Originally posted by: Aisengard
Because calling countries flat-out "evil" is a GREAT way to have them get along with you.
The truth hurts that bad?
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Because calling countries flat-out "evil" is a GREAT way to have them get along with you.
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Pabster is just pi$$ed that under Bush's misguidance the "joke" is fact.
No, I just find it ironic that all the libs who criticized Bush for his "Axis of Evil" comments and Cheney for suggesting Iran was a serious threat are now commenting on the imminent (supposed) invasion of Iran.
But you'll never admit they were right.
Originally posted by: DonVito
How is that ironic? Iran and North Korea wouldn't have had carte blanche to develop nuclear programs if the Bush administration hadn't had such a monomaniacal focus on Iraq, who posed essentially no threat to the US. What is ironic about the fact that President Bush is allegedly about to make another misstep in international relations?
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Pabster is just pi$$ed that under Bush's misguidance the "joke" is fact.
No, I just find it ironic that all the libs who criticized Bush for his "Axis of Evil" comments and Cheney for suggesting Iran was a serious threat are now commenting on the imminent (supposed) invasion of Iran.
But you'll never admit they were right.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Please come back to reality and realize "terror" is just a thin veil for economic power.
Nuclear weapons make great headlines, but are far down the pecking order for threats to America's stability and safety.
Originally posted by: Pabster
Oh, right. Iran wasn't venturing in to the nuclear arena pre-Bush 43.
You can do better than that.
Who was helping to push Iran into that arena?Originally posted by: Pabster
Oh, right. Iran wasn't venturing in to the nuclear arena pre-Bush 43.Originally posted by: DonVito
How is that ironic? Iran and North Korea wouldn't have had carte blanche to develop nuclear programs if the Bush administration hadn't had such a monomaniacal focus on Iraq, who posed essentially no threat to the US. What is ironic about the fact that President Bush is allegedly about to make another misstep in international relations?
You can do better than that.
how could Iran have obtained nuclear capabilities? Surely, those irresponsible former Soviet scientists must have sold them the technology, a colleague guessed. "Those people would sell anything after the fall of the Soviet Union."
Not quite! It was US policy, not anti-American Moslem fanaticism that led Iran directly into the nuclear age. In the late 1960s, Iran stood out as a model ally of the United States. After all, the ruling Shah owed the CIA after the Agency's operatives ousted elected Premier Mossadegh's government in 1953. CIA action followed Mossadegh's declaration that he would nationalize foreign oil holdings. The Shah understood loyalty to those who reinstalled his "royal family" to dictatorial power.
His servility won him nuclear access. "The US and her allies were in fact the driving force behind the birth of Iran's nuclear program in the late 1960s and early 1970s" (Mohammad Sahimi, Iran's Nuclear Program. Part I: Its History October 2003). By 1974, the Shah, after consulting with Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, boasted that nuclear power plants in Iran would soon produce more than 20,000 megawatts of energy.
In the mid-1970s, led by Kissinger who saw in Iran a "platform state" to fight communism in the region, Washington proposed that The Shah expand his nuclear capacity by acquiring as many as twenty three nuclear reactors. According to Mohammad Sahimi, the work on the reactors began in 1974 with the help of MIT engineers who contracted to train Iranian nuclear technicians.
Sahimi cites a speech by Sydney Sober, a State Department official who in October 1977, "declared that the Shah's government was going to purchase eight nuclear reactors from the US for generating electricity. On July 10, 1978, only seven months before the victory of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the final draft of the US-Iran Nuclear Energy Agreement was signed. The agreement was supposed to facilitate cooperation in the field of nuclear energy and to govern the export and transfer of equipment and material to Iran's nuclear energy program. Iran was also to receive American technology and help in searching for uranium deposits."
Originally posted by: conjur
Who is a nuclear threat to the United States?
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Please come back to reality and realize "terror" is just a thin veil for economic power.
Nuclear weapons make great headlines, but are far down the pecking order for threats to America's stability and safety.
A shining example of the contrast between those who recognize the threat and those who prefer to kick rocks around the school yard.
Originally posted by: conjur
Who was helping to push Iran into that arena?
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Who was helping to push Iran into that arena?
And did I ever comment on that? No...
I was refuting the ridiculous notion by Vito that Iran wasn't working on nuclear programs long before Bush 43.
Just trying to get you to understand that some of the people in the admin now were around back then, working on getting Iran nuclear. Or perhaps you've forgotten that PNAC fvcks like Rummy and DICK were in the Nixon/Ford admins?Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Who was helping to push Iran into that arena?
And did I ever comment on that? No...
I was refuting the ridiculous notion by Vito that Iran wasn't working on nuclear programs long before Bush 43.
Originally posted by: Pabster
I was refuting the ridiculous notion by Vito that Iran wasn't working on nuclear programs long before Bush 43.
Originally posted by: conjur
Who is a nuclear threat to the United States?
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I would say another reason we cannot afford to attack Iran is that they would recall all there 7-11 employees from the united states and we would have a major crisis on our hands...........
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
actually I see no reason for you to assume that when I was joking.....
actually I felt pity for those who would attack the USA in such a way and take so many innocent lives just to prove a point.
I bet your one of those who claims the Holocaust never happened....
That's the site that FOX Network news reporter was pushing on TV a few weeks back.Originally posted by: Aimster
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=128121
wow just wow
I didnt read the article
wow because that site has 71,000 members!
wow
Originally posted by: conjur
That's the site that FOX Network news reporter was pushing on TV a few weeks back.Originally posted by: Aimster
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=128121
wow just wow
I didnt read the article
wow because that site has 71,000 members!
wow
Nice. :roll:
Originally posted by: Aisengard
We will eventually attack all the countries that have oil. Conspiracy theorist! you say. Tinfoil-hat liberal! you say. But it's true. This has been planned since the 1970's. It's only the beginning of the great oil war.