatever price they want since there isn`t any middle ground between 680 and 690. People will pay a hefty premium for it since there are no other options. Then after a good while they release the GPUs they had finished on the drawing board a looooong time ago even when we were buying GTX 680, to patch in the void between GTX 680 and GTX 690. That is where this GTX 780 comes in. And people go crazy and spend their money again while the CEOs of both companies smile and get fatter and richer.

@blckgrffn: You`re right, I bet you that the people who do professional work buy Kepler just for the GPGPU performance instead of buying a Tesla for 4x the amount of a Titan. Sure you won`t get the ECC memory and the insurance you get on Tesla cards, but its most likely a lot cheaper in the end anyways.

 

[1nf1d3l]

If we are to assume an overall increase of 10-20% over current 680s, why couldn't this be a 685 or something like that...something to give Nvidia an answer to the 7970Ghz?

 

[skipsneeky2]

I like the possible name the GTX680 Ultra!

To many GTX cards in the lineup,we used to have the gs,gt,gts,gtx then the ultra,bring back the Ultra name.

 

[tviceman]

I don't understand the surprise or calamity in this thread. If these rumors are true, the performance jump between the gtx680 to 780 will be larger than the performance difference between gtx480 and 580. Kepler is due for a refresh and it's been heavily rumored that no one but apple will have high volume access to TSMC 20nm for several months after it's debut. GTX 780 should be about 15% faster than a hd7970GE, it will probably have neutered DP, and 5 gigs of vram and I am guessing $599 msrp.

 

[Silverforce11]

It should not be a suprise, who here actually thinks TSMC can make a 550mm2 28nm GPU with decent yields? No one? Ok, all those defective dies need to go into products otherwise they are wasted $$ to NV.

 

[tweakboy]

Well rumor has it it will debut @ 899 dollars. That is a CPU, a MOBO and RAM and video card with that kind of money. 400 or 500 dollars I understand but 1k is a bit too much. Maybe I wait for 2 years and get a Titan for 400 dollars. gl

 

[Fx1]

I don't understand the surprise or calamity in this thread. If these rumors are true, the performance jump between the gtx680 to 780 will be larger than the performance difference between gtx480 and 580. Kepler is due for a refresh and it's been heavily rumored that no one but apple will have high volume access to TSMC 20nm for several months after it's debut. GTX 780 should be about 15% faster than a hd7970GE, it will probably have neutered DP, and 5 gigs of vram and I am guessing $599 msrp.

5GB of RAM LOL

Try 3GB MAX

 

[smackababy]

5GB of RAM LOL

Try 3GB MAX

Ofc it wil be 3gb and then in a few months they will release a 6gb version for $100 more.

 

[Fx1]

If it scales as badly as Titan does then the 780 GTX will suck.

Titan is only 30-40% faster than a 680 which is slower than the 7970. So a lesser Titan will only be 20% faster maybe. A 7970 could only be 10% slower than this new 780 GTX.

 

[funnyman86]

If we are to assume an overall increase of 10-20% over current 680s, why couldn't this be a 685 or something like that...something to give Nvidia an answer to the 7970Ghz?

Doesn't an Msi Gtx 680 lightning 2gb already beat a 7970ghz? :whiste:

Maybe not in vram but in overall performance.


Also, what about the gtx 680 4gb card, I'd think that would beat the 7970ghz too.

 

[ICDP]

Doesn't an Msi Gtx 680 lightning 2gb already beat a 7970ghz? :whiste:

Maybe not in vram but in overall performance.

Also, what about the gtx 680 4gb card, I'd think that would beat the 7970ghz too.

Nope, both about the same speed at stock and overclocked. I know, I had one on test for a while. The 680 4GB cards are no faster clock for clock than a standard 2GB version.

 

[tviceman]

5GB of RAM LOL

Try 3GB MAX

A 320-bit interface corresponds to 2.5 or 5 GB of vram. Nvidia has used mixed memory con figs for lower class cards before, but never for high end. You are still obviously not stating anything with any kind of informed opinion.

Titan is only 30-40% faster than a 680 which is slower than the 7970. So a lesser Titan will only be 20% faster maybe. A 7970 could only be 10% slower than this new 780 GTX.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=61825&page=60
An aggregate of reviews across a plethora of games shows Titan is 33% faster than an hd7970GE at 2560p and 45% faster than hd7970GE in triple monitor setups. Here at this very site, anandtech shows titan being on average 47% faster than gtx680. So again, like usual, you are way off.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Well I was wrong.

It is pretty much confirmed that this GPU will not be GTX 780 but a new GTX Titan.

HWiNFO32 and HWiNFO64 v4.15-1895 Beta released

• Added nVidia GK110 models: GeForce GTX Titan LE, Tesla K20, Tesla K20X.

http://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-HWiNFO32-and-HWiNFO64-v4-15-1895-Beta-released

 

[blckgrffn]

Hmmm...

For quite a while I had a 7900 GTO that I just clocked back up to 7900U speeds - similar card here? Missing a SMX or something?

What are they really going to do though - down clock it and put an even cheaper cooler on it?

The 7900GTO was good deal because it was super cheap. I'll have to look and see how much I paid for it - but at the time there wasn't the weird relationship in existence like there is between the 680GTX and Titan.

Could just be a limited edition run to clear out a backlog of parts? Seems too soon.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2006402 <-- sweet nostalgia. I bought one from the first run, though. No regrets about that card, it had pretty decent legs. Replaced it eventually with a $80 4830.

Sorry, that would have been 7900GTX I was referring to

 

[Cloudfire777]

Hmmm...

For quite a while I had a 7900 GTO that I just clocked back up to 7900U speeds - similar card here? Missing a SMX or something?

What are they really going to do though - down clock it and put an even cheaper cooler on it?

The 7900GTO was good deal because it was super cheap. I'll have to look and see how much I paid for it - but at the time there wasn't the weird relationship in existence like there is between the 680GTX and Titan.

Could just be a limited edition run to clear out a backlog of parts? Seems too soon.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2006402 <-- sweet nostalgia. I bought one from the first run, though. No regrets about that card, it had pretty decent legs. Replaced it eventually with a $80 4830.

Sorry, that would have been 7900GTX I was referring to

If the GPU-Z from the OP is correct: GTX Titan LE have 2 SMX disabled from the GTX Titan. 5GB VRAM instead of 6GB VRAM. 320 bit vs 384bit.

Maybe a cheaper cooler too yeah. Who knows.

 

[funnyman86]

Well I was wrong.

It is pretty much confirmed that this GPU will not be GTX 780 but a new GTX Titan.



http://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-HWiNFO32-and-HWiNFO64-v4-15-1895-Beta-released

You have to be bleeping kidding me. Overpriced gpus... I'm this close to switching to ATI. This is ridiculous. I don't want these overpriced gpus, I want the 780 and 770 gpus.

Where the hell are the 780($500-$550) and 770($350-$400) at? No sane person in a crappy ass USA Economy wants to pay 1 grand or 700-800 bucks for a gpu.

Why is Nvidia doing their best at trying to get beat by ATI? Nvidia is even dumb enough to get into the mobile HandHeld business which isn't even a good business to get involved with since the only successful Handhelds are 3ds(barely too) and Ipods. The Powerful Vita is failing right now and so will Nvidia's stupid handheld. You're a freaking Gpu manufacturer, why in the hell would they try to get into Handhelds? Most people don't even like Handhelds, and I'm one of the few who actually owns the Vita but it collects dust because it has lackluster games on it so far. Nvidia would have done better if they built their own console instead of some Handheld that I bet sells like poop even at a cheap 300 dollar price tag and this is the handheld thats suppose to be cheap right? Well, the Vita was around that price Range and it still failed. Vita did pick up steam in Japan only when they lowered the price tag, and the same will happen in the states when Sony finally lowers it. Still the Handheld business is no wheres near Consoles.

 

[motsm]

To see another over priced Titan now being released just pisses me off quite frankly, might as well take advantage of as many people as they can while they have the opportunity.