First review for Suicide Squad gets a rotten

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Nashemon

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yeah, blockbuster movies supposed to be like 2 hours +
Strange, now it says it's 123 minutes.

Also, I don't complain about any movie being too long, unless it's Watchmen, and it's only longer because they wanted to show more dick imagery.
 

zinfamous

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Strange, now it says it's 123 minutes.

Also, I don't complain about any movie being too long, unless it's Watchmen, and it's only longer because they wanted to show more dick imagery.

lol no. That movie had less than 1 total minute of blue cartoon dick. Talk about missing the forest for the tree (that you seem to have been more interested in than the rest of the flick)

Not by fans. 2.6/10 on metacritic. It sucked balls.

most of those fans never actually saw the movie. So...those ratings mean dick

Surely you jest. TDK was better in every way vs MoS.

lol no. MoS was a superhero movie.

TDK was not.

The villain was better in TDK (which is always the most important thing, true), but that is it; and Michael Shannon as Zod was also quite awesome in his own right. The fact that MoS actually made Superman interesting for the first time ever was a major achievement. Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne or Batman sucked compared to Keaton.
 

SP33Demon

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lol no. That movie had less than 1 total minute of blue cartoon dick. Talk about missing the forest for the tree (that you seem to have been more interested in than the rest of the flick)



most of those fans never actually saw the movie. So...those ratings mean dick



lol no. MoS was a superhero movie.

TDK was not.

The villain was better in TDK (which is always the most important thing, true), but that is it; and Michael Shannon as Zod was also quite awesome in his own right. The fact that MoS actually made Superman interesting for the first time ever was a major achievement. Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne or Batman sucked compared to Keaton.
Yes, I'm sure you can prove they didn't see the movie. :roll:

Metacritic ratings MoS - 55, TDK - 82. TDK had better acting, better action, better story, better set, and better music. I didn't hate MoS but no way does it compare to TDK in 95% of the general populace's book and as the ratings will reflect.
 

smackababy

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Yes, I'm sure you can prove they didn't see the movie. :roll:



Metacritic ratings MoS - 55, TDK - 82. TDK had better acting, better action, better story, better set, and better music. I didn't hate MoS but no way does it compare to TDK in 95% of the general populace's book and as the ratings will reflect.



First off, of course the general populous bought TDK was some kind of massive achievement in cinema. They said the same thing about Avatar. It was bland, generic, and didn't even handle the characters like the comic. Had Heath Ledger not died, it would be mediocre at best. But, like all artists who did, everyone jumps on the "omg they were so great" train. Amy Winehouse is another good example.

Burton's Batman was far better. Man of Steel was fucking phenomenal for the first hour or so (up until he became Superman) then was kind of meh. The story telling and idea that Clark Kent had to struggle with coming to terms with his powers was exceptionally well done. Him making the choice to honor his fathers wish to not have him use his power to save him was better than the entire catalog of Chris "overrated" Nolan.
 

zinfamous

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Yes, I'm sure you can prove they didn't see the movie. :roll:

This is known, dummy, and has been talked about before and since the film's release.

Oh look, your favorite boyfriend (well, when his use of statistics only agrees with what you want him to be telling you) has something to tell you about audience ratings:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...t-example-of-how-internet-ratings-are-broken/

How many of those reviews arrived before the fricking movie was even released to the general public?

The movie isn’t even out in theaters as I’m writing this, but over 12,000 people have made their judgment. Male reviewers outnumber female reviewers nearly 5 to 1 and rate “Ghostbusters” 4 points lower, on average.

wow Sp33dy--you are just willfully dumb.




Metacritic ratings MoS - 55, TDK - 82. TDK had better acting, better action, better story, better set, and better music. I didn't hate MoS but no way does it compare to TDK in 95% of the general populace's book and as the ratings will reflect.

LOL! again, see above. The only better-acted role in TDK was Ledger--that is it and you know it. Caine and Oldman were as good as they always are. Cavill is a far better Supes than Bale ever was for Batman.

the general population also thinks The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest thing ever. Please....
 
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zinfamous

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First off, of course the general populous bought TDK was some kind of massive achievement in cinema. They said the same thing about Avatar. It was bland, generic, and didn't even handle the characters like the comic. Had Heath Ledger not died, it would be mediocre at best. But, like all artists who did, everyone jumps on the "omg they were so great" train. Amy Winehouse is another good example.

Burton's Batman was far better. Man of Steel was fucking phenomenal for the first hour or so (up until he became Superman) then was kind of meh. The story telling and idea that Clark Kent had to struggle with coming to terms with his powers was exceptionally well done. Him making the choice to honor his fathers wish to not have him use his power to save him was better than the entire catalog of Chris "overrated" Nolan.

right--which is why Superman always sucked. That part was messy like every other Superman story, but MoS never tossed in an extra, tangential act with a throwaway villain that became suddenly necessary if but only to drive a single nonsensical cog in an overly-elaborate plotline. Take out The Joker and that film is nothing.

But Zod was as awesome and perfect for MoS as Joker was for TDK.
 

MongGrel

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am I a monster for not having watched heath ledger's Joker? I wanted to see it but his sudden death made it unwatcheable for me.

No, but you missed what probably is the greatest batman movie ever.

I'd still tend to say TDK was the best myself, as far as Batman flicks, but that is just my opinion I guess.

Second greatest, but very good. The greatest:

https://youtu.be/OsJA1C19AyE

I got a kick out of when we went to see TDK at the local draft house cinema, they played the 60's one prior to it.

Was a woman about 75 sitting near us was asking if that was the movie, I just had to smile a bit and explain. She was pretty funny

I really didn't care for Avatar a lot, on a side note.
 
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Eug

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Suicide squad is now exactly 1/3 on RT, but fares even worse with the top critics, at exactly 1/4.

First off, of course the general populous bought TDK was some kind of massive achievement in cinema. They said the same thing about Avatar. It was bland, generic, and didn't even handle the characters like the comic. Had Heath Ledger not died, it would be mediocre at best. But, like all artists who did, everyone jumps on the "omg they were so great" train. Amy Winehouse is another good example.

Burton's Batman was far better. Man of Steel was fucking phenomenal for the first hour or so (up until he became Superman) then was kind of meh. The story telling and idea that Clark Kent had to struggle with coming to terms with his powers was exceptionally well done. Him making the choice to honor his fathers wish to not have him use his power to save him was better than the entire catalog of Chris "overrated" Nolan.
Burton's Batman was fine, but I don't give a rats ass that Nolan's Batman movies didn't stay true to the comics. It's not a comic book. It's a movie.

And Heath Ledger had the best acted villain in recent memory. It was an acting tour de force. TDK was not perfect by any means, but Heath Ledger was just totally awesome in that, perfectly frightening.
 

Ruptga

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You guys didn't actually think it would be good, did you?

I was sure it wouldn't be but I had hoped that it would at least be the fun kind of stupid, like a classic B movie. That hope got pretty small a few months ago though, when I saw how badly it was being overhyped. Some movies are good in spite of a massive hypetrain, but it's never a good sign.
 

HumblePie

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Pretty much a shitty summer for movies this year. When basically best movie of the summer is Finding Dory, you know it wasn't a good summer season. That's not saying there wasn't good movies, but there wasn't any great movies at all. On a scale of 1 to 10, there were a couple of 7's and everything else was below that with the majority of the movies in the 4 and under category. So well below average.

Wife wants to see Pete's Dragon next week, and neither of us wants to see Kubo or anything else out this summer. Basically next movie we are looking forward to then is Rogue One in December.
 

monkeydelmagico

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the general population also thinks The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest thing ever. Please....

Way better than suicide squad apparently. Better off watching re-runs of shawshank or dark knight. In a box. Under a bridge. Hobo bum style.

Take out The Joker and that film is nothing.

herp a derp. Take any main character out of any movie and it is diminished. What good is a hero without a villain? Just some pumped up jock in really tight pants strutting around.....
 

RPD

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This movie looked like shit from the moment I saw the first trailer. Not surprised.
 

Ruptga

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herp a derp. Take any main character out of any movie and it is diminished. What good is a hero without a villain? Just some pumped up jock in really tight pants strutting around.....

In context I took it as implied that Joker would be replaced with some generic filler villain. Like the big bad guy in Thor 2, remember him? That's because he sucked, he never did anything more interesting than leaving a few gaps that your imagination could fill in with something actually good.

If the Joker were forgettable that movie would have just been some mobsters and Batman going around going shopping or whatever and oh by the way here's an interesting Two-Face subplot that really should have been made into the main plot because nothing else worth remembering ever happened. I don't see that as a bad thing though, it was an intentional design choice and it worked.
 
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