Flaming HOT! Yate Loon blue LED 120mm low RPM fans for $2.16 each in qty 10+

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vladgur

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Apparently these guys are in San Francisco. Has anyone been to their B&M storefront?
 

sun818

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Beware! I ordered from these guys and they shipped UPS dispite me selecting and paying extra for USPS priority. Padding thier profit by switching shippers. I'll reject package like I reject everything UPS.

Technically, you are correct: USPS Priority is $8.05 while UPS Ground is $7.41. The difference is $0.64. The shipping method was switched since the fulfillment warehouse will only ship UPS. It balances out - I sometimes lose money when I have to switch shipping method and I actually lose money on shipping (e.g. Shipping UPS to buyer in same state.)
 

John

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This is the 2nd or 3rd time that I have ordered from Tekgems. I received my box of fans yesterday, and each one was individually bubble wrapped.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: sun818
Beware! I ordered from these guys and they shipped UPS dispite me selecting and paying extra for USPS priority. Padding thier profit by switching shippers. I'll reject package like I reject everything UPS.

Technically, you are correct: USPS Priority is $8.05 while UPS Ground is $7.41. The difference is $0.64. The shipping method was switched since the fulfillment warehouse will only ship UPS. It balances out - I sometimes lose money when I have to switch shipping method and I actually lose money on shipping (e.g. Shipping UPS to buyer in same state.)

What do i care about your particulars for? Bottom line: If your distibutor won't offer USPS then you should'nt offer it as choice on your site for unsuspecting customers to select, pay more for, with knowledge you're going to switch them to UPS. This has to be first time I've seen bait and switch with carriers. $.64 cents or $64 same result. Takes longer, costs more and did'nt get sevice I paid for. Not to mention it's UPS.:thumbsdown:

I am cuirous though what you'd done had I selected US Postal Service Express Mail for $25.20? Still UPS? After all that's all your distro uses.. That's almost $18 padding there.

After reading this thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1649377&enterthread=y&arctab=y
And checking out your re-seller rating it don't look good. Could kick myself not doing so before I ordered.. but what's $30 these days


 

Tu13erhead

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Beware! I ordered from these guys and they shipped UPS dispite me selecting and paying extra for USPS priority. Padding thier profit by switching shippers. I'll reject package like I reject everything UPS.

Same here. Only I won't be around to reject the package. Resellerratings, here we come.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: Zebo
Beware! I ordered from these guys and they shipped UPS dispite me selecting and paying extra for USPS priority. Padding thier profit by switching shippers. I'll reject package like I reject everything UPS.

Same here. Only I won't be around to reject the package. Resellerratings, here we come.

Not yet bro.. you gotta see if he makes things right for his mistakes.
 

peleejosh

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does anyone know if these will mount on a si-120. I cant tell if it has the same sleeved screw shaft thingy like the nexus fans have. Can anyone help?
 

Tu13erhead

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: Zebo
Beware! I ordered from these guys and they shipped UPS dispite me selecting and paying extra for USPS priority. Padding thier profit by switching shippers. I'll reject package like I reject everything UPS.

Same here. Only I won't be around to reject the package. Resellerratings, here we come.

Not yet bro.. you gotta see if he makes things right for his mistakes.

His response:

"The fulfillment warehouse only ships via UPS Ground. There is nothing I can
do about it."

Complete BS.
 

sun818

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> If your distibutor won't offer USPS then you should'nt offer it
> as choice on your site for unsuspecting customers to select,
> pay more for, with knowledge you're going to switch them to UPS.

Some shopping carts provide a way to limit shipping methods based on the
product or groups of products added to the shopping cart. Unfortunately,
AmeriCart is not one of them. I think MIVA has this capability.

Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.
 

Tu13erhead

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Originally posted by: sun818
> If your distibutor won't offer USPS then you should'nt offer it
> as choice on your site for unsuspecting customers to select,
> pay more for, with knowledge you're going to switch them to UPS.

Some shopping carts provide a way to limit shipping methods based on the
product or groups of products added to the shopping cart. Unfortunately,
AmeriCart is not one of them. I think MIVA has this capability.

Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.

Are you serious? That's your response to this situation?

What you SHOULD HAVE done was send an email or make a phone call BEFORE shipping the product to inform them that they would only be able to receive UPS ground shipping AND refund the difference (or upgrade for free, accordingly).

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flot

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Originally posted by: sun818
> If your distibutor won't offer USPS then you should'nt offer it
> as choice on your site for unsuspecting customers to select,
> pay more for, with knowledge you're going to switch them to UPS.

Some shopping carts provide a way to limit shipping methods based on the
product or groups of products added to the shopping cart. Unfortunately,
AmeriCart is not one of them. I think MIVA has this capability.

Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.

Agreed. However I'm assuming if a customer paid more for 'upgraded' shipping and you instead shipped UPS, you are refunding the difference in $ - correct?

Also just so you understand, a lot of times I'll choose USPS because it is much easier for me to receive packages from them. It is not the end of the world if something goes UPS instead, but it can be much more difficult for me to pick them up. In this particular case, I chose UPS when I placed MY order, but I was seriously considering paying the $2-4 more just so that I know I'd receive them easily.
 

sun818

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> Are you serious? That's your response to this situation?

What situation? You're making a big deal out of what is essentially nothing in the big scheme of things.
 

chinkgai

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Originally posted by: sun818
> Are you serious? That's your response to this situation?

What situation? You're making a big deal out of what is essentially nothing in the big scheme of things.

i dont think you understand the whole point sun. the whole point here is that as a business, whether ebusiness or B&M retailer...you should behave like a proper business should. otherwise, get rid of your storefront and just become an ebay seller because you're giving responses like one (with a non perfect feedback obviously - judging from your attitude, about 80% positive)

in a situation like this, instead of sayin what you said above regarding the cart not having the function...then you need to make it explicitly known to the customer that it WILL NOT ship via whatever the customer paid for. how? easy, write it in bold somewhere before check out. emphasize it somehow and think of a way to fix it on your side rather than say "oh well, sh!ts on you, i coulda ran off but i didnt"

wrong wrong wrong attitude as an ebusiness in this case and not an "unprofessional ebay seller"

as for the situation linked in zebo's link...thats just absolutely wrong with no "work around" like stating in bold you're going to a wedding or any other BS like that. if you cant fulfill orders, i suggest you state delayed shipping so the customer knows or just shut down your site for a few days rather than have disgruntled customers write bad reviews on reseller ratings and here on a large board like anandtech.

and the whole bit about telling people to shut up or emailing them and saying they're losers? well...theres nothing i can say regarding that. you should really consider taking some business classes or something

you have some great stuff at great prices...but if you continue to think/act the way you do...in the end, you lose.
 

Karaktu

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Originally posted by: sun818
> Are you serious? That's your response to this situation?

What situation? You're making a big deal out of what is essentially nothing in the big scheme of things.


sun818, let me just say you're not helping a Hot Deals thread at all, and since I posted it, I need to jump in here.

What's not a big deal to you IS a big deal to your customers. People expect things to be shipped by the carrier they choose, because they have reasons for choosing that carrier. If you can't do it, you need to let them know before shipping and HOLD the order until you get approval for the change.

Whether or not you lose money on a transaction and/or shipping is your choice. Customers expect to pay and receive exactly what shows up on their invoice when they provide payment information. It doesn't even out in the end in the minds of customers. More than one business has gone by the wayside even though they offered the same products at lower prices than competitiors because the competitors had better shipping and/or customer service.

Having previously owned my own business, I understand your perspective, but you're forgetting rule #1: the customer is always right.
 

peleejosh

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Originally posted by: peleejosh
does anyone know if these will mount on a si-120. I cant tell if it has the same sleeved screw shaft thingy like the nexus fans have. Can anyone help?


I think my post may have gotten lost in the battle over shipping. Can anyone help with my question?
 

Karaktu

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Originally posted by: peleejosh
Originally posted by: peleejosh
does anyone know if these will mount on a si-120. I cant tell if it has the same sleeved screw shaft thingy like the nexus fans have. Can anyone help?


I think my post may have gotten lost in the battle over shipping. Can anyone help with my question?


The screw shaft is sleeved on the blue LED fans I have. However, you may just want to order replacement 120mm fan clips from jab-tech.com , which go on TOP of the fan and are generally better at securing the fan any way.

 

Spike

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As a management employee at UPS I have no issue if they switch my shipping regardless of what I paid... unless they switched it to FedEx :Q

I think I will jump on 10 of these, just like the 5 orange I bought before. Darn 120mm fans sitting everywhere...

-spike
 

fbrdphreak

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Originally posted by: sun818
> Are you serious? That's your response to this situation?

What situation? You're making a big deal out of what is essentially nothing in the big scheme of things.
I'm assuming you are affiliated with or are an owner/operator of the website in question here:

I can't believe you're treating customers like this, ESP on a public forum. I will not be buying anything from you nor will I recommend anyone to do the same. It may seem like a small issue to you, but you're showing blatant disrespect for the people who are willing to trust you and give you their money.

I've never owned a business, but I treat people better than you do in my FS/FT transactions; and those are "essentially nothing in the big scheme of things."

:thumbsdown:
 

sun818

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As a gesture of good will, I ship one free blue yate loon fans to the first four Anandtech users that PM me. Your post count must be over 100. I will ship one fan to these lucky four via US Postal Service first class. Thanks.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: sun818


Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.

Lets not be ridiculous here.

yes, You *could* have and I would have charged back your ass and reported you to your local district attoney and FTC for fraud. Is that worth it?

I suggest you read and take to heart what Karaktu and Chinkgai, business owners themselves had to say before destroying your online reputation any futher. You offer good deals but money is'nt everything.
 

Karaktu

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: sun818


Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.

Lets not be ridiculous here.

yes, You *could* have and I would have charged back your ass and reported you to your local district attoney and FTC for fraud. Is that worth it?

I suggest you read and take to heart what Karaktu and Chinkgai, business owners themselves had to say before destroying your online reputation any futher. You offer good deals but money is'nt everything.


By the same token, I don't understand why you "reject everything UPS."

Every carrier has their issues.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Karaktu
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: sun818


Put in perspective: I could have ran with your money and never shipped the product. Or send you inferior fans. There's a lot worse that could have happened.

Lets not be ridiculous here.

yes, You *could* have and I would have charged back your ass and reported you to your local district attoney and FTC for fraud. Is that worth it?

I suggest you read and take to heart what Karaktu and Chinkgai, business owners themselves had to say before destroying your online reputation any futher. You offer good deals but money is'nt everything.


By the same token, I don't understand why you "reject everything UPS."

Every carrier has their issues.

Who cares? Maybe I own stock in Fedex and don't want them profiting from me.. Maybe I think my USPS mail lady is *HOT* and and want to see her again. Like you said: "People expect things to be shipped by the carrier they choose, because they have reasons for choosing that carrier. " And it's true. I can think of no justification for switching shippers agreed to.

Truth be told I have pending litigation with UPS so I can't comment on specifics.
 
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