FIRST OFFICIAL DX10 GAME DEMO OUT

[mylok]

vista ultimate (d3d10 demo)
x2 4400 @ 2.6Ghz
3GB RAM
EVGA 8800GTS stock

all settings at default except res. @ 1600x1200
avg cave 35
avg snow 25

 

[Raider1284]

a single dx10 screenshot hasnt been posted?!?! cmon you guys with the dx10 hardware post some graphically amazing screenshots asap!

 

[ImDonly1]

Shouldn't you be using the DX10 version of the game since you have Vista Tabby?
I think the link was posted on the first page, or google the name of the dll if the link does not work.

Link

 

[MadBoris]

For anybody having dll errors or dx errors...

You must install the latest directx9 (April 2007). This is the cost of keeping downloads small, instead people get errors when not using latest DX.

Even if your on Vista and DX10 - You must install latest DX9. Yes you heard me the dx10 app on Vista needs certain DX9 modules like x3input1_3.dll.

 

[CP5670]

What exactly does the DX10 mode do in this game?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: CP5670
What exactly does the DX10 mode do in this game?

it looks like not a while lot that I can see. I don't have DX10 hardware, but I checked it out at a friend's house who has an 8800gts and it really didn't seem different.

What did I not see?

 

[NYHoustonman]

Is there any way to change the resolution without entering the game (found a default.cfg file but it's unreadable)? The stupid game defaults to 1280x720 and apparently that can't be displayed...

 

[MadBoris]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Is there any way to change the resolution without entering the game (found a default.cfg file but it's unreadable)? The stupid game defaults to 1280x720 and apparently that can't be displayed...

Inside the game, goto video, change the resolution. Also make sure you turn fullscreen on. Then save it and you should be fine.

It had me looking for a cfg for a while till I figured it out.

I would take some screenshots but Fraps apparently doesn't work with DX10 yet.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Is there any way to change the resolution without entering the game (found a default.cfg file but it's unreadable)? The stupid game defaults to 1280x720 and apparently that can't be displayed...

Inside the game, goto video, change the resolution. Also make sure you turn fullscreen on. Then save it and you should be fine.

It had me looking for a cfg for a while till I figured it out.

I would take some screenshots but Fraps apparently doesn't work with DX10 yet.

I can't get into the game in the first place :x.

 

[MadBoris]

First time I played it on Dx10, I cranked up all the settings to full, then took about ten steps in the first level and the game was chugging hard, then a message popped up and said the system settings were too aggressive for my poor little machine.

Here is my DX10 performance in the game:

C2D 6300 @ 3GHZ
Geforce 8800GTS @ 580/980

Driver settings: (158.42)
High quality textures
vsynch on
AA and AF app controlled.

In game settings:
1920x1200
8x AF
No AA
HDR - medium
Shadow quality - medium
Shadow resolution - default
The rest of the settings on High.

Snow - 30 fps
Cave - 39 fps

It's cool to find a game that can bring my machine to it's knees, hopefully it's not the poor performance of Dx10 doing it.
I'd be interested to hear what people in DX9 are getting with these settings (even though DX10 prolly has more objects).

 

[MadBoris]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
[I can't get into the game in the first place :x.

Did you update latest dx9?

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
[I can't get into the game in the first place :x.

Did you update latest dx9?

I'm running Vista and DX10, had to manually add d3dx10_33.dll as MSUEngineer mentioned above... That took care of that error, but now it gives me an error message that 1280x720 is not supported. Is there maybe some way to add that to the NVidia drivers (I'm using the latest official release), or am I screwed until the demo is patched? WHY would they default to such a resolution anyway?

 

[mcturkey]

Color me unimpressed. Under DX10 with everything maxed out, running at 1600x1000, it averaged 19fps on my system (X2 4400, 8800GTX, 2GB DDR2) with no apparent visual improvement over the 360 version. What DX10 visual effects are in this game that are not available in the DX9 version?

Also, I hope this is not indicative of general DX10 performance in all games. Hopefully the driver situation will be remedied in time for Crysis, because it's looking like I may need to go SLI (in addition to a K10 quad-core as soon as they're available). Sigh. This hobby does get rather expensive.

 

[MadBoris]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
[I can't get into the game in the first place :x.

Did you update latest dx9?

I'm running Vista and DX10, had to manually add d3dx10_33.dll as MSUEngineer mentioned above... That took care of that error, but now it gives me an error message that 1280x720 is not supported. Is there maybe some way to add that to the NVidia drivers (I'm using the latest official release), or am I screwed until the demo is patched? WHY would they default to such a resolution anyway?

You did not read above message, so I will do this for benefit of all:

To all VISTA DX10 USERS: YOU MUST INSTALL LATEST DX9 (April 2007)

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: mcturkey
Color me unimpressed. Under DX10 with everything maxed out, running at 1600x1000, it averaged 19fps on my system (X2 4400, 8800GTX, 2GB DDR2) with no apparent visual improvement over the 360 version. What DX10 visual effects are in this game that are not available in the DX9 version?

Also, I hope this is not indicative of general DX10 performance in all games. Hopefully the driver situation will be remedied in time for Crysis, because it's looking like I may need to go SLI (in addition to a K10 quad-core as soon as they're available). Sigh. This hobby does get rather expensive.

This is my concern too. If the DX10 demos/patches available now are any indication than the highest end hardware will only average somewhere in the neighborhood of ~30fps. That's pathetic and unplayable for most games IMO. That has to change, I can't afford $800 on video cards just to play a handfull of games not to mention a new PSU since my P5B Deluxe can only do crossfire and the 2900xt is too damn power hungry. That would mean that I'd be spending over $1k for just a few games...that's rediculous and out of the question. I sincerely hope that a single card in the range of a 2900xt or 8800gtx can and will handle the new DX10 games.

You could sttribute it to drivers, bad game code, ineffecient use of DX10 in general or whatever you want. I just hope the graphical quality of the real DX10 games doesn't make the game run at 10fps.

I too don't see any difference between DX9 and DX10 of this game except that the DX10 version runs ungodly slow. My friend's 3Ghz C2D with an 8800gts only gets in the range of 25fps give or take.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
[I can't get into the game in the first place :x.

Did you update latest dx9?

I'm running Vista and DX10, had to manually add d3dx10_33.dll as MSUEngineer mentioned above... That took care of that error, but now it gives me an error message that 1280x720 is not supported. Is there maybe some way to add that to the NVidia drivers (I'm using the latest official release), or am I screwed until the demo is patched? WHY would they default to such a resolution anyway?

You did not read above message, so I will do this for benefit of all:

To all VISTA DX10 USERS: YOU MUST INSTALL LATEST DX9 (April 2007)

Again, don't think I'm having any issues with DirectX, it's simply that 1280x720 isn't supported by my monitor (or so Vista thinks) and I can't figure out how to add the resolution support manually or manually change the resolution of the game via config files.

 

[MadBoris]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I too don't see any difference between DX9 and DX10 of this game except that the DX10 version runs ungodly slow.

There has always been this nagging concern that DX10 itself is a bottle of snake oil (all we have had is PR). What if people find out the API isn't really faster due to unforeseen issues, but runs like mollasses in winter.

 

[MadBoris]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Again, don't think I'm having any issues with DirectX, it's simply that 1280x720 isn't supported by my monitor (or so Vista thinks) and I can't figure out how to add the resolution support manually or manually change the resolution of the game via config files.

I would install latest directx.

Do you have the proper monito INF installed or some generic PNP driver installed (that would be bad). People never think monitor drivers are necessary until issues like this arise. The game detects capability of the monitor, while Vista uses the monitor driver info of your monitors capabilities. If you didn't have preoper monitor driver, you will likely have to reinstall the game so it can properly redetect. Beyond that, I don't know.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I too don't see any difference between DX9 and DX10 of this game except that the DX10 version runs ungodly slow.

There has always been this nagging concern that DX10 itself is a bottle of snake oil (all we have had is PR). What if people find out the API isn't really faster due to unforeseen issues, but runs like mollasses in winter.

I just hope there are some graphic features that make it worth it. Right now I don't see it. All these games are DX9 games patched to use DX10 and just run slower

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: MadBoris

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Again, don't think I'm having any issues with DirectX, it's simply that 1280x720 isn't supported by my monitor (or so Vista thinks) and I can't figure out how to add the resolution support manually or manually change the resolution of the game via config files.

I would install latest directx.

Do you have the proper monito INF installed or some generic PNP driver installed (that would be bad). People never think monitor drivers are necessary until issues like this arise. The game detects capability of the monitor, while Vista uses the monitor driver info of your monitors capabilities. If you didn't have preoper monitor driver, you will likely have to reinstall the game so it can properly redetect. Beyond that, I don't know.

Tried installing the latest DirectX, nothing happened - I assume I already updated (and I remember going through it at one point).

I do also have the correct driver installed - but I'm running on an old (6-7 years now? I know, can't wait for my birthday ) 18" LCD, so it may legitimately not support that resolution... turned off scaling, no help. Guess I'll just have to wait :x.

 

[imaheadcase]

I assume this game is multicore friendly right?

 

[rmed64]

Originally posted by: imaheadcase
I assume this game is multicore friendly right?

3600 X2 2.8Ghz
7900GS 586/1600
DX9
Windows XP

dual core
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3354/dualcorelpsw9.png


I decided to see if game is multi threaded by setting affinity to only one core.

single core
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/610/singlelpml4.png

Snow test stayed the same. However, Caves test went down dramatically to only 23 fps. Very interesting indeed.

 

[Tabby]

i got it to work and i didn't get the DX10 cuz 600MB VS 300MB lol

 

[funks]

FX60 at 2.6 (default speed)
8800GTS
DX10
Vista X64 (works fine after installing April 2007 DirectX9 Redist)

at 1280x720 (720p), and disabling Anti-Aliasing (everything else defaults), it's running at 58+ frame per second.

 

[imaheadcase]

The file sizes are roughly the same Tabby...lol