first ipad reviews are in...

[Pliablemoose]

In what way? If you work in a technical field the hardware won't be up to the software. If you work in a manual field the device is too fragile. Panasonic Toughbook it is not.

Those of us in non tech jobs have tons of forms to complete, many have been ported to the computer, but I have to drag this massive POS around after me...

In my work areas they take up valuable floor space.

 

[Fox5]

Those of us in non tech jobs have tons of forms to complete, many have been ported to the computer, but I have to drag this massive POS around after me...

In my work areas they take up valuable floor space.

Well, it'll never break as long as it's attached to that stand.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Those of us in non tech jobs have tons of forms to complete, many have been ported to the computer, but I have to drag this massive POS around after me...

In my work areas they take up valuable floor space.

Again, the iPad will be no match for your work environment. Why do you think there's a toughbook on top of that monstrosity?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Again, the iPad will be no match for your work environment. Why do you think there's a toughbook on top of that monstrosity?

My company already bought a shitload of iPads... Theyve been working with Apple to implement them in the workplace, with the right case, they'll do fine.

The doctors are demanding them, the interface works through a browser, so there's no coding involved...

I guess the thing is, when quantum change comes around, you get drug into the mess whether you want to or not...

A WiFi iPad for $500 versus a >$3K computer on wheels, you tell me what my company will do... At least, thats what the IT guys are saying...

 

[DivideBYZero]

Cool, keep us updated!

 

[QueBert]

Apple sack riding at it's finest.

My cheap as shit Netbook has an LED backlit display. And it can multitask, and has a multi touch mouse pad. I guess you'll need to have an IPS on the iPad, because it will be impossible to have it at a comfortable angle otherwise as it will just lie flat, unlike my C.A.S. Netbook that has a convenient screen I can angle anyway I want for maximum comfort.

Have fun holding your iPad at an angle for 90 minutes to watch a movie.

But hey, you'll look cool in Starbucks.

Actually the iPad has an IPS screen, I forgot to mention that, show me a sub $500 laptop that has a IPS LED screen. There isn't a laptop for close to the price that has this nice of a screen, not apple sack riding at all. I work on Laptops every day, while I haven't seen an iPad in person, I know what an IPS LED screen looks like. And you're not going to find that on any sort of budget laptop with maybe the exception of the T60.

 

[Deeko]

Dont you have an iPod Touch and have it extensively modded into your car?

I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with anything? Believe it or not, I know its rare, but you can own one or maybe even two Apple products and not be a ridiculous fanboy. And you can still comment when a fanboy says something, well, fanboyish.

 

[Fingolfin269]

My company already bought a shitload of iPads... Theyve been working with Apple to implement them in the workplace, with the right case, they'll do fine.

Wow, I'm shocked that anyone's IT actually adopted a hardware/software (non-proprietary) solution like this that has never even hit the shelves. Hell we're still using Windows XP SP2 at work.

I hope this doesn't backfire on you guys.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Wow, I'm shocked that anyone's IT actually adopted a hardware solution like this that has never even hit the shelves. Hell we're still using Windows XP SP2 at work.

I hope this doesn't backfire on you guys.

The iPad is the sort of device that prompts people to make major changes to their workflow in order to accommodate it, rather than the other way around. Some people want one so bad they are willing to work around all of its shortcomings just so they can have one. I guess that could be a good or a bad thing, depending on how many compromises and inconsistencies you already have in your current workflow.

On the other hand, the iPad is so simple I can see the appeal it would have for IT guys who complain about "lusers" and for people like doctors who are under a lot of stress from their jobs without having to worry about computer issues.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Actually the iPad has an IPS screen, I forgot to mention that, show me a sub $500 laptop that has a IPS LED screen. There isn't a laptop for close to the price that has this nice of a screen, not apple sack riding at all. I work on Laptops every day, while I haven't seen an iPad in person, I know what an IPS LED screen looks like. And you're not going to find that on any sort of budget laptop with maybe the exception of the T60.

I know it's IPS, but I said it will NEED to be, i.e., it couldn't be anything else as it has crappy angle issues. No laptop comes without a screen you can't angle to suit, so the requirement for IPS on a laptop is 99 times out of a 100 unnecessary.

 

[Gooberlx2]

so the requirement for IPS on a laptop is 99 times out of a 100 unnecessary.

Bah, I would argue IPS is always necessary and should be standard. But narrow viewing angles really piss me off.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with anything? Believe it or not, I know its rare, but you can own one or maybe even two Apple products and not be a ridiculous fanboy. And you can still comment when a fanboy says something, well, fanboyish.

To be fair to the Moose he knows me well and likes to josh with me in regard to Apple.

My car system HAD to be Apple because of the ubiquity of integration. The 3rd Party unit for BMW audio systems only supports iPod as it actually utilizes an Alpine KCA-420i and interfaces between that and the BMW Network Protocol, so that's what I use.

 

[zerocool84]

Actually the iPad has an IPS screen, I forgot to mention that, show me a sub $500 laptop that has a IPS LED screen. There isn't a laptop for close to the price that has this nice of a screen, not apple sack riding at all. I work on Laptops every day, while I haven't seen an iPad in person, I know what an IPS LED screen looks like. And you're not going to find that on any sort of budget laptop with maybe the exception of the T60.

They gave up resolution for a nicer screen. Seems stupid to me.

Also how can anyone be truly productive with it? If you need to type anything longer than a sentence you need to buy a keyboard. Want to hook it up to a tv? Oh you have to purchase another expensive add-on which will still be crappy resolution. Want to hook up an SD card to it? Need to buy another accessory. NO USB PORTS AT ALL. Yea how awesome and innovative. No drag and drop file management. You’ll be downloading content from the web and through the iTunes content store directly from the device, of course, but what about that set of files you just brought home from work or that collection of videos you want to pull out from an old backup drive? In order to get them over to the iPad, you'd have to first dump them into iTunes, then perform a sync operation instead of being able to simply drag and drop them over Wi-Fi or simply hook them in via USB Mass Storage (a great standard that’s been around forever!). There are third-party iPhone apps that allow file transfer via Wi-Fi, but how many steps are we needlessly adding to a process that was uncomplicated by USB Mass Storage years ago? Also very innovative cus it's Apple. No camera really??? A $300 laptop has that. No widescreen resolution which Apple has been touting for years as the next big thing. Having to convert 1080p content to be able to play on the device. Hey I'm not the one saying this is an all in one device to replace the other computers in my house. You guys are. I didn't even mention multitasking and no flash either. Damn this thing just sounds so innovative.

 

[dwell]

Also how can anyone be truly productive with it? If you need to type anything longer than a sentence you need to buy a keyboard. Want to hook it up to a tv? Oh you have to purchase another expensive add-on which will still be crappy resolution. Want to hook up an SD card to it? Need to buy another accessory. NO USB PORTS AT ALL.

This is where geeks consistently miss the mark and Apple gets it right time and time again. It's a content consumption device, not a computer. Important distinction.

There's no need for a physical keyboard because you're not going to buy one to do a lot of typing on it (if you really want one it supports BT). You don't need USB because you're not hooking devices up to it because it is a device itself. It doesn't need HDMI, SD, hard disk, USB mass storage, etc. because those are superfluous features that people don't need on this class of device.

If you want a geeked out device get an HP Slate, or any of the Linux tablets. You're either not the target audience for this device or you just don't understand what it's intended for.

 

[zerocool84]

This is where geeks consistently miss the mark and Apple gets it right time and time again. It's a content consumption device, not a computer. Important distinction.

There's no need for a physical keyboard because you're not going to buy one to do a lot of typing on it (if you really want one it supports BT). You don't need USB because you're not hooking devices up to it because it is a device itself. It doesn't need HDMI, SD, hard disk, USB mass storage, etc. because those are superfluous features that people don't need on this class of device.

If you want a geeked out device get an HP Slate, or any of the Linux tablets. You're either not the target audience for this device or you just don't understand what it's intended for.

I'm not the one touting it as replacing computers and other devices in their house. Without things like that it's not going to do that any time soon. Plain and simple.

 

[senseamp]

This is where geeks consistently miss the mark and Apple gets it right time and time again. It's a content consumption device, not a computer. Important distinction.

There's no need for a physical keyboard because you're not going to buy one to do a lot of typing on it (if you really want one it supports BT). You don't need USB because you're not hooking devices up to it because it is a device itself. It doesn't need HDMI, SD, hard disk, USB mass storage, etc. because those are superfluous features that people don't need on this class of device.

If you want a geeked out device get an HP Slate, or any of the Linux tablets. You're either not the target audience for this device or you just don't understand what it's intended for.

What if you want to consume content from your digital camera?

 

[Deeko]

What if you want to consume content from your digital camera?

Or consume emails, and then reply to them...

Or consume reviews on a restaurant website, and then write their own...

Or send instant messages while browsing....

Or consuming a textbook (textiBook?) and make notes on it....

Typing is one thing that the average consumer, not just the techie nerd, does a LOT of when they're on a computer-type device.

If Apple didn't expect you to type on this device they wouldn't have built (and showed off) a revamped version of iWork. You can attempt to argue that touch screens are ok to type on, but to claim its ok because no one will type on the iPad, that's just inane.

 

[TheWart]

What if you want to consume content from your digital camera?

Look at your pics with the flikr app that your EyeFi put online.

 

[Muadib]

Or consume emails, and then reply to them...

Or consume reviews on a restaurant website, and then write their own...

Or send instant messages while browsing....

Or consuming a textbook (textiBook?) and make notes on it....

Typing is one thing that the average consumer, not just the techie nerd, does a LOT of when they're on a computer-type device.

If Apple didn't expect you to type on this device they wouldn't have built (and showed off) a revamped version of iWork. You can attempt to argue that touch screens are ok to type on, but to claim its ok because no one will type on the iPad, that's just inane.

I gotta agree 100% in regards to typing. They had one on the news this morning, and that was the first thing they commented on. It was quite funny watching the guy trying to hold it & type, and just got worst when he sat it down.

 

[senseamp]

Or consume emails, and then reply to them...

Or consume reviews on a restaurant website, and then write their own...

Or send instant messages while browsing....

Or consuming a textbook (textiBook?) and make notes on it....

Typing is one thing that the average consumer, not just the techie nerd, does a LOT of when they're on a computer-type device.

If Apple didn't expect you to type on this device they wouldn't have built (and showed off) a revamped version of iWork. You can attempt to argue that touch screens are ok to type on, but to claim its ok because no one will type on the iPad, that's just inane.

Well, at least it has a soft keyboard. But if you are on vacation and want to be able to move pics from your camera SD card, gotta bring laptop anyways. So iPad is kind of redundant at this point.

 

[dwell]

Or consume emails, and then reply to them...

Or consume reviews on a restaurant website, and then write their own...

Or send instant messages while browsing....

Or consuming a textbook (textiBook?) and make notes on it....

Typing is one thing that the average consumer, not just the techie nerd, does a LOT of when they're on a computer-type device.

If Apple didn't expect you to type on this device they wouldn't have built (and showed off) a revamped version of iWork. You can attempt to argue that touch screens are ok to type on, but to claim its ok because no one will type on the iPad, that's just inane.

Do you really think an onscreen keyboard can't be used for any of the above? I've been doing most of that on my iPod Touch for a long time and it's a much smaller screen. It's not like anyone is going to type their thesis on an iPad. No different than the cramped keyboards on most netbooks. I have an Eee PC 901 that's almost useless when it comes to typing.

 

[dwell]

What if you want to consume content from your digital camera?

Sure. Let's throw iPhoto on there too so you can edit them, and printer drivers so you can print them. They had to draw the line somewhere. It's not a computer replacement.

 

[QueBert]

This is where geeks consistently miss the mark and Apple gets it right time and time again. It's a content consumption device, not a computer. Important distinction.

There's no need for a physical keyboard because you're not going to buy one to do a lot of typing on it (if you really want one it supports BT). You don't need USB because you're not hooking devices up to it because it is a device itself. It doesn't need HDMI, SD, hard disk, USB mass storage, etc. because those are superfluous features that people don't need on this class of device.

If you want a geeked out device get an HP Slate, or any of the Linux tablets. You're either not the target audience for this device or you just don't understand what it's intended for.

Actually many people will do a great deal of typing on it, but if the TWiT review on it was accurate it's wonderful to type on. The dude really raved about how much he ended up liking the keyboard after using it for a short while. Since the TWiT video was close to 2 hours they were pretty through about it. They showed the guy typing on the keyboard and it looks very usable. Not as good as an actual keyboard, but I could see myself easily typing up a 2-3 page document on it. As it is I peck with 3 fingers when I type so it wouldn't be a big difference over a normal keyboard for me *shrug*

 

[alkemyst]

Or consume emails, and then reply to them...

Or consume reviews on a restaurant website, and then write their own...

Or send instant messages while browsing....

Or consuming a textbook (textiBook?) and make notes on it....

Typing is one thing that the average consumer, not just the techie nerd, does a LOT of when they're on a computer-type device.

If Apple didn't expect you to type on this device they wouldn't have built (and showed off) a revamped version of iWork. You can attempt to argue that touch screens are ok to type on, but to claim its ok because no one will type on the iPad, that's just inane.

*sigh* many do all these things on just 'phones'.

I am in supporting business after hours. If I can read the whole fucking email in one shot without moving from my phone to my laptop it's going to be worth it around the couch at night or while at the dog park or while working on my own projects.

For people that do nothing, an iPad is a waste. For people that want a PC, an iPad is a waste.

 

[Deeko]

Do you really think an onscreen keyboard can't be used for any of the above? I've been doing most of that on my iPod Touch for a long time and it's a much smaller screen. It's not like anyone is going to type their thesis on an iPad. No different than the cramped keyboards on most netbooks. I have an Eee PC 901 that's almost useless when it comes to typing.

It *can* but not nearly as easily as on a real keyboard. I was mostly responding to you stating that the keyboard doesn't really matter because people won't be doing much typing on it. Conversely, I think a lot of typing will be done on it. And while I haven't used the iPad keyboard so I can't directly comment on it, from the looks of it, I think I'd prefer the soft keyboard on a cell phone than the iPad's.