Flash a cop because his lights are bright and die

TheSlamma

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7 shots into him, hope that cop feels like a real man.

Like you said, He even admits the headlights are bright cause it's a new car. But he just had to tell that kid in a traffic stop?
 
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TheSlamma

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So much anguish in that facial expression. Glad he took a drama class so he could prepare for the day he got a 1 centimeter surface cut from a 17 year old that maybe weighs in at 140lbs. But hey, he got to kill someone over getting flashed by.. dun dun dun.. HEADLIGHTS!!!
 

HTFOff

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Off camera, Frost shot and killed the young boy. The known details are sparse because the killing happened out of the view of the dash-cam, and the body camera was turned off at that point. However, the officer claims that the young boy attacked him, so he “feared for his life” and killed him, firing 7 shots from his weapon.
Do people even care about facts anymore? There is enough police abuse/absurdity with documented factual evidence. Calling for the pitchforks before we know all there is to know does not help the cause in getting cops to tone it the hell down.
 

Ackmed

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All he had to do was give the license, registration and insurance. What would he have gotten? Probably a warning. Yet he acted like an idiot, recorded the incident and failed to comply. Then after the cop tased him to make him comply and handcuff him, he assaulted the officer. There is no dispute in this. He shot him to stop the threat. The ones crying about 7 shots have obviously never been taught how to stop a threat of been in this situation.

This is several hours old, I saw it this morning. The cop haters are getting slow. It wasn't over headlights, it was over assault and because the kid was on top of him hitting him. But keep trying that angle.

Like usual, listen to commands. But he didn't, and paid for it. No problems with this. Aaaaaand here come the name calling from the usual cop haters.
 

TheSlamma

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All he had to do was give the license, registration and insurance. What would he have gotten? Probably a warning. Yet he acted like an idiot, recorded the incident and failed to comply. Then after the cop tased him to make him comply and handcuff him, he assaulted the officer. There is no dispute in this. He shot him to stop the threat. The ones crying about 7 shots have obviously never been taught how to stop a threat of been in this situation.

This is several hours old, I saw it this morning. The cop haters are getting slow. It wasn't over headlights, it was over assault and because the kid was on top of him hitting him. But keep trying that angle.

Like usual, listen to commands. But he didn't, and paid for it. No problems with this. Aaaaaand here come the name calling from the usual cop haters.
Yep, kid could have just turned over that info and then the cop could go on the rest of the night raging at everyone that flashed him for his brand new car lights.
 

Ackmed

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So much anguish in that facial expression. Glad he took a drama class so he could prepare for the day he got a 1 centimeter surface cut from a 17 year old that maybe weighs in at 140lbs. But hey, he got to kill someone over getting flashed by.. dun dun dun.. HEADLIGHTS!!!

Glad you can tell how big the cut is, not that matters. What matters is that the kid was on top of him hitting him. Do you think that taking the life of a 17 year old and the emotional swing made him look sullen? Do you think the anguish in his face is real, not fake? Take off your obvious blinders. He wasn't killed over headlights, but good try.
 

Mxylplyx

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I'd bet cops are wise enough now to inflict injuries upon themselves after killing an unarmed person, particularly if there are no witnesses. The mere fact that the cop has injuries automatically gives him the benefit of the doubt, something cops are well aware of at this point.
 

MrDudeMan

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Yep, kid could have just turned over that info and then the cop could go on the rest of the night raging at everyone that flashed him for his brand new car lights.

Oddly, no one else was killed even though others had been pulled over for the same reason. The only difference in this case was the kid was trying to fight for his rights in a completely stupid way. I'm not going to comment on the legality of the outcome as I don't know enough to do so, but there's no doubt the cop gave the kid 50 chances to turn that encounter in a different direction.

I dislike the trend in this country just as much as the next guy when it comes to police brutality, but fighting with them on the street and resisting arrest is absolutely not the right way to go about influencing change. Honestly, once someone puts their hands on an officer, I stop caring what happens to them. A police officer is still a human and, therefore, capable of experiencing surges of adrenaline mixed with emotions like fear and anger. Training is only worth so much. Don't push them to that point and the chances of encountering one of the cops that's truly a murderer will be dramatically reduced.

I wish the kid wasn't dead, but I also wish he would have taken one of his many chances to simply obey the law, which probably would have resulted in a simple discussion.
 

Blanky

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Once again a completely dishonest thread title. Nobody was killed for flashing a cop. And you others piling on are being silly, too. As already mentioned cops act like thugs enough we need not start outwardly lying about events that clearly conflict with facts.
 
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TheSlamma

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Glad you can tell how big the cut is, not that matters. What matters is that the kid was on top of him hitting him. Do you think that taking the life of a 17 year old and the emotional swing made him look sullen? Do you think the anguish in his face is real, not fake? Take off your obvious blinders. He wasn't killed over headlights, but good try.
He was killed because a situation that never should have happened (the pullover) was created over ego.

The cop in the video denies the brights multiple times then FINALLY comes clean about it being a new car with bright lights.

What any intelligent human being would have done was either not pulled the guy over knowing that it was an honest mistake based on those new bright lights, or taken the car back the the station and had the lights adjusted. Instead he had to set out and prove a point.
 

Theb

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Sad situation, but once you attack a police officer good outcomes are off the table.
 

TheSlamma

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Oddly, no one else was killed even though others had been pulled over for the same reason. The only difference in this case was the kid was trying to fight for his rights in a completely stupid way. I'm not going to comment on the legality of the outcome as I don't know enough to do so, but there's no doubt the cop gave the kid 50 chances to turn that encounter in a different direction.

I dislike the trend in this country just as much as the next guy when it comes to police brutality, but fighting with them on the street and resisting arrest is absolutely not the right way to go about influencing change. Honestly, once someone puts their hands on an officer, I stop caring what happens to them. A police officer is still a human and, therefore, capable of experiencing surges of adrenaline mixed with emotions like fear and anger. Training is only worth so much. Don't push them to that point and the chances of encountering one of the cops that's truly a murderer will be dramatically reduced.

I wish the kid wasn't dead, but I also wish he would have taken one of his many chances to simply obey the law, which probably would have resulted in a simple discussion.
I don't disagree the kid could have handled it differently. Not 1 bit. To me it's just a situation that never should have even existed.

What it tells me is never try to signal a cop for any reason, even if it means helping him out, you might damage his ego.
 

Blanky

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He was killed because a situation that never should have happened (the pullover) was created over ego.

The cop in the video denies the brights multiple times then FINALLY comes clean about it being a new car with bright lights.

What any intelligent human being would have done was either not pulled the guy over knowing that it was an honest mistake based on those new bright lights, or taken the car back the the station and had the lights adjusted. Instead he had to set out and prove a point.
you're still wrong and here is why: I was pulled over not long ago for expired registration. Upon being pulled over the cop actually apologized to me and immediately sent me on my way because he realized my registration was in fact valid. he was wrong to pull me over. Now, had I started acting like a psycho and attacked him and ended up shot who's fault is that? You are blaming my death on him pulling me over for an invalid reason or do you blame me?

We all know cops are on the lookout for suspicious behavior and sometimes flashing lights can include that. Maybe cop did it for ego, though probably not. And yes you do need to show license while driving--and the "primary" offense can be suspicious like flashing a cop for example.

Ultimately this guy died for the reason a lot of people did by cops: being a stupid ass.
 

bradley

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Feels as though I just watched a snuff film.

So Devon's mobile phone either gets dropped hard or the electronics and capacitive screen are fried due to the stun gun. But why isn't there any footage from the officer's bodycam? Was it as poorly manufactured as the officer's headlights or did the officer simply disengage it?

I'm also not buying the fact that the officer's wounds were anything other than self-inflicted. I'll need to see substantial proof otherwise that likely will never be released. Yet the release of information regarding an insignificant amount of THC in this boy's system is obviously a smear tactic and irrelevant.

The officer clearly knew his headlights were too bright beyond standard or spec. The entire stop was clearly unnecessary.

Instead of stopping vehicles for alerting his rash and unreasonable self, he should have called the problem into the station house and gotten issued a new vehicle. Now a young boy is dead because this officer's delicate ego was more valuable than another human's life.
 

TheSlamma

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you're still wrong and here is why: I was pulled over not long ago for expired registration. Upon being pulled over the cop actually apologized to me and immediately sent me on my way because he realized my registration was in fact valid. he was wrong to pull me over. Now, had I started acting like a psycho and attacked him and ended up shot who's fault is that? You are blaming my death on him pulling me over for an invalid reason or do you blame me?



We all know cops are on the lookout for suspicious behavior and sometimes flashing lights can include that. Maybe cop did it for ego, though probably not. And yes you do need to show license while driving--and the "primary" offense can be suspicious like flashing a cop for example.



Ultimately this guy died for the reason a lot of people did by cops: being a stupid ass.


I don't buy that the cop himself admitted he was flashed multiple times. Your cop didn't pull over 3 other people accidentally for expired tags before pulling you over. By that time he knew every flash was because of those new light HE ADMITTED to

And seriously son. You really think flashing lights is suspicious behavior? Right every bank robber on the gateway flashes their lights all the time cause they want to put on suspicious behavior
 

TheSlamma

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Feels as though I just watched a snuff film.



So Devon's mobile phone either gets dropped hard or the electronics and capacitive screen are fried due to the stun gun. But why isn't there any footage from the officer's bodycam? Was it as poorly manufactured as the officer's headlights or did the officer simply disengage it?



I'm also not buying the fact that the officer's wounds were anything other than self-inflicted. I'll need to see substantial proof otherwise that likely will never be released. Yet the release of information regarding an insignificant amount of THC in this boy's system is obviously a smear tactic and irrelevant.



The officer clearly knew his headlights were too bright beyond standard or spec. The entire stop was clearly unnecessary.



Instead of stopping vehicles for alerting his rash and unreasonable self, he should have called the problem into the station house and gotten issued a new vehicle. Now a young boy is dead because this officer's delicate ego was more valuable than another human's life.


Nice to know not everyone in this thread is hoping we adopt Schutzstaffel tactics
 

Ns1

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Lloyd's office received the investigation on May 27, he said, and spent about three weeks reviewing 29 law enforcement reports, hours of video and audio, an autopsy report, a toxicology report, Frost's medical and personnel file and dispatch records, among other pieces of evidence.

He declined on Tuesday to release that evidence without a Freedom of Information Act request. The State Journal filed a FOIA request with his office Tuesday.

guess we'll just have to wait until the FOIA request to see if those injuries check out.
 

Darwin333

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So much anguish in that facial expression. Glad he took a drama class so he could prepare for the day he got a 1 centimeter surface cut from a 17 year old that maybe weighs in at 140lbs. But hey, he got to kill someone over getting flashed by.. dun dun dun.. HEADLIGHTS!!!

I would really like to know how the kid injured that cop WHILE he was getting tased. The shots came very shortly after the taser and phone flying. So again, how does a kid face down getting tased do that? Probably takes the cop a good second or two in order to drop the taser and pull his firearm.

The kid was being dumb after he was told that he was under arrest and while I support him standing up for his rights I would have given him my ID. The entire reason for the traffic stop was complete bullshit though. Even if his brights weren't on, why in the hell would you waste your time pulling someone over for that especially if you know your lights are brighter than normal.

And the cops wonder why they continue to lose the public trust. A cop can't handle a rather small unarmed 17 year old who he has already tazed without shooting him 7 fucking times. Basically anything is justification for them to shoot you these days.
 

Darwin333

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All he had to do was give the license, registration and insurance. What would he have gotten? Probably a warning. Yet he acted like an idiot, recorded the incident and failed to comply. Then after the cop tased him to make him comply and handcuff him, he assaulted the officer. There is no dispute in this. He shot him to stop the threat. The ones crying about 7 shots have obviously never been taught how to stop a threat of been in this situation.

This is several hours old, I saw it this morning. The cop haters are getting slow. It wasn't over headlights, it was over assault and because the kid was on top of him hitting him. But keep trying that angle.

Like usual, listen to commands. But he didn't, and paid for it. No problems with this. Aaaaaand here come the name calling from the usual cop haters.

How does an officer allow a puny 17 year old kid who is face down on the ground getting tazed to flip the entire situation around and get on top of the cop and start beating him in just a few seconds? If your account is true that asshole has no business being a cop because being able to subdue a single puny unarmed kid without resorting to deadly force should absolutely be a requirement.
 
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