Or this issue exists for both companies. It's about mixed res monitors.
So by all means, get an nv card and experience the lack of a difference.
These kind of posts dont surprise me. I had my hell for almost 4 years with ati x800 xt pe
The hell is not in the hardware but in the buggy software. ATI cant make drivers and they never could even with the all in wonder you get desktop corruption. CCC installs sometimes other times it doesnt,, just a bi*ch. One driver your card is fast other driver things are slow slow.. I never will trust AMD ATI ,, Grab a nVidia card next time and you wont have these problems. Other then that RMA the card. gl
These kind of posts dont surprise me. I had my hell for almost 4 years with ati x800 xt pe
The hell is not in the hardware but in the buggy software. ATI cant make drivers and they never could even with the all in wonder you get desktop corruption. CCC installs sometimes other times it doesnt,, just a bi*ch. One driver your card is fast other driver things are slow slow.. I never will trust AMD ATI ,, Grab a nVidia card next time and you wont have these problems. Other then that RMA the card. gl
That's odd. I've never experienced any driver issues with my Sapphire Radeon X800XT PE. Previous AMD architecture like X1K or older had little dependency in driver optimizations to perform optimally.
These kind of posts dont surprise me. I had my hell for almost 4 years with ati x800 xt pe
The hell is not in the hardware but in the buggy software. ATI cant make drivers and they never could even with the all in wonder you get desktop corruption. CCC installs sometimes other times it doesnt,, just a bi*ch. One driver your card is fast other driver things are slow slow.. I never will trust AMD ATI ,, Grab a nVidia card next time and you wont have these problems. Other then that RMA the card. gl
The GDDR5 is what causes all the heat, not the GPU.
Thermaltake never could make good liquid cooling but you still seem to think they're great. Hypocrite.These kind of posts dont surprise me. I had my hell for almost 4 years with ati x800 xt pe
The hell is not in the hardware but in the buggy software. ATI cant make drivers and they never could even with the all in wonder you get desktop corruption. CCC installs sometimes other times it doesnt,, just a bi*ch. One driver your card is fast other driver things are slow slow.. I never will trust AMD ATI ,, Grab a nVidia card next time and you wont have these problems. Other then that RMA the card. gl
Well. To answer my own question: can you lower the gpu/memory clockspeed of the 6950/6970 when having multiple monitors attached? (To make it cooler and more quiet).
Answer is: YES. (i just did it). but NO it won't affect the temperature.
I'm able to go to a minimum of 345mhz instead of 500, below that the card shuts down. I could get my memory clock to 800, instead of 1345.
But lowering any clockspeed doesn't affect the temperature at all at least not when having multiple monitors attached .
Apparently the high temperature is caused by something else than gpu clock speed. Maybe core voltage ore some other thing. Also the fanspeed remained 30%.
However. The XFX 6950 (unlocked to 6970) I had before was quite loud and noisy at 30% fanspeed. Now I've got one from Sapphire and I can barely hear it at the same fan-speed.
So. Conclusion: Don't buy XFX. They are noisy. Instead buy Sapphire or some other brand.
Grtz.
Can we not make this into a who has the worst drivers thread as thats nothing to do with the topic.
I have managed to downclock the card with two monitors attached and get the temps under control.
I'll post back with the details soon as I'm a bit busy right now, but it isn't that complicated.
What did you downclock the card to?
That's interesting, lots of people are complaining of the same issue with XFX HD 6970 cards, it might be a setting on the BIOS level. And the most strange thing is that all the stock coolers used on the HD 6970 are the same. Mine is very quiet and even on full load, never exceeds the 40% fan speed, after that, it gets noisy.
That's interesting, lots of people are complaining of the same issue with XFX HD 6970 cards, it might be a setting on the BIOS level. And the most strange thing is that all the stock coolers used on the HD 6970 are the same. Mine is very quiet and even on full load, never exceeds the 40% fan speed, after that, it gets noisy.
Can we not make this into a who has the worst drivers thread as thats nothing to do with the topic.
I have managed to downclock the card with two monitors attached and get the temps under control.
I'll post back with the details soon as I'm a bit busy right now, but it isn't that complicated.
This seems rather pertinent to the thread: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1461/19/
- Cat 10:12a hotfix linked earlier in the thread.
- Ticked enable overdrive.
- Installed afterburner 2.1.0 beta 5.
- Leave the core clock alone, dial down the memory as low as you can go without corruption (mines 675) this automatically drags the core clock down to 250. (bolded is where I was going wrong earlier).
- Set up your auto 2d/3d profiles in afterburner and set up a fan profile that cools but doesn't annoy you too much.
- You will have to mess around with the rivatuner stats server to remove some apps being falsly flagged as 3d when they arnt. (click on the i on the upper right of after buner and check the active 3d process line.)
Good luck.
I hate to say it, but that's really about the worst fanboy-type post I've ever seen. Both cards have their huge share of problems. For a while it was nVidia, then AMD, then nVidia, then AMD again... To say one is truly better than another by a landslide just isn't true. I've used both since their origins. Both have their share of problems. Both have their share of driver-specific problems to boot. Plus, the 69xx series is a new chipset. Not a hyped-up 68xx chip. These chipsets require specific considerations when writing drivers on both sides. To be honest, the AMD programmers had the real chips for so short a time to test, I'm amazed they are as stable as they are. I've yet to have a single problem.
But saying one manufacturer sucks at coding drivers just cause you had a dud card is pretty silly. And I'm sorry but if you had that much of a problem, you had a dud card and didn't fix it. I had multiple X800's myself and one was an issue also while the others were peachy-keen. The reason is most often; The designer is not responsible, nore can plan for, manufacturer's not following the reference design. We, as consumers, tend to like this cause that usually means better coolers and/or capacitors or something, but that also means they aren't necessarily following the rules set forth by the manufacturer. This was a huge issue on both sides back during that time. Today is still an issue but much settled.
Especially on immature products, both sides often have driver hickups... Very recently, nVidia had a problem so bad that it was literally causing damage to cards when they seriously overheated with their 196.75 version. And historically, both sides have ups and down. Not long ago, consensus was the other way around. I actually found a while back showing how bad nVidia's drivers were in the 2007 era.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/new...it-paints-picture-of-buggy-nvidia-drivers.ars
Now still this was an OS with it's own host of problems... and I wouldn't by any means trust these numbers for true responsibility... But it is interesting.
This gives skewed results. The company with larger market share is going to cause more problems.
You mean like Microsoft with 100%?
Yea nVidia had something like 60-70% market share back then, if I remember correctly.This gives skewed results. The company with larger market share is going to cause more problems.
? joke? not all vista crashes are due to Microsoft.
The amount of vista machines equipped with ATI or NVIDIA cards does influence the percentage of total vista systems crashing by either company.
If only 100 persons have an ATI card and 500 persons have Nvidia. There is more chance for an Nvidia crash than ATI. You would have to know the total number/percentage of Nvidia and ATI equipped machines in this test in order to make an calculation which GPU brand is more or less likely to crash.
I'm not an statistics master.. but I think it works that way .
This gives skewed results. The company with larger market share is going to cause more problems.