First Review of X1950XTX

[Jules]

wheres the reviews at?!!?

 

[Praxis1452]

Shamino took it down cause everyone flamed him. He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working. Check over at Xtremesystems

 

[Kromis]

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

And by the way gersson, here's something to enlighten you:

You can also spell it capisce. And if you really wanna go old school, it's capisci in Italian.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Shadowmage
BTW guys, VR-Zone benchmarks with High Quality, no optimizations. This accounts for the huge drop in NVIDIA scores.

we know . . . finally a fair comparison.

Yep all high end cards should be benched with high quality settings but most sites usually don't go that route which is sad because they're deceiving the people that don't know better.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Kromis
I guess we'll agree to disagree.

And by the way gersson, here's something to enlighten you:

You can also spell it capisce. And if you really wanna go old school, it's capisci in Italian.

Thanks!

>_>

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
wheres the reviews at?!!?

Moved to over here . . . not broken up into pages . . .

'cache' it while you can . . . until the nda gets officially lifted . . . i guess

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: Shadowmage
BTW guys, VR-Zone benchmarks with High Quality, no optimizations. This accounts for the huge drop in NVIDIA scores.

Wouldnt that be NV's problem if they cannot keep their frames up during eye candy modes ? It's not ATI's fault they win with IQ settings, maybe their just better at it.

 

[CKXP]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Shamino took it down cause everyone flamed him. He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working. Check over at Xtremesystems

it seems a VR member with a 7950GX2 got different results(F.E.A.R) with similiar IQ settings...

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=86026&page=3

i'll have to redo all tests , i need to isolate what went wrong first. thx for feedback.
yea like i said i was afraid to put out the review at first, i reran couple times.
but since the date i can publish the review is pushed back quite a bit so i'llredo it and redo the setup. Shamino

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Shamino took it down cause everyone flamed him. He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working. Check over at Xtremesystems

More like ATI made them take it down

The poor dude benchmarked the 7950GX 3 times to check the result , check his post on the forums

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=86026&page=2
read admin's post 23 and 24

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Shamino took it down cause everyone flamed him. He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working. Check over at Xtremesystems

More like ATI made them take it down

The poor dude benchmarked the 7950GX 3 times to check the result , check his post on the forums

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=86026&page=2
read admin's post 23 and 24

it is STILL posted . . . look UP ^ 3 posts

or look down

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/1950/

:roll:

 

[BFG10K]

Remember the days when people like rollo bought a 7800GTX 512MB for $800 and its not even been a year since then

Rollo didn't buy it - the AEG gave him a video card food stamp.

He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working.

I don't think he's made a mistake - I think he doesn't realize the impact of running High Quality on nVidia cards.

In some cases you can lose almost 1/3 of performance.

 

[tuteja1986]

Awesome post BFG10K @ episteme.arstechnica.com

 

[BFG10K]

LOL tuteja, I posted that in the past and you didn't like the article.

I'm glad to see you've changed your mind.

 

[Powermoloch]

Holy cow, the card looks sexy (eyegasms)

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
LOL tuteja, I posted that in the past and you didn't like the article.

I'm glad to see you've changed your mind.

Well when i started reading anandtech Forum , my 1st impression of your Post were Nvidia fanboy but its totally changed over the months. I know totally respect your Opinion , Views and thoughts on GPU.

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Remember the days when people like rollo bought a 7800GTX 512MB for $800 and its not even been a year since then

Rollo didn't buy it - the AEG gave him a video card food stamp.

He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working.

I don't think he's made a mistake - I think he doesn't realize the impact of running High Quality on nVidia cards.

In some cases you can lose almost 1/3 of performance.

I think there is a mistake some where not just with the 7950GX2's not showing good numbers really look at the resolution and settings all of them are low.

Anandtech showed an x1900xt getting 49fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa
Vr-zone showed it an x1900xtx getting 24fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa?

Something is wrong in his bench and it isn't just the 7950GX2 or the NV quality settings. I do like the fact that he is aware of the need to change them to high quality though. I hope he fixes the bench soon.

 

[BFG10K]

vr-zone used soft shadows in Fear but I don't believe Anand did.

Soft shadows have a massive performance hit.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Remember the days when people like rollo bought a 7800GTX 512MB for $800 and its not even been a year since then

Rollo didn't buy it - the AEG gave him a video card food stamp.

He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working.

I don't think he's made a mistake - I think he doesn't realize the impact of running High Quality on nVidia cards.

In some cases you can lose almost 1/3 of performance.

I think there is a mistake some where not just with the 7950GX2's not showing good numbers really look at the resolution and settings all of them are low.

Anandtech showed an x1900xt getting 49fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa
Vr-zone showed it an x1900xtx getting 24fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa?

Something is wrong in his bench and it isn't just the 7950GX2 or the NV quality settings. I do like the fact that he is aware of the need to change them to high quality though. I hope he fixes the bench soon.

Anandtech uses standard settings in the control panel. As far as I know they never turn off opts and run things at high quality, that's why you're seeing low numbers. Basically Shamino benched his stuff correctly, it's sites like AT that do things half assed.

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Remember the days when people like rollo bought a 7800GTX 512MB for $800 and its not even been a year since then

Rollo didn't buy it - the AEG gave him a video card food stamp.

He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working.

I don't think he's made a mistake - I think he doesn't realize the impact of running High Quality on nVidia cards.

In some cases you can lose almost 1/3 of performance.

I think there is a mistake some where not just with the 7950GX2's not showing good numbers really look at the resolution and settings all of them are low.

Anandtech showed an x1900xt getting 49fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa
Vr-zone showed it an x1900xtx getting 24fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa?

Something is wrong in his bench and it isn't just the 7950GX2 or the NV quality settings. I do like the fact that he is aware of the need to change them to high quality though. I hope he fixes the bench soon.

Anandtech uses standard settings in the control panel. As far as I know they never turn off opts and run things at high quality, that's why you're seeing low numbers. Basically Shamino benched his stuff correctly, it's sites like AT that do things half assed.

Those are the ATI x1900's results they don't need their standard settings messed with or opts turned off (they already are). Did you read my post? That's alot of fps to be lossing to settings in a control panel. If Shamino benched his stuff correctly why does he have it down and looking over it again? ...

 

[tuteja1986]

Lets just wait few more days and we will have endless review to compare.

 

[BFG10K]

The endless reviews will no doubt have the same nonsensical scores we've been seeing since the 7xxx cards arrived.

In many ways it's good that Shamino's scores are out first because he's probably going to be one of the few that have done things right.

 

[CKXP]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Remember the days when people like rollo bought a 7800GTX 512MB for $800 and its not even been a year since then

Rollo didn't buy it - the AEG gave him a video card food stamp.

He's trying his best to get the 7950gx2's working.

I don't think he's made a mistake - I think he doesn't realize the impact of running High Quality on nVidia cards.

In some cases you can lose almost 1/3 of performance.

I think there is a mistake some where not just with the 7950GX2's not showing good numbers really look at the resolution and settings all of them are low.

Anandtech showed an x1900xt getting 49fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa
Vr-zone showed it an x1900xtx getting 24fps in Fear @ 1600x1200 4xaa?

Something is wrong in his bench and it isn't just the 7950GX2 or the NV quality settings. I do like the fact that he is aware of the need to change them to high quality though. I hope he fixes the bench soon.

i agree, after visiting the VR forums, a 7950GX2 owner got much migher results than Shamino with identical IQ settings and a slower setup http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=86026&page=3 post #32 also in post #24 Shamino reran the F.E.A.R benchmark with the 7950GX2 and his result's were slightly higher than the benchmark results he posted. finally in post #34 Shamino responds "i'll have to redo all tests , i need to isolate what went wrong first"

edit: i just realized the F.E.A.R benchmark Shamino redid was with no AA

 

[nib95]

I just want to know one ot two things.

Will it perform better then my SLI 7900 GT Voltmoded and OC'd.
And, does the X1950 churn out as much heat and noise as the X1900? Which I returned due to heat issues.

 

[robkas]

these things will go fast if they are $399

 

[dgevert]

Originally posted by: Frackal
Yup, I'm not surprised. I've been saying for awhile that an overclocked x1900xtx might be very close to a 7950GX2 once the quality settings were equalized. We now have a couple reviews showing how good the XTX does against the se cards once quality settings are the same. Damn I'm glad I went with the XTX. Nvidia's gotta fix this crap

I run my 7950GX2 with HQ. HQ on in 3DMark06 got me 2000 more points compared to my X1900XT(X). I'd say that's a pretty BIG increase in performance. It's not something that an increase in memory bandwidth is going to account for. Bottom line is that with HQ on, it doesn't change the fact that going from my OC'ed X1900XT to a 7950GX2 was a HUGE increase for me - afterwards I was able to run several of my games at much higher detail levels. I went from playing FEAR at 1280x800 to 1920x1200.

Some critical thought, that's all I'm asking of you guys.