Question First pc build in many many years, wanted to figure out what I am overlooking or generally messing up

[nesplaytoz]

It has been far too long since I have done this, and I keep finding out things that make me feel pretty dumb, so I was hoping someone might be kind enough to take a look at what I am putting together, so that I can figure out why I am dumb much quicker.

• I will be using this pc for streaming console video games, light editing, and general business software, also connecting to a tv
• Budget around the $1100 mark
• I live in the US
• I will be installing windows 10 on the M.2 Drive
• I will re-purpose a graphics card from current pc, not a good one, but I am not playing games so, it probably doesn't matter (unless it does?) also some old harddrives for extra storage.

I have already Bought the case, and I am pretty set on the ryzen cpu, but I am open to just about everything else.

Here are some of my biggest questions:
1. Will the front usb ports from the case work with this motherboard, or do I need a converter?
2.How many fans should I add? should I replace the stock case fans? (I hear good things about Noctua)
3. do m.2 harddrives need a heatsink?
4. what am I not even thinking of?


CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor $339.99

Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $183.99

Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.99
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.99

Storage
Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $81.99

Case
Fractal Design Vector RS Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case $139.99

Power Supply
Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $129.99

OS
Windows 10 home (not sure where to acquire it for a reasonable price)
Total: $1015.93

Link to part picker list

Saved Part Lists

pcpartpicker.com

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Thank you so much, to anyone that looks at all this, I have just gotten a bit out of the loop and want to have fairly decent PC for years to come.

 

[Charlie98]

Here are some of my biggest questions:
1. Will the front usb ports from the case work with this motherboard, or do I need a converter?
2.How many fans should I add? should I replace the stock case fans? (I hear good things about Noctua)
3. do m.2 harddrives need a heatsink?
4. what am I not even thinking of?

Yes, it should have USB headers on the board for both USB2 and USB3.

Just run the stock box to see how your temps turn out. Personally, I don't have a problem with Fractal fans, my cases are full of them, but I have the Define cases... which are pretty quiet anyway.

Under high I/O load an M.2 will benefit from cooling, but in normal desktop use... no. I happen to have that same SN750 SSD and it works swell the way it is. It does run a wee bit hotter than my drives in the cage, but that's normal and nothing to worry about.

Just remember... when you install your OS, have ONLY the OS SSD installed until you are up and running... then install the rest of your drives.

That PSU is probably overkill... you could likely run with something in the 550w range unless you are running benchmarks or mining or something.

 

[Campy]

Do you have a capture card?

 

[nesplaytoz]

Yes, it should have USB headers on the board for both USB2 and USB3.

Just run the stock box to see how your temps turn out. Personally, I don't have a problem with Fractal fans, my cases are full of them, but I have the Define cases... which are pretty quiet anyway.

Under high I/O load an M.2 will benefit from cooling, but in normal desktop use... no. I happen to have that same SN750 SSD and it works swell the way it is. It does run a wee bit hotter than my drives in the cage, but that's normal and nothing to worry about.

Just remember... when you install your OS, have ONLY the OS SSD installed until you are up and running... then install the rest of your drives.

That PSU is probably overkill... you could likely run with something in the 550w range unless you are running benchmarks or mining or something.

Thank you so much for the info.

It's really good to hear you have the same ssd and it doesn't overheat.

The PSU is definitely overkill, but I think its like a $30 savings to go down to the 550 W of the same brand and style, I don't think I will be running any crazy video cards in the future, but for the $30 I figure leave the options open.

Good advice on the OS install, I may well have plugged them all in in advance.

Parting out a new build is just an endless cycle of thinking you have an idea of what you are doing, only to find some bit of minutia that changes everything around.
I really appreciate getting an extra set of eyes on what I am trying to make.

 

[nesplaytoz]

Do you have a capture card?

I do, I have an external one, an elgato hd60, I am almost exclusively capturing nintendo switch and nes games from an analogue nt mini. So I only need 1080p and relatively low frame rate, If I were doing ps4 or xbox one I would definitely grab an internal one that could handle 4k.

great question though, I definitely want to make sure I have everything I will need on day one.
Thanks for putting eyes on the post, I appreciate it.

 

[Flayed]

Make sure the ram you buy is a kit of 2x16GB sticks rather than buying 2 separate 16GB sticks.
You should look for 3600Mhz ram with tight timings for best performance.

 

[nesplaytoz]

Make sure the ram you buy is a kit of 2x16GB sticks rather than buying 2 separate 16GB sticks.
You should look for 3600Mhz ram with tight timings for best performance.

ok, that makes sense, faster ram is better.
This is what I had before
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4-21300)
this is what I am thinking now
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)

Per your advise, it is up to 3600, and I am actually not sure what I am looking for, for timing.
Thanks for the advice, a minor part switch for better performance, that is absolutely what I am looking for with this post.

 

[nesplaytoz]

so, one website gave this as the comparable ram for the motherboard I was going to use.

Compatible RAM Speeds	DDR4 2133 MHz DDR4 2400 MHz DDR4 2666 MHz DDR4 2800 MHz DDR4 3000 MHz DDR4 3200 MHz

and asus gave this
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors
4 x DIMM, Max. 128GB, DDR4 4400(O.C)/3466(O.C.)/3400(O.C.)/3200(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2800(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz Un-buffered Memory

will a 3600 mhz work? I know this is probably a silly question, but I just wanted to make sure before purchasing the ram component.

 

[Markfw]

Yes, I would get 3600 the lowest cl number that fits in the budget.

The PSU, you need 2 8 pins for the motherboard, and this one (an 850) not only has it, but for almost the same price. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CDMZKB5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (and a 10 year warranty)

As for the SSD, I hope it has a heatsink or it WILL overheat. I didn;t see a link. Thei is does, its also a sn750 WD https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250112

Just found the link. It WILL overheat in heavy IO situations, get the one I linked.

And this may be your best bet for memory, but maybe another vendor has it cheaper https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?&quicklink=true

 

[Charlie98]

As for the SSD, I hope it has a heatsink or it WILL overheat.

Why do you say that? Mine doesn't in general PC use, and I think that is the OP's target use. That is not to say a heatsink isn't a bad idea...

Question for you, Mark... at what temp does an M.2 like the SN750 throttle?

 

[Markfw]

Why do you say that? Mine doesn't in general PC use, and I think that is the OP's target use. That is not to say a heatsink isn't a bad idea...

Question for you, Mark... at what temp does an M.2 like the SN750 throttle?

I do DC. It uses a lot of IO, it was running 70c and throttled like mad. I see wide and varied uses for his PC. Hard to tell which might be IO itensive. If it is, it will throttle. I would rather advise him on the safe side, then have him come back asking why its running its slow.

 

[nesplaytoz]

Yes, I would get 3600 the lowest cl number that fits in the budget.

The PSU, you need 2 8 pins for the motherboard, and this one (an 850) not only has it, but for almost the same price. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CDMZKB5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (and a 10 year warranty)

As for the SSD, I hope it has a heatsink or it WILL overheat. I didn;t see a link. Thei is does, its also a sn750 WD https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250112

Just found the link. It WILL overheat in heavy IO situations, get the one I linked.

And this may be your best bet for memory, but maybe another vendor has it cheaper https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?&quicklink=true

@Markfw I have taken your advice in its entirety.
I have purchased all of the components for the new pc, including all three of your suggestions.
Ram seems like a good deal from a top manufacturer at a speed I didn't know I needed.
M.2 SSD, some people say it needs a heat sink, some say it doesn't, no one has ever said it hurts to have one, so I went with the heat sink version you suggested
PSU, evga is solid, 850 is massive overkill for me, but meh, went with it anyway. Newegg had it with a $30 rebate so, for $109 (with rebate) hard to go wrong.

This has been my first post on this platform and everyone has been absolutely stellar. I will make sure to post some pics or a link to a video of the completed build.

I will also happily take anyone's advice regarding putting all this stuff together.

thanks again.

 

[UsandThem]

The Asus motherboard in the OP has a built-in cooler on the 2nd M.2 slot, so that one can be used if temps are too high.

The OP could also buy an after-market NVMe cooler if needed for the 1st slot ($10 - $20). As long as there is decent airflow in the case, nothing extravagant is needed.

 

[Charlie98]

I do DC. It uses a lot of IO, it was running 70c and throttled like mad. I see wide and varied uses for his PC. Hard to tell which might be IO itensive. If it is, it will throttle. I would rather advise him on the safe side, then have him come back asking why its running its slow.

Fair enough.

I know you do a lot of I/O, I got it, so I understand your frame of reference. I've monitored my temps, because I'm curious, and I've not seen mine go above 55C.

 

[Markfw]

Fair enough.

I know you do a lot of I/O, I got it, so I understand your frame of reference. I've monitored my temps, because I'm curious, and I've not seen mine go above 55C.

I mean 2 things have happened since nvme drives came out. They used to never have a heatsink, now a lot of them do. Second, motherboards never had a heatsink for the nvme drive as part of the motherboard, like a lot of them they do now. Those 2 things say "you really need a heatsink on your nvme drive".