First HD2900XT benchmarks are out

[Munky]

The performance looks good, although we definitely need benches using a higher resoulution, and more games. This is just a preview, I guess. The best news from this article is that AMD actually has r600 cards, they are not vaporware, and they may actually be availabe next month.

Still, I read that the midrange cards will be launched after the high end. So much for their lame excuse for the delay...

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
Same here... I'm waiting to see how the R600 holds up at higher resolutions, like 1920x1080.

Me too because high end video cards like the R600 need high resolutions to show what they can do!

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
wow, that made me horny. Thanks.

Even though AMD's stock might take a temporary hit from the news they're selling bonds, I know now they're not going to hell. This is good.

I just looked, they're actually up 3.1%

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Cool, but I'd like to know a little bit more specifically than "maximum detail settings"

Don't you think 1280x1024 is a little odd for testing such high-end cards?

exactly what i thought. my 8800gts 320 plays every games maxed at 12x10 and its playable .i really don't see why they bothered to bench it at 12x10.

oh yeah lok in the comment they say they had no display capable of more than 12x10 available in the facility.

Let's face it, AT video reviews are more or less a joke these days.

Yes, they definitely should start carrying that 30" screen everywhere they go - just in case.

 

[Zenoth]

Wait, there's something I don't get right away ...

So the direct competition to a GeForce 8800GTS is a HD 2900XT ?

I thought that it'd be a HD 2900XL instead. I mean isn't the GeForce 8800GTS considered the "middle range" of the G80 series ? I'm sorry I haven't followed news on the GPU side of things. So a HD 2900XTX is a competition to the GeForce 8800GTX, right ? Ok, but if the XT version competes with the GTS, then what will the HD 2900XL compete with ?

One thing I can say about those benchmarks though is that it is quite surprising to see better performance with less amount of Memory. I mean the GTS has 640 MB of Memory, and the HD 2900XT has 512 MB, which tells us that more Memory shouldn't play a big part in a GPU even in today's games. Well that's great, but unfortunately the XT will be out of my budget range, so I will wait for the HD 2900XL, anyone know when that version will be unveiled ?

 

[Reikon]

What I really want to see is ATI's response to the 8800 GTS 320 MB version i.e. their $250-300 price range card. Ugh, it's yet another waiting game...

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Zenoth

One thing I can say about those benchmarks though is that it is quite surprising to see better performance with less amount of Memory. I mean the GTS has 640 MB of Memory, and the HD 2900XT has 512 MB, which tells us that more Memory shouldn't play a big part in a GPU even in today's games. Well that's great, but unfortunately the XT will be out of my budget range, so I will wait for the HD 2900XL, anyone know when that version will be unveiled ?

I really wouldnt even bother with these numbers. The games they used, are not typical games that benefit from more memory. Especially at only 1280x1024. These cards need 1600x1200+ to be pushed, and not CPU dependent. Along with AA/AF added on.

While its nice to see some numbers, dont spend too much time pondering over them. Real reviews should be soon enough. Hopefully with some IQ shots, and numbers ran with HQ enabled.

 

[Zenoth]

Originally posted by: Reikon
What I really want to see is ATI's response to the 8800 GTS 320 MB version i.e. their $250-300 price range card. Ugh, it's yet another waiting game...

Oh, well I guess that the HD 2900XL will be the competitor to the 8800GTS 320 MB version. Or else I wouldn't see any other ATi R600 product compete with it, unless ATi plans to release yet another "lower" R600 card, one below the XL variant ?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Can we see how it compares to the GTX? Thats what really interests me.
I already know the 3DMarks will be close because I've seen some for a similarly-equipped system with a GTX...

For that we have to wait for the XTX, not the XT

We might not have to wait all that long...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?n...=131535&threshhold=-1&red=493#comments

 

[SonicIce]

All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

http://i14.tinypic.com/2qsmjpw.jpg


yep (my ss)

 

[Matt2]

The results look OK.

There is absolutely no reason to get your panties wet over leaked benchmarks that were only run at 1280x1024.

I was personally expecting it to shatter G80, but I guess this will have to do.

 

[nZone]

Can't compare newer technology (R600 as of now on paper) to older technology (8800 since October 2006).

It's like AMD and Intel all over again. Before was FX/X2 whip-this-whip-that-intel-xss but then c2d comes along; c2d whip-this-whip-that-amd-xss. Kind of strange we've got bandwagon line up waiting for the next best thing.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

Yeah, the only thing the R600 really offers as "new" is the ability to output sound over HDMI, and I suspect that level of support will be vendor and application specific. I haven't seen any indication its going to be a complete sound solution for the PC. Any card that can display 1920x1200 can play 1080p video, the G84 fully decodes HD same as the R600 and the G80 offloads enough decoding for it to be a non-issue for any recent CPU. A step in the right direction with the full HDMI implementation, but not something I would've waited 6 months for.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Matt2
The results look OK.

There is absolutely no reason to get your panties wet over leaked benchmarks that were only run at 1280x1024.

I was personally expecting it to shatter G80, but I guess this will have to do.

Actually, you said "more than likely AMD is about to be embarrassed." a few days ago. Flip-flop.

You're right about one thing, as I and others have said, there is no point in getting excited or down about these numbers. This review, is pretty bad. But its something.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

Yeah, the only thing the R600 really offers as "new" is the ability to output sound over HDMI, and I suspect that level of support will be vendor and application specific. I haven't seen any indication its going to be a complete sound solution for the PC. Any card that can display 1920x1200 can play 1080p video, the G84 fully decodes HD same as the R600 and the G80 offloads enough decoding for it to be a non-issue for any recent CPU. A step in the right direction with the full HDMI implementation, but not something I would've waited 6 months for.

R600 also has onboard physics.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Matt2
The results look OK.

There is absolutely no reason to get your panties wet over leaked benchmarks that were only run at 1280x1024.

I was personally expecting it to shatter G80, but I guess this will have to do.

Actually, you said "more than likely AMD is about to be embarrassed." a few days ago. Flip-flop.

You're right about one thing, as I and others have said, there is no point in getting excited or down about these numbers. This review, is pretty bad. But its something.

Ha. My personal beliefs about AMD getting embarrassed has nothing to do with the fact that I always thought R600 should be the better performer. I mean, look at the paper specs. There is absolutely no reason why the R600 shouldnt poop on G80's face.

The reason I think AMD is going to be embarrassed is the fact that they made us wait seven months for what? 10-20% performance increase? HDMI?

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

Yeah, the only thing the R600 really offers as "new" is the ability to output sound over HDMI, and I suspect that level of support will be vendor and application specific. I haven't seen any indication its going to be a complete sound solution for the PC. Any card that can display 1920x1200 can play 1080p video, the G84 fully decodes HD same as the R600 and the G80 offloads enough decoding for it to be a non-issue for any recent CPU. A step in the right direction with the full HDMI implementation, but not something I would've waited 6 months for.

R600 also has onboard physics.

8800 can do physics too

 

[yacoub]

Give me 512-bit bus, 512MB of GDDR3, 128 stream processors, give it a nice quiet fan design and don't clock so high it melts the sun, and I'd pay maybe $350 for it and we'd have a deal.
And I don't care if it's NVidia or ATi.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: SonicIce
All those delays for a 20-30% boost.

Not really. Ability to play 1080p video, AA+HDR, onboard sound...so on and so forth.

I have the impression the R600 is going to knock people's socks off. It's a product for the consumer, not just gamers.

Just so you know 8800 can do HDR+AA too

Yeah, the only thing the R600 really offers as "new" is the ability to output sound over HDMI, and I suspect that level of support will be vendor and application specific. I haven't seen any indication its going to be a complete sound solution for the PC. Any card that can display 1920x1200 can play 1080p video, the G84 fully decodes HD same as the R600 and the G80 offloads enough decoding for it to be a non-issue for any recent CPU. A step in the right direction with the full HDMI implementation, but not something I would've waited 6 months for.

R600 also has onboard physics.

G80 does physics too... a half year before R600 was even completed and released... :laugh:

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
R600 also has onboard physics.

G80 does physics too... a half year before R600 was even completed and released... :laugh:

Yeah yeah... and before that Ati was doing physics with the r580, and I'm sure I remember Nv mentioning physics on the 7-series. In fact, my SB Audigy can do physics too... there's just no SW to use that functionality. :shocked:

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
R600 also has onboard physics.

G80 does physics too... a half year before R600 was even completed and released... :laugh:

Yeah yeah... and before that Ati was doing physics with the r580, and I'm sure I remember Nv mentioning physics on the 7-series. In fact, my SB Audigy can do physics too... there's just no SW to use that functionality. :shocked:

Speaking of which, anyone heard about AgeiaFX lately? Seems it was a complete flop heh?

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Matt2
The results look OK.

There is absolutely no reason to get your panties wet over leaked benchmarks that were only run at 1280x1024.

I was personally expecting it to shatter G80, but I guess this will have to do.

Actually, you said "more than likely AMD is about to be embarrassed." a few days ago. Flip-flop.

You're right about one thing, as I and others have said, there is no point in getting excited or down about these numbers. This review, is pretty bad. But its something.

Ha. My personal beliefs about AMD getting embarrassed has nothing to do with the fact that I always thought R600 should be the better performer. I mean, look at the paper specs. There is absolutely no reason why the R600 shouldnt poop on G80's face.

The reason I think AMD is going to be embarrassed is the fact that they made us wait seven months for what? 10-20% performance increase? HDMI?

Thats not the story you had in the past. You've claimed it wouldnt be faster, now you claim you always thought it would be. Just stick to one already.