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adairusmc

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Anyone have much experience with portable fly fishing rigs? I do a good bit of hiking and occasionally run across rivers with trout. It's not worth carrying a 'normal' fly rig but I'd love to find something I can have just in case.

I've used some of the more bulky '2 piece' rigs, but the other weekend I saw a guy fishing with a setup that's completely contained in a ~2ft tube, he was on the other side of the river or I would've found out where he purchased it.

I only fish with 4 piece rods, I like them for packability and they seem to perform (for me), just as good as the 2 piece rods.

I have a used Temple Fork Outfitters NXT rod and reel kit, with the rod/reel case, if you are interested. It is a 9', 4pc, 5/6wt rod. I have it listed on Craigslist locally but if you want one and want to try and use one, I will give you a good deal on it. Needs new line though.
 

Mxylplyx

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I'm not into fishing, but my company owns pradco fishing lures , which makes bomber, yum, heddon, rebel, booyah, lazy ike, and several others. I personally coded their website. I could probably dig up a discount they'd let me give out if there was enough interest. I have no idea if our prices are competitive with walmart/ebay/etc.

http://www.lurenet.com
 

Oyeve

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Yes it works. The first time was in the early 80's when my uncle was doing it. We would put a chunk on the hook and fish the side of the river with a bobber hanging from the middle of the fishing rod. Some times the current of the river would pull the bobber straight up so we had to user sinkers to hold it. When the bobber hit the top of the pole is when you set the hook. We did the bobber this way because we were fishing at night and easier to see it. Also if you want to get ghetto you can bend a stick/twig in half and use it as the bobber.

http://roundvalleyfishing.com/2011/08/16/bottom-fishing-lighted-strike-indicator/
Ah the old ugly-stick. I still have my first one from 1979. 4'11", still use it today. Even in the rivers of NY. I compliments my 30 other various ugly-sticks. Caught a 19lb stripe last night.
 

FM2n

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Didnt have time to read through 6 pages. I fish a lot at the bay (San Diego) and for catching bass, the best results are with swim baits with a 3/8 oz lead head. The spotted brown swimbaits works really well. Results are good at the lake as well. If the water is colder, reel in much slower and use the yo-yo technique. With colder water, fishies tend to dive deeper for shelter. Their muscles are more constrained so they don't tackle their food like in warmer water. So you have to pretend to be a slow moving bait to give them a chance to jump on it.

For fishing line, get some flourocarbon or P-Line. They have low stretch so the lag between a bite to when you feel it on your fingers is less.

Go spend a little bit of money and get yourself a nice baitcasting reel and put 10 or 12 lb line on it. The fun in fishing is the technique in reeling in the fish, not just a strong line to pull them in effortlessly.

A good rod also helps as well, Medium-Heavy i would recommend, so that you can feel every vibration on your fingertips as the fishes nibble or when your swimbait is dragging along the sand.
 

JulesMaximus

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Friend of mine just got back from a fishing trip. He brought back a lot of yellowtail... can't wait to throw some of that on the BBQ. Mmm, seared yellowtail.
 

purbeast0

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went out this morning and caught 3 small mouth bass, bout 10-12 inches. one of those fuckers i couldn't get the hook out for a while. i thought it was maybe goign to die because i was struggling and it was out of the water so long. i ended up putting it back in the water, still hooked, like 2 or 3 times because i just could not get the hook out. i could tell it was starting to have less and less energy.

but finally i got it out and put it back in the water. it was moving slowly but it swam off. i'm sure it was just exhausted.

i need to get me some more white gary senko's. those things are money where i fish. it seems anything white works well. i caught the first bass in literally 4 casts when i first got there, but he tore it to shreds and that was my last one.

i put on a junebug gary and my first cast i had another fish lol. so they like those too.

but i did not get much more after that so like 30 minutes later i put on a white tube and had another catch. white tubes are the only tubes i've caught fish on so far when using tubes. tried junebug and this green color too.

i may go back out tomorrow too since it's so damn nice this weekend. i woulda stayed out longer this morning but have a football game in 20 mins!
 

Jeeebus

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Aug 29, 2006
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Going out for some nighttime drift fishing tomorrow night. I'm sure I won't catch anything, but will be nice to be out on the water for a few hours (and not burning from the sun).

Forgot to post an update. "Mehhhhh" would sum it up adequately.

Friend of mine caught a couple small snapper and that was it. Whole boat only caught about 8 small snapper total.

I hooked into some kind of unmerciful monster that I fought for about 25 minutes at the end of the boat before it finally took pity on my shattered body and cut the line. Crew surmised that it was a huge shark given how the leader was frayed (he was basically wearing it down with his skin).

Beautiful night though to be on the water. Was weird, because the seas were maybe 2 feet, and at least three people on the boat were throwing up from nausea. Errr... not gonna find much more of a calm night than that.
 

spidey07

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Forgot to post an update. "Mehhhhh" would sum it up adequately.

Friend of mine caught a couple small snapper and that was it. Whole boat only caught about 8 small snapper total.

I hooked into some kind of unmerciful monster that I fought for about 25 minutes at the end of the boat before it finally took pity on my shattered body and cut the line. Crew surmised that it was a huge shark given how the leader was frayed (he was basically wearing it down with his skin).

Beautiful night though to be on the water. Was weird, because the seas were maybe 2 feet, and at least three people on the boat were throwing up from nausea. Errr... not gonna find much more of a calm night than that.

I've been on open ocean hundreds of times all day/night. Never got sick, never even a hint of a problem.

But this one time, just one time...I got bit. Worst thing ever. Barely 2 foot seas, but I got bit BIG TIME and there is NO relief. I wanted to kill myself it was that bad.
 

Jeeebus

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I've been on open ocean hundreds of times all day/night. Never got sick, never even a hint of a problem.

But this one time, just one time...I got bit. Worst thing ever. Barely 2 foot seas, but I got bit BIG TIME and there is NO relief. I wanted to kill myself it was that bad.

I felt bad for one guy. Looked like a Japanese tourist or something - clearly had never held a rod in his hand. Within minutes out in the ocean, he was done. Laid down the whole time (when he was not puking). Sucked that he had to endure 4.5 hours of it.
 

purbeast0

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caught this last week while doing some night surf fishing in north carolina.

http://i.imgur.com/RTLtU.jpg?1

it was about 11pm. we were out there from 9pm to about 12:30am. that is the first shark i've ever caught and even though it's tiny, it was pretty damn awesome. wish i had my real camera instead of just my phone because the quality kinda sucks. i let my cousin handle taking it off the hook though because i've never done a shark before.

we were catching a lot of spot and he caught a blue as well. spot were eating up the blood worms. we probably caught about 10-11 of those total. i caught that shark on a mullet though, cut in half.

i just wished we had more time to do night fishing. i tried to do it the following night but the conditions were just too windy.
 

Jeeebus

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caught this last week while doing some night surf fishing in north carolina.

http://i.imgur.com/RTLtU.jpg?1

it was about 11pm. we were out there from 9pm to about 12:30am. that is the first shark i've ever caught and even though it's tiny, it was pretty damn awesome. wish i had my real camera instead of just my phone because the quality kinda sucks. i let my cousin handle taking it off the hook though because i've never done a shark before.

we were catching a lot of spot and he caught a blue as well. spot were eating up the blood worms. we probably caught about 10-11 of those total. i caught that shark on a mullet though, cut in half.

i just wished we had more time to do night fishing. i tried to do it the following night but the conditions were just too windy.

awww... it's cute!

We catch a lot of sharks on the Gulf coast of Florida by my parents' place. Catch a ladyfish / mackerel, cut the head off, put it on a hook, and throw it out there from shore. Might catch a tarpon, redfish, snook, stingray (ughhhh), or a shark.

Caught a huge nurse shark many many years ago from the beach. Damn thing had me chase after it about a half mile down the beach. By the time I got it in, I had at least 30 people standing around watching. Took the hook out and sent her back on her way. Several mothers were then forbidding their children from going back in. Err... it's the ocean. There's sharks out there - whether you see them or not.
 

purbeast0

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awww... it's cute!

We catch a lot of sharks on the Gulf coast of Florida by my parents' place. Catch a ladyfish / mackerel, cut the head off, put it on a hook, and throw it out there from shore. Might catch a tarpon, redfish, snook, stingray (ughhhh), or a shark.

Caught a huge nurse shark many many years ago from the beach. Damn thing had me chase after it about a half mile down the beach. By the time I got it in, I had at least 30 people standing around watching. Took the hook out and sent her back on her way. Several mothers were then forbidding their children from going back in. Err... it's the ocean. There's sharks out there - whether you see them or not.

hah yea man i was talking to the guy at the bait store and he set us up w/what we needed to catch sharks and what people have been catching them with down there. he said a few days ago someone had reeled in an 8 foot mako from the shore. i couldn't IMAGINE reeling that thing it, that would be AWESOME! i'd be scared and amazed at the same time, but it would be so awesome.

he was also telling me that if people knew how many 5+ ft sharks were in water up to your waste, that people would not be swimming in the ocean hah. and he also said that just goes to show you how sharks are NOT aggressive.

me personally, i watch a lot of shark shows and have a good knowledge of them, so i'm not worried at all because i know how they are.

he was also telling me that people are pulling in hammerheads, tigers, and whites from the shore. i just wish i had known that early in the week so i could have done more fishing for them. was pretty damn awesome regardless of the size!

oh and we also had 2 guys who happened to be walking by right as i caught it, who stopped and took pictures, even though it was tiny. one of the guys is standing behind my cousin in the pic.

EDIT:

how big was your "huge" nurse shark? i know nurse sharks are probably THE MOST un-aggressive of all the shark species. and i know they can get large too!
 

Jeeebus

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how big was your "huge" nurse shark? i know nurse sharks are probably THE MOST un-aggressive of all the shark species. and i know they can get large too!

As a fisherman, I'm compelled to tell you it was 15 feet long and 800 lbs.

In reality, it was probably about 6 feet long - 100 lbs maybe? My parents have caught a few reef sharks in the same range, but countless more in the 3-4 foot range. When the water gets a little less clear/more choppy, they're usually out and hungry.
 

purbeast0

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As a fisherman, I'm compelled to tell you it was 15 feet long and 800 lbs.

In reality, it was probably about 6 feet long - 100 lbs maybe? My parents have caught a few reef sharks in the same range, but countless more in the 3-4 foot range. When the water gets a little less clear/more choppy, they're usually out and hungry.

hah still that is fucking awesome. largest fish i've ever caught is a small mouth bass like 20" long.
 

Jeffg010

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Go north, stay away from the cities (heavy pressure from the locals) and you should be good to go.

My cabin is located in Cook, MN 50 miles south of Canada. I fish in lakes and rivers that you will never see anyone for whole weeks. I consider MN the best place in the US to fish. When I retire I'll be spend my summers there fishing every day.
 

onza

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My cabin is located in Cook, MN 50 miles south of Canada. I fish in lakes and rivers that you will never see anyone for whole weeks. I consider MN the best place in the US to fish. When I retire I'll be spend my summers there fishing every day.

Okay pick me up - I want to fish there now.
 

DrPizza

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If you want to catch some bass...use a setup like this...

http://www.wikihow.com/Texas-Rig-a-Plastic-Worm

If you are in vegetation...they work slick...no snags...just make sure you don't horse it around otherwise you will snag.

weeds are fine...just slowly jerk the bait through...pause and let it fall...try to make it look like an injured fish.

Lilly pads...I like to toss one of these setups on pads...and just bounce it across the tops...watching the water blow up is awesome.

I just got my first boat this past weekend...16 foot fishing craft...totally pumped to get it out on the water...need to get some electronics on it...man are those expensive!

Texas rigging is very effective; and the weight is optional. Whatever you do, don't waste your money on cheap worms - the Yamamoto brand of senkos are well worth the extra money. (When you have $25k invested in your boat, are you really that cheap that you'll go with $1 for a pack rubber nightcrawlers vs. $5 a pack, particularly if the $5 a pack will out catch the cheap ones 10 to 1?) Wacky rigging also works particularly well for some people. The most important thing: Fish them SLOWLY! Most fishermen reel them in way too fast & wonder why they don't catch many bass. As leeland said, let them sink to the bottom. Watch them in shallow water - figure out how long it'll take to hit bottom in the depth you're fishing in. And, if you're using weight, they don't sink naturally. Some lures - faster. Worms? Slow as hell, as in a normal cast = at least a minute to real it back in. 2 or 3 minutes or longer on a day when the bass are really finicky. The bass are there... they see it. They'll often let them zip right by them, but when they swim over to investigate, just a little bit of movement will often entice them to gulp it down. Speaking of which, bass don't often hit and run - there is no huge tug. Big bass will often inhale it & not swim, or swim very very slowly away. I got a 5-6 pounder a week ago in fairly shallow water. If I hadn't seen my line move just slightly sideways ("hmmmm, that's funny.." HOOKSET!) I never would have gotten him. No one else was catching fish that day; I picked up half a dozen nice bass, 15" or more, in less than 30 minutes. 5-6 pounds is huge for up north.

okay cool gotcha. if my brother or i have time to make these beforehand we will try them out. otherwise i'm just going to go the corn route. but we may try both.

i know it's hard as hell to tell from the pic i posted above, but do those shadows even look like carp to anyone? or do they look like something else? they reminded me of those large coy when i first saw them.
It's a couple months late, but yes, they're very likely carp. It's also a waste of time trying to catch those carp while they're sun bathing. Carp are bottom feeders - enticing those ones to hit your bait is pretty unlikely. You could probably cast a floating lure with a few treble hooks on it bast the carp, and try to snag the carp while retrieving the lure. Make sure you know your state regs though - snagging is often illegal. I know that on some salmon streams, the state DEC guys will sit hidden on a hill with binoculars watching fisherman. Anyone they catch snagging fish gets a pretty hefty fine. It's not very sporting with species like salmon or large spawning trout, though with carp, it's kind of fun. There's a hell of a lot more fight when they're hooked by the tail end rather than the mouth end. In NY, carp are the only species that can legally be shot with a bow - also fun, and that picture shows you why people will target carp for fishing in that manner.

Get some hook pliers.
But remember folks, if you're practicing catch and release, if the fish is gut hooked, just cut the line & let them go. The hook will rust out in a couple of days & the chance of survival is a LOT higher. A 15" bass in NY is at least 5 or 6 years old. A 22" bass is at least 8 years old around here - that's why I practice catch & release with most game fish - and if I'm releasing, I also prefer that they live. Otherwise, it's pointless.
 
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purbeast0

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But remember folks, if you're practicing catch and release, if the fish is gut hooked, just cut the line & let them go. The hook will rust out in a couple of days & the chance of survival is a LOT higher. A 15" bass in NY is at least 5 or 6 years old. A 22" bass is at least 8 years old around here - that's why I practice catch & release with most game fish - and if I'm releasing, I also prefer that they live. Otherwise, it's pointless.

yea it's funny you say this...

when i was in NC we had a canal in the backyard and i was catching some tiny fish with shrimp/bloodworms. one of them was deep in the fish and i saw blood coming out of the gills. i just cut the line as quick as i could and dropped him back in the water.

he slowly fell a few inches not moving, then wiggled a little bit, then fell back down slowly again like 6 more inches and i couldn't see him. i never saw the fish float to the top, so i'm not sure if it died or not right then, or if it survived and lived on.

i did have him out of the water for a little bit since i wasn't right next to my tackle box, but i hope the little booger lived.
 
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