Well its an prototype from several months ago, AMD showed an properly functioning Kaveri at computex so you guys should not worry about much lower clocks.
I agree with you on this point. A SR core/module that is really "beefed" up is much more important than just having 8 cores. Efficient powerful cores will win the day.If you tally up the rumours you could end up at that conclusion. It's late, there were rumours of cancellations, dropped hexa-cores, die shots etc etc.
Telling for me is that a quad core is replacing an octo-core in the server lineup and there appears to be no octo-core desktop part on the near horizon. I'm not about to predict a huge AMD comeback or that Kaveri will blow away Haswell or anything like that, but the upcoming core is likely to be a lot meatier than Piledriver.
It could have been a FX-8350 + 7750 for all we know.Well its an prototype from several months ago, AMD showed an properly functioning Kaveri at computex so you guys should not worry about much lower clocks.
Seriously who leaks true die photos? What should be the motivation?
Seriously who leaks true die photos? What should be the motivation?
Who leaks benchmarks of ES chips?
The existence of true die photos is a fact of life within the industry. You need those photos to perform certain aspects of day-to-day jobs within the company, the same as needing ES chips.
But eventually someone with questionable morals and ethics, combined with an over-riding ego and narcissistic desire to be Mr. Cool will come upon the die images and decide for themselves that the world needs to see them too.
um if it has not been officially released then it is a leak.Or maybe it was not really leaked...
um if it has not been officially released then it is a leak.
Or it's a fake...
what would that matter though? only a handful of people would even give a crap about this.It could be that or it even could be an orchestrated "leak" to drum up controversy and interest. Look at this post, it's generated 13 pages of responses. Multiply that with all the other forums, blogs etc. and that's free publicity for AMD. Of course that's my conjecture but I thought I'd throw it out.
It could be that or it even could be an orchestrated "leak" to drum up controversy and interest. Look at this post, it's generated 13 pages of responses. Multiply that with all the other forums, blogs etc. and that's free publicity for AMD. Of course that's my conjecture but I thought I'd throw it out.
what would that matter though? only a handful of people would even give a crap about this.
what would that matter though? only a handful of people would even give a crap about this.
AMD would never stoop so low as to have a program that would intentionally attempt to manipulate enthusiasts. Never.
Ok 2nd attempt.
I think most enthusiasts are smart enough to never fall for this kind of thing. These programs are designed to increase mindshare in the blogger/casual community, and as you link shows the guy got slaughtered and clearly didn't have a chance vs a real enthusiast community.
AMD made some things, but I doubt AMD will fall that low as lets say Intel or nVidia at one point. Doubtful, everyone is using tricks but in the end. It all depends on how much dirty are those tricks.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30364913&postcount=280
Actually I said 3 things:
1. Interlagos will perform 50% better than MC in the same thermals
2. IPC would be higher
3. Increase for single-threaded workloads will be "a lot" more than 17%
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Randy Allen said:
ZDNET said:http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/amd-posts-blatantly-deceptive-benchmarks-on-barcelona/567
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I've seen benchmarks get cherry picked and twisted before but this is just outrageous. AMD is deliberately leaving out Intel's best scores, leaving out Intel's best products that shipped months ago, and putting in theoretical Barcelona scores for products that don't even have a ship date. After Henri Richard (AMD executive) came in front of our ZDNet cameras to slam Intel for "un-ethical behavior" and promising not to do the same, we have caught them on four separate occasions behaving unethically. After this latest incident, it's clear that AMD has no intention of behaving honestly or ethically.
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Yes, I guess AMD will *never* fall as lower as Intel and Nvidia. Never. The industry wouldn't be the same without AMD's ethical behavior.
Ed: Btw, all these snafus were caused by AMD executives while exercising their roles.
@mrmt
That is just dust compared what Intel did to AMD... Saboteurs.
That's all old, we don't see anything like that for 2 years. AMD said Jaguar will have 15% improvements over Bobcat but in the end it was over 20%, 22% to be correct.