Floppy replacement

[Maximilian]

The poor old thing dosent have a hdd so he cant install an emulator. Dont even think it can access the internet for a virtual floppy.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Turbomax
Dear Corky,
You are right this floppy is very necessary for production.
When this floppy fall down totaly the machinary is stopping.
Dear epsilon Meanwhile please forgive me for my bad english.
Do you have any experience about that kind of replacement. If you interedted I can post to you the cable layout of the 5.25 inch driver.

Just out of interest what is it you produce?

 

[Turbomax]

Dear Mikecel,

I have written many times Toray internet site, even in japanase
but nobody has returned neither to nor to other friends of mine. This company has finished this products 10 years ago and they dont manufacture any more.

Thats why I m trying to find a way to keep these machines in production.

We have 4 this kind machines and only one them is working in near future the last one can stop because we have only one disk remaining.

 

[Turbomax]

Dear Soviet,

when you learn this you might never open your T.V again )

 

[CWilkins32]

You might want to try and get a 5.25 to 3.5 mounting adapter kit to mount a 3.5 floppy to that machine.

Here is one place that carries the 5.25 to 3.5 mounting adapter kit.

5.25 to 3.5 mounting kit

It's priced at $3.99 and that includes the old 5.25 power adapter conversion to work on your 3.5 fdd.

I hope that helps.

 

[heartsurgeon]

why don't you buy a computer system that has a 5.25 floppy drive, Ebay has these cheap. You may need to write your own software to read the information off the floppy disc since i doubt it will be in any file format the operating system (DOS) will recognize. this should not be a problem for a someone familiar with assembly language.

 

[JediJeb]

Originally posted by: CWilkins32
You might want to try and get a 5.25 to 3.5 mounting adapter kit to mount a 3.5 floppy to that machine.

Here is one place that carries the 5.25 to 3.5 mounting adapter kit.

5.25 to 3.5 mounting kit

It's priced at $3.99 and that includes the old 5.25 power adapter conversion to work on your 3.5 fdd.

I hope that helps.

Even if he could use the adapter to mount the drive I doubt that the computer ( we are talking on the line of the TRS80 ) would even recognize it or know how to write to it. It is like wanting to put a 40Gb harddrive on an Atari 800XL ( yea I still have one of those ) It probably can be done, but he needs to have a really good computer/electrical engineer working on the problem. This is going to take a BUNCH of custom design and programming to do because the commands to write to a 3.5" are different than those of writing to a 5.25" drive and someone would have to know what language that machine is using. It was like when I was in college, we had a piece of equipment which ran on a 20bit processor, it had a 3.5 floppy on it but nothing could be read off it with a PC and I have never since seen or heard of a 20bit processor.

To answer the original question, I doubt you are going to find an easy way to convert your equipment to the 3.5" drive. If it is a lack of having 5.25" diskettes you may be able to find some surplus ones on eBay if you are lucky. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but honestly it is going to be really hard to do.

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

Originally posted by: mikecel79
I think everyone here is missing the point. A Z80 processor is not x86 compatible. This is a very old CPU of which many specialty computers and even some consoles were based on (Sega Genesis/Mega Drive). This thing does not run Windows, DOS, or probably even UNIX. It's a PLC machine. The programs are written specifically to run on this type of CPU without an OS or at least a very very basic one that handles input/output only.

We have PLC type machines at work and it's best to contact the manufacturer of the machine instead of asking here. They would be familiar with the architecure of the PLC machine and can help you out. Here is a link to their site. Most people here don't even remember the pre-Windows 3.0 days

Oh yes I do....Lol. Programming an Apple IIe with nothing more than a 5.25 floppy(Man those things were floppy) in BASIC back in 1984-85.

 

[JackBurton]

You guys are so retarded. The answer is obvious. Just plug in a USB pen drive and transfer the data. Oh, don't worry about drivers, I'm sure that state of the art machine is running a fully capable OS to support it.

Seriously dude, WTF? 5.25 drive?

 

[Bleep]

You guys are so retarded. The answer is obvious. Just plug in a USB pen drive and transfer the data.

My guess is that it is a small program to run some kind of machine and the machine is just a DOS programmed machine. A machine this old would not have a USB port, if you remember USB did not even come about until after windows 98 was out for a year or more. It probably is on the order of a Commodore 64.
I would get a 100 mb external zip drive that runs off of the parallel port and transfer the data to that then take the disk to another machine and copy it to a floppy. Cost about $35.00 or less.
Bleep

 

[TazX3k]

New floppy standard? isnt that what the LS120 or Zip wanted to do?
Portable media is dead

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: TazX3k
New floppy standard? isnt that what the LS120 or Zip wanted to do?
Portable media is dead

including thumbdrives?

 

[KBrinks]

dear thread starter,

maybe you should find a hardware forum that is strictly your native tongue... then maybe you cna get your question across in a way that they could understand..

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: TazX3k
New floppy standard? isnt that what the LS120 or Zip wanted to do?
Portable media is dead

floppies still have their uses. great for drivers when one computer doesn't have internet access.

 

[Quixfire]

I understand your main problem, but I don't think converting the existing system to use a different media type is a long-term solution. You need to have a software company write a program that will interface your current hardware to run all four machines from a single data source.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Bleep

You guys are so retarded. The answer is obvious. Just plug in a USB pen drive and transfer the data.

My guess is that it is a small program to run some kind of machine and the machine is just a DOS programmed machine. A machine this old would not have a USB port, if you remember USB did not even come about until after windows 98 was out for a year or more. It probably is on the order of a Commodore 64.
I would get a 100 mb external zip drive that runs off of the parallel port and transfer the data to that then take the disk to another machine and copy it to a floppy. Cost about $35.00 or less.
Bleep

Dude, I was just kidding. USB wasn't supported until the later versions of Windows 95 and I HIGHLY doubt he is even running that. Most likely 3.1 or earlier. Also, USB pen drives are only natively supported with Windows 2000 or later. I'm basically saying he has a crap machine.

 

[RS3RS]

No way that thing would run Windows 95, or 3.1. I don't even believe it will run DOS. We're talking OLD here.

On a different note, reading through the posts gave me a good laugh

 

[mikecel79]

USB wasn't supported until the later versions of Windows 95 and I HIGHLY doubt he is even running that. Most likely 3.1 or earlier.

No I can guarantee it's not even a Microsoft OS. As he states in his above post:

but On Toray there is not USB port the microprocessor is Z 80 is made on 1989

No Microsoft OS, not even DOS, was ported to the Z80 processor.

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
You guys are so retarded. The answer is obvious. Just plug in a USB pen drive and transfer the data. Oh, don't worry about drivers, I'm sure that state of the art machine is running a fully capable OS to support it.

Seriously dude, WTF? 5.25 drive?

I believe the retard would be you man.
what part of a PLC system that runs off a EPROM do you not understand?
Older PLC's dont have USB ports...and he needs a 5.25 to program the thing....a USB pen drive isnt gonna work... Hell man do you even know what PLC is man?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin

Originally posted by: JackBurton
You guys are so retarded. The answer is obvious. Just plug in a USB pen drive and transfer the data. Oh, don't worry about drivers, I'm sure that state of the art machine is running a fully capable OS to support it.

Seriously dude, WTF? 5.25 drive?

I believe the retard would be you man.
what part of a PLC system that runs off a EPROM do you not understand?
Older PLC's dont have USB ports...and he needs a 5.25 to program the thing....a USB pen drive isnt gonna work... Hell man do you even know what PLC is man?

WTF part about, "I was just kidding" do you not understand? I was being sarcastic. I thought referring to his system as "state of the art" would have definitely give that away. :roll:

 

[imported_Nacelle]

This has to be the funniest thread I've read in a long time.