FK 320 or Antec SX830 poll

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ryko212

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Feb 9, 2001
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yeah...shes a vindictive little whosit....
but thats the price ya pay for going for the cute but unstable women

 

hagbard

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Has anyone else noticed "Antec CSR" is no longer showing up here? Too scared to face up to their lies and deceipt. I'd like him to explain why they offered a new power supply to replace my defective one, then backed out without informing me. Most dishonest bastards I've ever dealt with in twenty years of buying computer parts.

..hagbard
 

hojl

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Aug 20, 2000
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if you are cheap like me get the antec, if you can spend the money get the FK
 

cdternie

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cheap? and you w/ a dual 933??? are you CRAZY? your "playstation" is better than a lot of people's only computer...

drooooool
 

Wingznut

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"Don't call her ugly!! I dumped my girlfriend for the sx830!!!!"

Man, I'd hate to see your ex!!!! :Q
 

divinemartyr

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The SX830 is one ugly biatch! The FK320 is the same case my roommate owns, EXTREMELY solid, great duct in the rear for drawing air out of the case, not to mention stylish as hell. Go with the FongKai, no questions!

Also, you can purchase it from a GREAT online vendor here.

dm
 

clumsum

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cdternie,
If all your decisions/choices for componets in your pc are this difficult and protracted for you, this could be a very long process ....................?

If you are going to have the side panel off every other day, or are in to heavy modding, (blow holes, neon lights, plexi-glass windows, etc.) ............... go w/the Antec........

There are front vents, side vents and bottom vents in the Fong Kai 320, more than enough for adaquate cooling, it's also an inch or two deeper than the Antec, and yes the hdd cage is easily removed w/one release lever ..............the plastic cooling duct is a plus, as is the easily removed 120mm/90mm front fan mount........

If it makes it easier for you, I think you will be happy with either case, they are both high quality, high value choices.....!
 

hojl

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hehe I got grants to build my dual 933. As you can tell I didn't get enough money to buy a SUN
 

RichieZ

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The HD cages are better in the Antec, I have a FK-604 too. ANd while the button is a little more convieninte than the switch in the Antec, I find that the HD cage in the FK will rattle if I don't put in the screws to secure it, this apposed to just slide in the push the lock lever on the antec.
 

clumsum

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Richiezzzz,
The hdd cage on the F-K 604 (or the 603) ....... is not like the hdd cage on the Fong Kai 320,............ !
The 320 hdd cage is much sturdier, and does not rattle, I leave the screw out ...... I think it is there for basically, .... shipment of an assembled pc .........?
All the panels and parts fit snugly and I have no case rattles w/the 320 .... and thats w/a 90mm rear case fan, a 120mm front fan and a Taisol CGK hsf.....
 

ZeroBurn

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vote for the fong kai 320 from personal experience here. just need to start mods on it
 

cdternie

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Well I'm not into mods much, which is why I like the fact that the FK has great cooling already. I know both cases are really good ones, just trying to figure out if I want to spend the extra few bucks for the FK or go w/ the Antec.

Thanks for everyone's help =] (and a bit of comic relief, ryko212)
 

AntecCSR

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Actually Hagbard there hasn't been much I've had to say. Or rather nothing that I had to respond to. There have been enough other people to answer questions regarding our products correctly that I don't have to respond.

Regarding your power supply I'll check again and see what happened. As far as I knew it was handled and shipped out already. Obviously since you're still complaining about it, nor mentioned that you've received it, then something again went wrong.

Since I have no control over RMA, Tech Support, nor Customer Service (I believe I've mentioned I've been promoted out of the CSR position back in June) I'm not always made aware of how things are being handled. Additionally since all you do is attack Antec I've felt no need to respond since you did have a bad experience with us. It happens (actually I won't shop at Sears due to a bad experience there myself), we try to avoid that, and if something like your situation happens we try to make amends.

You might want to point out that at the time of post about what others feel about Antec via Reseller ratings that the rating received was based off of 6 people (including you). Obviously not a huge sample size.

Also I don't think you're doing yourself any good by referring to the people on here who like and buy Antec products as drones. Respect their opinion, they're putting up with your what 100+ posts about your bad experiences with Antec etc. Additionally your claim about a month ago, that there are other Antec employees on here besides myself is totally baseless. Besides that it being unethical to do so, we're busy enough that we don't have the manpower/man hours to have people make up fake ideas and post on here on a continuing basis. As it stands if it wasn't for me suggesting that I come on to the various forums there would be no Antec representation on any forum, and your complaints on this board would go unnoticed by us. So you would not have received the offer to send you a new power supply for free, much less have finally gotten the answer to your original question.

So here are some facts for everyone. At the time the 1888-542-6832 number did not work in Canada, in fact I have no evidence for sure if it does now or not. This was a decision made YEARS ago, since we very few sales in Canada at that time. Yes Hagbard sent e-mails into to our tech support asking about voltages on his power supply. Tech support can't find a record of the original e-mails, nor responses, but that is likely due to a hard drive getting toasted on one of their systems. Once I saw his posts on here about his prediciment I stepped in and let the Tech Support Supervisor know what was going on(about a month after his first e-mail). At that point my direct involvement ended. I was cc'd on an e-mail stating that we were going to send Hagbard a PP303X at no charge, and since it was our fault that he could no longer RMA to Onvia we would not require him to send the defective unit back to us (normally we do require that, actually we normally want the defective unit here first, then we ship out). Hagbard requested that we not ship UPS since they get held up at the border for duties and taxes and that would have ended up costing Hagbard some $$. Apparently Hagbard as not received that replacement power supply, nor a tracking number, so again I'll work with Tech Support and RMA we'll see what the hell happened.

That's all the info I have currently.

AntecCSR
 

hagbard

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[Actually Hagbard there hasn't been much I've had to say. Or rather nothing that I had to respond to. There have been enough other people to answer questions regarding our products correctly that I don't have to respond].

Or because everything I've been saying is factually correct.

[Regarding your power supply I'll check again and see what happened. As far as I knew it was handled and shipped out already. Obviously since you're still complaining about it, nor mentioned that you've received it, then something again went wrong.]

I've sent about twenty messages asking what happened to both the head of tech support, Paul Nelson, and one of your customer service reps. You're CS rep made it clear they weren't going to honour the original agreement. Do the right thing, and I'll shutup, here and the many other groups I frequent.


[Since I have no control over RMA, Tech Support, nor Customer Service (I believe I've mentioned I've been promoted out of the CSR position back in June) I'm not always made aware of how things are being handled. Additionally since all you do is attack Antec I've felt no need to respond since you did have a bad experience with us. It happens (actually I won't shop at Sears due to a bad experience there myself), we try to avoid that, and if something like your situation happens we try to make amends.]

I don't just boycott, I let everyone know of my bad (and good) experiences. That's one of the purposes of such a forum.

[You might want to point out that at the time of post about what others feel about Antec via Reseller ratings that the rating received was based off of 6 people (including you). Obviously not a huge sample size].

Most negative, btw.

[Also I don't think you're doing yourself any good by referring to the people on here who like and buy Antec products as drones. Respect their opinion, they're putting up with your what 100+ posts about your bad experiences with Antec etc. Additionally your claim about a month ago, that there are other Antec employees on here besides myself is totally baseless. Besides that it being unethical to do so, we're busy enough that we don't have the manpower/man hours to have people make up fake ideas and post on here on a continuing basis.]

Sorry, but given my experience, I don't see what others find exceptional about your company's products or service.

[As it stands if it wasn't for me suggesting that I come on to the various forums there would be no Antec representation on any forum, and your complaints on this board would go unnoticed by us. So you would not have received the offer to send you a new power supply for free, much less have finally gotten the answer to your original question.]

That's an interesting statement, given that I have received no answers and no new power supply. Moreover, I would have given up by now, had they not offered the replacement supply...its the dishonesty that has me on the attack.

[So here are some facts for everyone. At the time the 1888-542-6832 number did not work in Canada, in fact I have no evidence for sure if it does now or not. This was a decision made YEARS ago, since we very few sales in Canada at that time. Yes Hagbard sent e-mails into to our tech support asking about voltages on his power supply. Tech support can't find a record of the original e-mails, nor responses, but that is likely due to a hard drive getting toasted on one of their systems. Once I saw his posts on here about his prediciment I stepped in and let the Tech Support Supervisor know what was going on(about a month after his first e-mail). At that point my direct involvement ended. I was cc'd on an e-mail stating that we were going to send Hagbard a PP303X at no charge, and since it was our fault that he could no longer RMA to Onvia we would not require him to send the defective unit back to us (normally we do require that, actually we normally want the defective unit here first, then we ship out). Hagbard requested that we not ship UPS since they get held up at the border for duties and taxes and that would have ended up costing Hagbard some $$. Apparently Hagbard as not received that replacement power supply, nor a tracking number, so again I'll work with Tech Support and RMA we'll see what the hell happened]

They've just been throwing gas on the fire over the past month. I don't expect any better.

[That's all the info I have currently.]

This is probably the last I'll ever hear from you, other than the standard response: "Thank you for Contacting Antec" that I've gotten from all the tech support people and CSRs.

....hagbard

 

OMX2000

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Well I'd go for the Antec... In fact I went for the Antec... It has a very good power supply, which has been reviewed on Anandtech (Antec powersupply review). Very nice cooling too, comes with two fans out of the box... Simply put it rocks!!! And 'bout the looks, well it's like picking the best between a Lincoln Navigator Truck, or a 'Vette...
 

clumsum

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OMX2000,
Oh, ..........and which case do you consider to be the "Vette" .............???
Just curious ..............?
 

HiveTyrant

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Man hagberd, your so disgruntled. I have a story too about antec. Ordered the SX1030 back when onvia was still good site. Had a scratch on the front bezel and crack in side pael handle. CAlled antecs customer number and tehy sent me a new front bezel and side panel at no charge. So there!! Im sorry you had a bad experience with antec, but yours is the only one Ive ever heard about and its getting, um, OLD..
 

hagbard

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HiveTyrant - You've told that story almost as often as I've told mine ;-)

What really counts is how you deal with your irritated customers.

Background - Based on positive posts by others, I also vigorously recommended Antec products here and elsewhere and did end up buying this power supply. I noticed some "buggyness" right away, and emailed their tech support. I didn't think it was likely an issue with the ps, so I ended up letting things go too long to return it to my dealer. It became increasingly frustrating, however, that they were not answering my emails and that is when the Antec CSR approached me here. He said he'd look into it. Again heard nothing. By now, I was getting pretty steamed. So, they turn an advocate into an argry and very vocal detractor. Then they tell me the power supply is defective, and expect me to return it at my expense to the States, and pay $30 for brokerage. When I say that isn't acceptable and I'll just trash it. A few days later Paul Nelson (head of tech support) calls me and say they'll send me a new one, don't return the other, but they don't say anything about how they are going to ship it (ie: brokerage). Once again I hear nothing and receive nothing. And I'm certainly not alone in this experience...I'm just the most vocal (if you want to see others, visit the Resellers Rating website). This, in my view, is exceptionally poor customer service.

BTW, anyone who is tired of my bitching CAN simply ignore it ;-) I'll probably say little else here on the matter as I've received a more sympathetic ear in other forums (and I'm clearly still outnumbered by the Antec advocates here) and I'm tired of being told to "shut up" on the matter.

...hagbard
 

Valvoline6

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Sorry hagbard but I can't help but to wonder that with all the successful returns, exchanges, and replacements I've heard from others about Antec, if your not the problem. Case in point- your response to the AntecCSR here in this thread. He is obviously making a good faith effort to help, and your response is very snide. Obviously the Canada shipping / duty was a problem, I wonder what else you left out.

You've had what you describe as a bad experience, and posting that in these forums is a good thing. It allows everyone to see if there is a pattern of bad business practices by a company. In this case not only are you the only complainer, but you've kept it up for months on end. You're getting to the point where you have no credibility. Your "horror" story does not have it's desired effect, people just ignore you and wish you'd go away, far, far away. :disgust:

oops! forgot to add go with the Antec sx830. I have worked with both and I own a sx830.
 

cdternie

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Thanks valvoline6

I would appreciate it if this argument/discussion did not continue in my thread. Thank you for sharing your opinion, hagbard. I understand that no company is perfect. These things happen from time to time. But this thread/poll is here to help distinguish the differences between the Antec sx830 and the Fong Kai 320. It isn't here for this type of discussion.

Thanks for everyone's input! =]
 

hagbard

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Valvoline6 - If I left something out, don't you think the Antec CSR would have brought it up? Most of what he wrote, in the above post, however, was correct. My reply is "snide" because this is the second time he has offered to do something about it, and because of the response of other Antec stuff I've dealt with. And I'm not the only complainer...just the only one in this forum. And you're probably right, I obviously haven't made my case with people in this particular forum, and if others would drop it, so would I at this point.

...hagbard
 

elSmoko

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I paid 142 cdn for my sx830 and man is it sexy! I just wish it had an extra space for a couple more HDs, not that I can afford any right now, but It'd be amazing to have a couple raid setups on the kt7a board. hehe

- ElSmoko
 

geezer88

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I got an FK-320 and it rocks. My Tbird 800 doesn't go above 110 in LA weather. Very roomy, easy installation and it looks futuristic.
 
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