Flaky RAM

JimmyJ65

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is it possible for DRAM to check OK on a tester and still not work in a system? I couldn't get a good load of WIN XP and after considerable hairpulling determined that two of my three DRAM (256M) chips were not operating correctly. A friend checked them on a good tester and says they are OK. Should I risk returning them to my system that is now up and running AOK? They seemed to be fine when I was running WINME except for odd blue screens and other weird behaviors that prompted me to go to WINXP. Could they have caused those anomalies?

Jim J
 

ToBeMe

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Hey Jimmy Johnson......................shouldn't you be getting ready for a race or somethin?????? Anyway, it could also be the fact that several chipsets become flaky when you use several memory banks these days................don't know what chipset you have, but, it's worth looking into............
 

CTho9305

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search google for memtest86. if it says the ram is good, you can rest assured it is.
 

ToBeMe

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Have you tried installing XP with only one bank used???? Try that (if you haven't) and see what happens................if it installs, try adding a stick and see what happens and so on until you find out where the instability comes from..........
 

JimmyJ65

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Yes - I did that earlier. Based on that procedure I figured two of my sticks were faulty. I then went ahead and loaded XP with the one stick of 256 meg (had three 256'rs). Then I had a friend check the two faulty ones and he found they checked good on a device he has that takes a long time to check each stick (he is in the computer fixing business). He reported back that they both checked good. But that is only half the story.

All this began when a successful load of XP with the three sticks installed crashed the following day completely. No blue screen, no video at all, nothing. That began a long tirade that included a complete cleaning of my HD using IBM's disk management tools, including removing and replacing the drive boot sector. Attempting to revert to WINme when it appeared xp flat wasn't going to work, and having that fail. And finally after the ram manuevers getting a successful load of XP, which, believe it or not, crashed again before that day was over. Again, running on the one apparently good stick, I couldn't repair or reload XP. I kept getting the error during setup that it couldn't find a file on the CD. Fortunately, I had purchased two XP programs (both OEM), one for my computer and one for my wife's computer. As a final effort I decided to try to load her Disc, and joila! XP loaded in a heart beat and has been working like a genuine champ ever since (except for loading all files to Drive "E" instead of "C", that is making my single HD drive "E"). I'm not going to bother changing it. It gave a little problem downloading new scanner drivers from Canon as the program was written to extract to C:\Temp, which of course didn't work as drive "C" is a zip drive. But used WINZIP to extract it to "E" and everything is hunky dory. I also think I have the same problem updating soundblaster audigy files. It works on the native XP drivers but I lose it completely after trying to install the updated XP drivers from Creative. I guess the whole world assumes that Drive "C" is the center of the universe.
 

JimmyJ65

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By the way, maybe this should be a new topic, but am I asking for trouble if A drive is my floppy; C drive is a zip drive; D is my cdrom/DVD, and E is my hd?
 

ToBeMe

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Hmmm, not sure Jimmy, but, you may have voltage problems.............at least it seems a possibility..............what wattage P/S do you have and how fast a chip? Also, how many things are you running off the P/S??? Especially if it is small, or faulty, it could easily cause the problems you describe too............
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: JimmyJ65
By the way, maybe this should be a new topic, but am I asking for trouble if A drive is my floppy; C drive is a zip drive; D is my cdrom/DVD, and E is my hd?

I don't like running a system like that, but, that's mainly because I download a lot of stuff and would eventually make a mistake.............. As you already have found out, everything expects "C:" to be your main drive, but, as long as you remember, it should never present a problem.............

 

torreyk

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Should you have to reload XP again, unplug everything thats a dirve excet the CD drive and the hard drive you intend to install it on to help the drive letter madness.
 

zephyrprime

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Memtest86 is no good. Use Gold Memory. It's the best of several programs that I have tried. I had a problem recently and suspected a new dimm I had installed. Memtest & Docmemory gave me a pass on their memory test but goldmem said my memory was bad. I had to slow down the timings on the ram for things to work but everything is ok now.
 

smp

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I had a flakey stick of ram report missing files off of a CD on install .. I couldn't figure out why I would get that error, but it sure was the ram .. replaced it and everything was fine. The hardest problems to troubleshoot are flakey ram problems .. weird stuff happens. But yeah, the mem banks on your board might be flakey too ..
 
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