First OC What do you think

Indred

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OK here it is my first GOOD oc.
My system is in my sig so there is that now what settings I have it set to.
OC Pic
HTT multi X3 and CPU multi X9
The mem divider i have to set in sys tool because its the best setting. I need to work and see if i can set this in my bios now. I had problems getting over 150 but i changed some of the mem timmings. I'm open for advise and suggestions but please keep in mind i'm still very new to oc. Thanks.
 

stevty2889

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Not bad at all, but why in the world would you have a pair of SATA II hard drives in raid-0, yet only have 512mb of ram??
 

Indred

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well i had a gig of ram but i couldn't get 1T on my ram pluse it wouldn't let me over clock at all like i got to 215 and that was it
 

mUcHiLuS

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always try to reach the most close to 1000mhz htt. for example is you use 250mhz bus by multiplier to 4 you'll had. 1000, but if you use 240 x 3htt you'll have of system bus 720. so be very clear with the htt and bus frequency.
 

Indred

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I was carefull not to go over 1000 on the HTT. I'm about to start looking and doing some math and see if i drop my cpu multi down if that will give me any options from 9 to 8 that is. Not sure just an idea.
 

Doctorweir

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As you have the A8N, I can give you a hand with the math.
I wanted to clarify the divider stuf, so I prepared an Excel sheet that does the math for me
Your HT-Multi of 3 is fine with the 284 HT...no room for 4x
Hmm...interesting it divides by 12 for your mem...
 

imported_Truenofan

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i need some help on oc'ing as well, i got a winchester 3500 with a msi neo4 platinum and i cant get the thing to oc over 120mhz. i got geil ddr400 hyperx 2.2.2.5cas. seasonic s12-500w psu. so i got ample power to work with, i just cant get it to oc.
 

Indred

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are you trying to do it in windows or bios? If in windows what programs are you using? And what have you tried so far.

Originally posted by: Doctorweir
As you have the A8N, I can give you a hand with the math.
I wanted to clarify the divider stuf, so I prepared an Excel sheet that does the math for me
Your HT-Multi of 3 is fine with the 284 HT...no room for 4x
Hmm...interesting it divides by 12 for your mem...

Its actually an ABIT AN8 not the A8N built by asus i think *shrug* I will try that excell spread sheet thanks. Always looking for more help.
 

crazylegs

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nice OC buddy

soon as my HD is bk from its RMA (which it has promptly failed !!!) cant wait to oc my AMD64 3000+ Venice

EDIT: gonna be all on stock but stilll.... should be OK
 

Indred

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UPdate - I've changed my settings HTT multi=3 (same as before), CPU multi x8, HTT = 325,
which equals 325x8=2604mhz off stock HSF

SysFan currently reports cpu temp of 46c whild running Prime95 (for like 45min now) I've never seen it over 47C

The only thing i just noticed is that the temp reported by sysfan might not be so close to my temp reported in my bios i know there can be some varritions in it but Bios was reporting 36c idle and i loaded windows SysFan was reporting like 29c big diff at this point i'm just going with relitave temps as i'm gonna try and go Water Cooling soon. (month or so) I might be able to get some more out of this now but i'm not sure will keep yall posted.

EDIT: O yeah the other thing is my mem devider LOL kida important its 3:2 ie 133Mhz which is origanlley DDR400.

 

Indred

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
can someone help me in my oc, id like to get faster tooooo -_-

Well we need some information first IE
CPU Multi HTT Multi CPU Clock speed.
If you followed the guides you should have your
1. CPU Max (XXXXmhz)
2. Mem Max (232mhz is mine)
3. board max
combine that and start playing with numbers.
 

Indred

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OK another update i cant get it over 2600mhz. I have CPU multi @ 8 and HTT multi @ 3 and HTT set at 324. I uped Mem and CPU. Mem def is 2.6 its at 2.65v cpu is at 1.47 according to SpeedFan. Bios is like 1.425 so i don't know if its speedfan over reading or board over volting. (i think its the board i checked it in the bios and it says the current voltage for cpu is 1.454) way over 1.425 *shrug* it read ram voltage is at 2.67 not 2.65 so thats not to far off. Ideas??? did i reach my max? It locks up like have to press reset button. I know this usualy means mem issues but i am pretty sure my max mem is 232mhz area i was at 217 i think well i was not close to it. HELP PLEASE.
 

Indred

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ok so basicly you have done NO overclocking on it yet. Try reading one of the how-to's for starters. That is how i got this far. Let me know if you have any questions.
 

imported_Truenofan

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i'v looked at em, i cant even find the friggin multiplier for the cpu, all it gives me is ht, cpu speed, ram speed, voltages n stuff, no multiplier for the cpu. i know its running at 11x multiplier with 200mhz, 2.2ghz, but it wont let me set the multiplier, i looked in the ram setting area, nothing, i looked in the cell area where it lets me set the ht n everthing, but no multiplier.
 

1Dark1Sharigan1

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
i'v looked at em, i cant even find the friggin multiplier for the cpu, all it gives me is ht, cpu speed, ram speed, voltages n stuff, no multiplier for the cpu. i know its running at 11x multiplier with 200mhz, 2.2ghz, but it wont let me set the multiplier, i looked in the ram setting area, nothing, i looked in the cell area where it lets me set the ht n everthing, but no multiplier.

What? In the Pheonix BIOS The CPU mulitplier should be right underneath "Cool & Quiet." and right above CPU vcore. It's called "Adjust CPU Ratio"
 

Indred

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
i was working on it, even with the ht down to 3, i cant get it over 220. i think it might be my ram. whats some good oc ram.

If your maxing out your ram then its time to use a devider. IE if you are using DDR400 then drop it down to DDR333 or DDR366. Then you have more room to OC it back up to 200mhz.
 

imported_Truenofan

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i did that, i brought it down to 133, but it wont let me over 220, i even brough the multiplier down to 8x but still wont let it over 220.
 

Indred

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
i'v looked at em, i cant even find the friggin multiplier for the cpu, all it gives me is ht, cpu speed, ram speed, voltages n stuff, no multiplier for the cpu. i know its running at 11x multiplier with 200mhz, 2.2ghz, but it wont let me set the multiplier, i looked in the ram setting area, nothing, i looked in the cell area where it lets me set the ht n everthing, but no multiplier.


OK. I will try a bit more of a step by step. Do not feel bad I was lost the first few times I was doing it. I am at a bit of a loss for your system as I am still new. OK Now for every one that has more experience please correct me as I have said many times before I am still new.

And just so you know as always OC?ing your computer VOIDS warranties as well as ability to RMA a product. I am not responsible for what might happen period. You are usually safe with just normal OC off stock voltages but do not come telling me I am responsible for replacing any thing. YOU DID IT YOU PAY FOR IT. Remember the rule of thumb if you cant afford to replace it then don?t mess with it.

#1. You need to identify and find all of your settings listed bellow.
-CPU Multi usually between 8-12
-HTT speed Default is 200 MHz
-HTT multi usually between 3-5max
-Memory speed IE DDR400, DDR366, and DDR333... Might be listed as PC3200 or some thing like that as well.
-Memory Divider: some MOBO's will have this listed, some will have it just like above. Do not get swamped in this. Its easer then what is usually thought of. All it is is just setting your memory to a slower speed then what it was designed.
Example I have Kingston DDR400 AKA PC3200, My memory divider is 3:2 which is actually 133MHZ. Before you jump to conclusions, I have my CPU multi at 8 and HTT set to 325MHZ which equals 2604 MHz total. From 1.8 GHz stock to 2.604 GHz OC that is not bad but if, you go back and look at how fast my memory is running. Its running at 216.96 MHz My max is 232 MHz for ram. Therefore, I am not over it. However, if I had DDR400 (200MHz stock) I would be way over and never be able to let my ram run that fast. The other thing to worry about is how fast your HTT is running at. Look at your HTT multi and your HTT. Do HTT x HTT multi (i.e. for me 325x3=975) my max is 1000MHz HTT DON?T GO OVER YOUR MAX!!! If your max multi is 4 then your max HTT is 800. If you go over you will start to corrupt your windows installation and you get to format not fun.
-Memory Timings: This is where you can set the individual timings of your memory. You will have many different settings that all vary depending on your bios. Most common would be some thing along the lines of CAS, Ras-to-Cas, RAS-pre-charge, Command Rate, and stuff like that. Like I said I do not know much about this so I will let some one else answer more in depth on that if it comes to it.

#2. Ok if and only if you have found all of those settings, we can begin. If you were unable to find some of the settings above it will be very very difficult to get much results over 220mhz or possibly 230mhz depending on your ram (from my experience as a N00b again) But if you have found those settings we can begin. First, lower your Memory Divider down one and HTT multi down one. You need to do this in the BIOS for best results. Now I go from that into windows and use SYS Tool (or any other program that does the same thing) from here. In addition, you need to get some thing like Speed fan or MBM5 to monitor your temps. Now with SYS Tool start upping your speed SYS Tool has a feature that will do it for you. Try using 8million to start, Also you need to figure out if your max HTT is 800 MHz then you need to not let it go over. i.e. if your max HTT is 800 and your HTT multi is 3 then don?t go over 266. (800 / 3 = 266) set that as your max and click find max. Make sure you clicked stop on errors. If it finds errors then it is a good idea to download Prime95. Run it and see if you get errors as well. If you find no errors then good you need to drop your HTT Multi down one more and do the math ( HTT multi / 800 = max MHz) input that as your max and find next. This is probably as far as you can go. Run Prime95 for as 24 hours and see if you get any errors if not you are considered stable. Run some bench marks and any other stress test and see if you get any errors on it. If you are not satisfied, on what speed you get you can try to up the voltages (very small amounts at a time!!!) The only other thing I might have forgotten to mention is your memory timings. By changing your memory divider, it usually will change your settings. I had this problem and the way I know how to fix it is to make it your default and write down all the settings (CAS, RAS to CAS, etc) and then set it to your divider you wish. If you cant get any further see if you can drop your memory divider more. This is a quick and simple way, and there are more things you could do to increase your OC but this will get you started.
 

imported_Truenofan

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amd athlon winchester 3500 2.2ghz
2gb geil 2.2.2.5 cas ddr400, 4 sticks 512 matching hyperX
msi neo4 platinum nforce4 ultra
700~gigs of drive space.
and the rest is in my signature. pretty much all my system specs are in my signature.
everything is running at stock voltages and stock speeds.
 

Indred

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ok try what i mentioned above mostly the ram settings even if i changed the mem devider. Change the timmings as well write them down as your DDR400 and then set it to DDR333 or DDR366 and manuly put the timmings in there and see if it works.

Any more feed back as far as my OC?
 
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