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blastingcap

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Not off hand, just going by what info I've garnered from Beyond3D and other places. Let's put it this way, there is no way Nvidia was going to let AMD have the Eyefinity like market to themselves for another generation, so I have no doubt the 680 will support 3+ displays.

But didn't they start designing Kepler prior to the announcement of Evergreen? I'm pretty confident but not 100% confident that it's something they could "drop into" the hardware in the middle of designing it, hence my asking.

Nvidia did have Surround working with multi-GPU, but for various reasons I don't want to use multi-GPU.
 

f1sherman

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I buy what I like, I am brand agnostic with few exceptions. My avatar, I'm using it cause I like it, hats off to whoever did the original image great stuff.




I like it too

it looks like an image of a Japanese monk (notice duality,ying-yang),
who has after life-long mediation period, achieved profound inner balance, utterly incomprehensible to western civilization
 

Pwndenburg

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I like it too

it looks like an image of a Japanese monk (notice duality,ying-yang),
who has after life-long mediation period, achieved profound inner balance, utterly incomprehensible to western civilization

I can't help but feel you may have watched a few too many movies. I happen to like my western culture.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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But didn't they start designing Kepler prior to the announcement of Evergreen? I'm pretty confident but not 100% confident that it's something they could "drop into" the hardware in the middle of designing it, hence my asking.

Anyone else find it amazing that Nvidia and AMD always end up with similar performance despite this? I mean, we have 2 companies with different engineers who come up with completely different architectures, with no clue what the competitor is doing, and yet, they always end up within 10-15% of each other... (bar the occasional disaster...)

Then again, they both have the same human and technological limits, so I guess it makes sense in a way
 

Grooveriding

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Anyone else find it amazing that Nvidia and AMD always end up with similar performance despite this? I mean, we have 2 companies with different engineers who come up with completely different architectures, with no clue what the competitor is doing, and yet, they always end up within 10-15% of each other... (bar the occasional disaster...)

Then again, they both have the same human and technological limits, so I guess it makes sense in a way

Could be, but AMD's CPUs are pretty poor compared to Intel's. Bulldozer and SB are both 32nm, and we all know how that one goes. AMD and NV do share the same fab though, while AMD CPU and Intel do not.

This launch will be cool because of the similar die size. Looking forward to seeing if someone offers benches of both cards at the same clocks. The GK104 being, apparently, a little smaller than Tahiti will be the better chip imo if it just equal to Tahiti, never mind faster. Doing the same amount of work with less resources is always a good thing, at least from the company's perspective. Doesn't really affect an end-user, unless we are talking grossly OTT thermals resulting in obscene heat/noise.
 

f1sherman

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Anyone else find it amazing that Nvidia and AMD always end up with similar performance despite this? I mean, we have 2 companies with different engineers who come up with completely different architectures, with no clue what the competitor is doing, and yet, they always end up within 10-15% of each other... (bar the occasional disaster...)

The most fascinating stuff about two GPU rivals ^^ no doubt
 

blackened23

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Come on dude. If Bofox was instead posting how awesome he thought the 7970 was, would you be saying boo to him right now?

No, because every single poster here that dares say something NOT glowing about nvidia is absolutely an AMD marketer. Thats what people at another board think, although its cool because its mostly a circle jerk between the same 10 posters over there talking about how much AMD sucks and how Nvidia will save the world. :thumbsup: This is the home of AMD viral bro

AMD spends at least 2 hours every morning posting on BB's, i'm sure they have nothing better to do.

PS. Nvidia will cure cancer and have a solution for homeless and hungry people with the release of Kepler. They will save the world from all wrongs. There, is that better? This is the posting model that we should all emulate here.
 
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SirPauly

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I like it too

it looks like an image of a Japanese monk (notice duality,ying-yang),
who has after life-long mediation period, achieved profound inner balance, utterly incomprehensible to western civilization

And gave it all up after discovering PC Gaming!
 

SirPauly

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No, because every single poster here that dares say something NOT glowing about nvidia is absolutely an AMD marketer. Thats what people at another board think, although its cool because its mostly a circle jerk between the same 10 posters over there talking about how much AMD sucks and how Nvidia will save the world. :thumbsup: This is the home of AMD viral bro

AMD spends at least 2 hours every morning posting on BB's, i'm sure they have nothing better to do.

PS. Nvidia will cure cancer and have a solution for homeless and hungry people with the release of Kepler. They will save the world from all wrongs. There, is that better? This is the posting model that we should all emulate here.

I think some posters may believe there may be shills but playing arm chair IHV executive would place focus on trying to receive good reviews from third party organizations. What happens, to me, is most of the forums may sound like noise and confusion more-so than help and clarity.
 

AnandThenMan

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I think some posters may believe there may be shills...
Do you post over at ABT? I don't, but I've seen posts there directly accusing this forum of being an AMD shill haven, bought and paid for.

BTW, the real reason I changed my avatar is some jackass named grstanford over at ABT stole the one I made.
 

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I mean, we have 2 companies with different engineers who come up with completely different architectures, with no clue what the competitor is doing, and yet, they always end up within 10-15% of each other... (bar the occasional disaster...)

Nvidia seems to know exactly what AMD is doing, way ahead of the release date.
 

SirPauly

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Do you post over at ABT? I don't, but I've seen posts there directly accusing this forum of being an AMD shill haven, bought and paid for.

BTW, the real reason I changed my avatar is some jackass named grstanford over at ABT stole the one I made.


I've been accused of a 3dfx, ATI and nVidia shill. I rather engage the posters points about hardware pros and cons, share in the enthusiasm about the gaming experiences and discuss what makes GPU's so frigg'n great over-all.
 

bryanW1995

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Isn't it 6 months between tap out and release? That's assuming no bugs, right?

That would give the GK104 about four months soaking up huge profits, Nvidia won't be happy until BigK hits even if their mid ranged die beats AMD's best, neither will many of us.

It can't ruin a product that was intended to replace a $250 part.


Looks like AMD woefully over estimated their products or assumed Nvidia was going to be 6 months late, with another GF100 type card they could bank on initial reviews tainting an otherwise great product.

I agree with this. If gtx 680 is just competitive with 7970, then NV will be doing pretty well right now. Plus, they get the reputation for being "small die", efficient, etc etc for the power conscious users, taking a previously very-effective bullet away from AMD marketing's arsenal. And they still bring out their big gun towards the end of the year. It's looking quite a bit actually like the fermi 40nm launches, only the "gtx 460" equivalent card won't be severely underclocked this time and the "gtx 580" equivalent card won't have the gtx 480's terribad launch hurting the company.
 

AnandThenMan

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SirPauly why don't you ever answer any questions posed to you? I suppose you won't answer this one either.
 

formulav8

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You have to be smoking crack if you think that nVidia will put a $300 MSRP on these cards.

For real, nvidia won't save the day like some people were/are apparently thinking. They've been outright worse than AMD in basically every generation. I haven't seen official pricing yet but you can be fairly sure that they are going to be very close or higher than AMD's top dog.
 
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bryanW1995

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Take it easy with the cynicism.. your accusation is going nowhere. All I did was state a few reasons why I think GTX 680 would be awesome, that's it. There's no reason for you to defend yourself in your own strawman argument that you set up.

Frankly, I'm surprised that you think GTX 680 is going to be "awesome", assuming it is GK104 of course (at least most people from both camps seem to agree on THAT). A highly overclocked/overvolted gtx 560 ti would be competitive with 6970 at lower resolutions, why couldn't NV take the gtx 560 ti's 28nm replacement and basically overclock/overvolt it to keep it competitive with the 6970's replacement? All NV needs is a placeholder until the big monster hits. Even if you strongly favor NV, which many people here do, it seems that you would want to wait for the "gtx 780" or whatever they end up calling bigK.
 

formulav8

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+1 to this. Then he made a thread over at ABT complaining about those guys. Man, does ABT produce anything worth wild? Woof.QUOTE]

I've been over to ABT somewhat recently, and well, its majorly nvidia shady. Is it still the original founder or did he relegate it to someone else.....? Anyone know for sure?
 
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SirPauly

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SirPauly why don't you ever answer any questions posed to you? I suppose you won't answer this one either.

Because I don't care for the shill discussions over-all and irrelevant to me. What I care about is the hardware and what the hardware can do for gaming as a whole.

I loathe over-all personal attacks and drama but passionate about the hardware, so one has to find their way through the drama mines to read quality posts.
 

formulav8

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Frankly, I'm surprised that you think GTX 680 is going to be "awesome", assuming it is GK104 of course (at least most people from both camps seem to agree on THAT). A highly overclocked/overvolted gtx 560 ti would be competitive with 6970 at lower resolutions, why couldn't NV take the gtx 560 ti's 28nm replacement and basically overclock/overvolt it to keep it competitive with the 6970's replacement? All NV needs is a placeholder until the big monster hits. Even if you strongly favor NV, which many people here do, it seems that you would want to wait for the "gtx 780" or whatever they end up calling bigK.

So is nvidia's just about to be released card apparently an 560ti area stop gap and not a 7950/70 go ahead? I can't keep up with this stuff...... :\
 
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bryanW1995

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+1 to this. Then he made a thread over at ABT complaining about those guys. Man, does ABT produce anything worth wild? Woof.QUOTE]

I've been over to ABT somewhat recently, and well, its majorly nvidia shady. Is it still the original founder or did he relegate it to someone else.....? Anyone know for sure?

It's still apoppin if that's what you're asking.
 

Keysplayr

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No, because every single poster here that dares say something NOT glowing about nvidia is absolutely an AMD marketer. Thats what people at another board think, although its cool because its mostly a circle jerk between the same 10 posters over there talking about how much AMD sucks and how Nvidia will save the world. :thumbsup: This is the home of AMD viral bro

AMD spends at least 2 hours every morning posting on BB's, i'm sure they have nothing better to do.

PS. Nvidia will cure cancer and have a solution for homeless and hungry people with the release of Kepler. They will save the world from all wrongs. There, is that better? This is the posting model that we should all emulate here.

:thumbsup:

For what it's worth, and you might appreciate this, Apoppin loves all the hardware, but has always, since I have known him, been partial to AMD and I believe he still is. He just does not like the answers he got from AMD when he asked them about their stealth marketing campaign. Does not like the fact that despite his reviews are unbiased, they cut him off from review samples. I believe he just had to buy his own 7970 to bench. I get along with him a lot better than I used to. We usually went back and forth with each other.
Anyway, I thought you would appreciate that Apoppins "roots" slant toward ATI/AMD stuff. His reviews do not reflect this however.
 
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