If you also read the HardOCP review, they say the same thing he did. It throttles but even after the throttling it maintains higher then advertised boost clocks. I don't see the fuss, and this non issue will be even less of an issue with AIB cards.
Retail cards dont seem to throttle. Sorry to bust that one
No numbers are listed. Sure my card also throttles...down from 1900Mhz+ to 1800Mhz something. Way above expected boost clock.
That's way above the listed default boost clocks. Not a problem really thenNo numbers are listed. Sure my card also throttles...down from 1900Mhz+ to 1800Mhz something. Way above expected boost clock.
That's way above the listed default boost clocks. Not a problem really then
If it drops below advertised boost clock, its only momentary. As per your graph it by far spends the great majority well above advertised boost clock. And average all second by second readings after 300 second mark and it will be well above advertised boost. I know you see this.Really?
This is also on an open air test bench. So inside of a case, like others have shown, it can drop below the advertised boost clock. And also, a well ventilated gaming case could very well remove heat better than an open air case. Unless the open air case had a bunch of fans blowing across it of course. Some reviewers do that.
All of this is already well documented, I don't know why people are still trying to deny it. In the end, I don't think many will mind making a custom fan target/curve and solving the issue without much added noise, but better to be realistic of the situation and how to deal with it than cover one's eyes and pretend like there's nothing to see.
That's way above the listed default boost clocks. Not a problem really then
That's nothing new with the way Nvidia's Boost works and the main thing here is that it is running well over the listed clocks. 1850-1900MHz or 2GHz is not that bad some are making it out to be. There are few other 1080FE owners they do report no such issue yet. Someone on another thread is getting 2050MHz with ease,not bad.It shows how limited the OC potential is and how "well" the "Premium" cooler works
It also proves that the retail cards do throttle.
That's way above the listed default boost clocks. Not a problem really then
Yep, I have seen that mate. All I said was in the context of the 1080FE owners reporting here. If they are not facing this issue then may be there isn't that big a problem that's been made out to. I am not too sure.Computerbase.de did a test in an actual case (unlike most of the other sites that use open air benches).
They found that the 1080 throttles down below it's advertised boost clock in 18 out of 21 games (86%), only managing to hit the advertized clocks in AotS, F1 2015 and MGS 5 (the last one is debatable though). It even throttles all the way down to base clocks in 7 of the games (33%)
Yep, I have seen that mate. All I said was in the context of the 1080FE owners reporting here. If they are not facing this issue then may be there isn't that big a problem that's been made out to. I am not too sure.
Also some people have reported it was down to initial drivers plus there was some fan revving issue which are still looked into. So we will see how it turns out
The reviews all use 368.14 or 368.16 beta. Retail uses 368.25.
Is there any mention of ambient temps during those benches? Any pics of the actual open air test bed?
Links appreciated.
I know you said computerbase.de
Looking around now.
OMG went there and did you see the ASUSstrix oc review?
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-strix-oc-test/4/
Noice.. so no worries about founders being the only option. Strix is about 90 euros cheaper too.
But until we have some actual reviews of these new drivers, I see no reason to suspect that the only test done in an actual case (that I'm aware of), which clearly shows the 1080 FE throttling down below the advertised clocks in the vast majority of games, is wrong.
Maybe the new drivers kick up the fan profile a scootch?
If it drops below advertised boost clock, its only momentary. As per your graph it by far spends the great majority well above advertised boost clock. And average all second by second readings after 300 second mark and it will be well above advertised boost. I know you see this.
OMG went there and did you see the ASUSstrix oc review?
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/a...rix-oc-test/4/
Noice.. so no worries about founders being the only option. Strix is about 90 euros cheaper too.
Edit: thanks antiheltin for the links.
You do realize that the plot is over 30 minutes long, right? So what may look like momentarily can be a significant amount of time while playing a game. Additionally, as I said in the post you quoted, this is an open air test bench and the card can throttle significantly more once inside of a case, as was already shown. The card throttles. It needs a higher fan speed and/or temperature target to not throttle. If you're ok with that, great, but that is the situation. Again, the good news is that reports are that the cards stays pretty quiet, even with a higher fan speed.
That is most likely a software restriction. A second power connector could easily deliver more power than that strix is pulling. Unless im reading the german translation poorly.Wow the coolers on the stock cards are disappointing. If it was less expensive than an AIB card that is one thing, but being more expensive than a 3rd party card I just don't see the point unless you want a reference card to add a water block to. FE doesn't stand for 'Founder's Edition' it stands for 'Fool's Edition'.
Waiting for the less expensive and higher performing AIB cards is the smart thing to do and much better value.
Anyway, interesting to see on the Strix review that the extra power connector didn't seem to help it OC any. Really does look like 2.0-2.1ghz it the limit for GP104.
That is most likely a software restriction. A second power connector could easily deliver more power than that strix is pulling. Unless im reading the german translation poorly.