Damn I wish I saw this response earlier. It is really stupid. *Sigh*
If multiple people think your lights are too bright then your lights are too fucking bright. Maybe you think you are super smarter than everyone else, but most people have the intellectual ability to tell if lights are too bright or not. The amount of stupid that you must think all mankind possesses would kill them all before puberty, so therefore it does not exist. You need to get over whatever lies you are telling yourself about how stupid the average human is compared to you. News flash: you have a solidly middle level intelligence.
What you mistake for reasoning is laughable. The law determines what is "too bright." People "thinking" that your lights are too bright does not. You has sub-standard reasoning abilities.
This started when you said that the cop admitted that they were too bright and even gave a reason why they were too bright. I pointed out that he said nothing of the kind: He explained why people THOUGHT they were too bright. Rather than admitting that I was right and it was the only logical conclusion, you just attacked my intelligence. Good try.
No, the desperate reasoning is someone who would say that 3 different people all flashing you as a courtesy to warn you that your lights are too bright are all wrong. On the same night. It's fucking stupidity to believe that this can happen and they are all wrong and that there is nothing that you should do to correct the issue except for disrupting their lives by pulling them over under threat of violence to issue them state sanctioned warnings or tickets.
Nothing desperate at all. I even pointed out that this exact same thing has happened in the past when new vehicle lighting technologies were introduced. DOT/NTSB are perfectly aware of this phenomenon and you should be now too. You have no excuses for ignoring this proven truth. The cop did not pull anyone over under "threat of violence."
It's not a leap to think that after 3+ people all thought his lights are to bright, that they are too bright. That is not a leap at all. That is common sense, not nonsense. Only a narcissistic asshole might think otherwise.
We've already discussed this. "All three could have been flashing to warn oncoming drivers of another cop down the road or they could have been flashing because they THOUGHT his lights were too brights due to them being new/different/noticeable."
Strange that you seem to know the intentions of the previous drivers. Common sense tells you that if new LED headlights cause the same effect as the Bi-Xenon and white halogen headlights before them when they were new (people assume that "brighter" = "too bright") then more than one person would flash in a night. It's a phenomenon caused mostly because they look different which causes drivers to look closer and think that they are too bright even when they adhere to legal limits.
For fuck sake there is no evidence of this or even insinuation of this. You just literally made up a horseshit reason that something might have happened. The horseshit reason doesn't even make sense. You must really think that everyone who is not you is totally stupid and easily outsmarted by bullshit. The cop even explained that they flashed because his lights were too bright. The cop said this. HE SAID IT.
THE COP DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE TOO BRIGHT! Can you read/hear?!
I didn't make up ANYTHING. The phenomenon of people mistaking new lighting technologies as being "too bright" until they get used to them and stop staring is well documented. It's also well known that people flash their lights around cops for OTHER reasons that they might not be forthcoming about. Jumping to conclusions because the kid claimed they were too bright and saying that the cop said the same thing is ridiculous.
Like all the idiots who fell for Ahmed's clock hoax, you mistake claims for facts. The kid CLAIMS that they were too bright. The claim might have even been made up after he was pulled over for flashing if he was flashing for a completely different reason (happens all the time when people flash to warn of cops ahead). YOU DON'T KNOW and yet you draw all kinds of conclusions based on it.
Even assuming that it was the reason the kid flashed him, there is no evidence that the others flashed him for the same reason. Hell, as far as you know the kid WAS flashing to warn oncoming drivers of speed traps and changed his story when he found out that he flashed a cop. It happens all the time. Personally, I think it should be your right to communicate such information, but lots of states have laws against it and others simply enforce their existing laws about the minimum distances for using brights.
The evidence for scenario #2 is that the exact same complaints have spiked every other time new headlights have been introduced and explained exactly how I said they were explained. I linked to the info and everything. The officer himself even said he had a new car and said that it was why people thought his lights were too bright and there are several new cars that include LED bulbs. Speaking of "no evidence:" Funny how you think the kid's claims trump the cop's with you just... because.
If lots of people think your lights are too bright then they are. End of story. If you are blinding people, then you are blinding people. You don't get to blind people and then say "well it's a regulation blinding so you're not actually blinded."
As explained, people will THINK they are too bright and BLIND THEMSELVES simply because they A) Noticed that they looked different and B) Looked directly at them. It's a real phenomenon. You have no excuse to go on repeating this BS after I have pointed this out to you so many times. Saying "end of story" doesn't make it true.
What the fuck? You've been flashed 3 times in a single night by people and you still think you weren't blinding them? No wonder you are arguing for the cop here.
You still don't understand how easy that is even with new technology headlights that get flashed: Cops can set themselves up to get flashed by people who are warning them of other cops. It happens all the time in the states that allow it, especially at the end of the month when they haven't met their quotas and are looking for any reason to stop you. Even if all three were really flashing because they thought it was too bright, IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO PROVING THAT THE LIGHTS WERE TOO BRIGHT. It happened ALL THE TIME when factory Bi-Xenon headlights stood out. It happened ALL THE TIME when factory white halogen bulbs stood out. It now happens ALL THE TIME with new factory LED bulbs. There is reason to believe that he had factory LED bulbs and they appeared too bright just because they stood out, exactly like white bulbs did when most other vehicles had yellow. Yes: People said that they were too bright because the COLOR changed. Once white no longer stood out, people stopped staring and now no one thinks they are "too bright."
I'm calling bullshit on this one. Easy call. 2 reasons: 1) How in the fuck would someone be able to stop in time to confront you if you both were passing in opposite directions? 2) If it actually happened (unlikely) and they shut up quick, it is likely because you flashed your badge and threatened to abuse your authority. Because if your low beams are too bright then they are too bright. It doesn't matter if you have even higher beams that are even too higher bright. BOTH sets are too fucking bright and you need to adjust your shit.
More evidence or your limited ability to comprehend possible scenarios other than the first conclusion you jump to that you desperately want to believe. I never said anything about the person confronting me being an oncoming driver.
I was driving a 2000 Hyundai Elantra when a person in front of me slowed and sped up and slowed again in an attempt to annoy me and prevent me from passing. This went on for a mile or two until the car just stopped and a big dude got out of the driver side and approached me. I rolled my window down as he approached and he started yelling something like "turn off your damned hi beams!" as he approached me. I said "They were never on. See?" as I flicked them on to demonstrate. He immediately turned around, got in his car, and continued on. I did not display a badge because I am not a cop.
You propensity for jumping to conclusions has been noted. It's EXACTLY the problem you are having with the cop/kid interaction.
This is a lot of noise, but the bottom line is that the most logical explanation was that his lights were blinding people. LED/fancy/color is irrelevant. Blinding is blinding. It was an asshole move to pull all those people over as if they were at fault for his blinding people. End. Of. Story.
Are you denying science? The "most logical" explanation when the cop specifically implied new lights when he explained that the car was new is that it has new lights. We already know that new lights cause this until they reach a point that they are common enough that they don't stand out. They would never reach that point if they had to dial them down first. As for "blinding is blinding," there is an actual standard that the new lights must conform to. You only seem to care about baseless musings of uninformed people because you hate cops. Your declaration of "the bottom line" and the "end of story" is pretty cute when you are so far off base.
If I were an asshole, I would think so too.
It's not even debatable. "It was a valid stop" even if his lights were too bright because they can pull people over in that state with existing laws regarding hi-beam usage.
You didn't even read the rest of your own post or else you wouldn't have the nerve to say this.
Nope. I presented alternate possibilities that are equally or more likely and you continue to only consider the one where the cop is the bad guy. You dismiss everything based on claims and repeatedly jump to conclusions that support only one possibility. You present claims as proof. You make hard conclusions based on such claims and then try to end discussion with lines like "en of story." You never say that one unproven thing COULD mean something else and you always say that it DOES mean whatever you want it to mean. You are demonstrably biased.
The stop should never have happened in the first place. By the 3rd time you get flashed in a single evening, you should take the car back to the station, have the lights fixed, and get a different vehicle for the night. That is the only response you should have. Pulling someone over under threat of violence is the response of an egotistical narcissistic asshole who should not be granted authority over anybody.
Yep. There's simply no way that his lights weren't in need of fixing. Where do you get this "threat of violence" thing?