Florida GOP Voter Suppression Effort Poised to Backfire Spectacularly

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K1052

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Florida certainly seems to have Bloomberg's undivided attention.
 

zzyzxroad

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Oh I'm well aware that FL loves locking people up. Don't get caught doing bad shit in FL unless you are a real estate developer.

When I lived in South Florida I had a sense that you could bribe your way out of almost anything there.
 

cytg111

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I would have loved to see Trumps face when he heard/hears about this.
You know how that computes in Trumps brain though
1. Fucking dems keep cheating
2. I gotta cheat more to win!
And he is going to cheat your country right off the edge.
 

hal2kilo

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When I lived in South Florida I had a sense that you could bribe your way out of almost anything there.
Seriously, a guy who used to work for the company I retired from got busted in a John sting in Cocoa Beach FL of all places.
 

MrSquished

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Isn't this too little too late?

I'm going to try to think of it as Just enough just in time.
 

zzyzxroad

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All of the people I went to high school with who ended up in prison are now born again trump loving idiots. Are there statistics on party affiliation of the ex-cons in Florida?
 

K1052

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Depends on the follow through I think. Paying off their debts is great. Now you need to get them registered and to show up on election day (or mail in as applicable)

They targeted these people because they are already registered. They voted in the primary then the court ruling came down after that they could not vote again until their fees were paid. It's a pretty smart application of cash imo.
 

K1052

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All of the people I went to high school with who ended up in prison are now born again trump loving idiots. Are there statistics on party affiliation of the ex-cons in Florida?


The voting effort targets mostly Black and Latino felons in Florida who registered to vote while the law was in question — populations that have historically backed Democrats in larger numbers.
 

hal2kilo

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All of the people I went to high school with who ended up in prison are now born again trump loving idiots. Are there statistics on party affiliation of the ex-cons in Florida?
This has been my theory all along. I assume that the most reliable Dem voting group among the inmates would in fact be black. Did not know for sure what the makeup of the FL prison population was until I did some checking. Well, the majority of the prison population is black so I now see how this can be helpful.
Sadly, I guess maybe except for like Idaho, most prison populations are majority black or black and Hispanic these days.
 

Fenixgoon

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They targeted these people because they are already registered. They voted in the primary then the court ruling came down after that they could not vote again until their fees were paid. It's a pretty smart application of cash imo.
In that case, very smart indeed!
 

zzyzxroad

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The voting effort targets mostly Black and Latino felons in Florida who registered to vote while the law was in question — populations that have historically backed Democrats in larger numbers.

Thanks, missed that.
 
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BUTCH1

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I don't care what the say about Bloomberg, love his style.

He's not a slick presentation as a person but he's a totally self-made man, unlike Dump his daddy didn't give him $700 mil to start in business and he's a very very rich man now. The fact that he'll spend big to kick Trump in the nuts almost makes him a legend to me.
 
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Muse

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He's not a slick presentation as a person but he's a totally self-made man, unlike Dump his daddy didn't give him $700 mil to start in business and he's a very very rich man now. The fact that he'll spend big to kick Trump in the nuts almost makes him a legend to me.
Heard he's donating 100 million dollars to promote Biden's bid to take Florida. At the time FL was neck and neck ... 48% to 48%, that was about 2 weeks ago. See today where Biden's showing a 1.5% lead.
 
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nickqt

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Heard he's donating 100 million dollars to promote Biden's bid to take Florida. At the time FL was neck and neck ... 48% to 48%, that was about 2 weeks ago. See today where Biden's showing a 1.5% lead.
1.5% lead?

What's the MOE?
 

blackangst1

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Remember how Florida votes to allow ex-felons to vote after completing their sentences? Remember how the GOP lead Florida state government immediately tried to stop it by requiring all fines and fees to be paid before allowing ex-felons to regain the right to vote?

Turns out the bill they passed ha a reconciliation amendment that allows courts to waive fines and fees if they choose.

Heavily democratic counties have set up “rocket docket” courts to quickly waive fines and fees (except for victim restitution) for felons who’ve completed the rest of their sentences allowing them to regain the franchise

Republican counties are of course requiring all fines and fees to be paid disenfranchising their residents.

So it looks likely that GOP counties will prevent some democratic leaning felons from voting while also disenfranchising their own supporters. While democratic counties will allow many more democrat felons to vote.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ing-rights-amendment-4-counties-poll-tax.html

BWAHHHHH

Only democratic?
 

cytg111

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Only democratic?

Wtf dude?

...
So it looks likely that GOP counties will prevent some democratic leaning felons from voting while also disenfranchising their own supporters. While democratic counties will allow many more democrat felons to vote.
...

Its like you started coloring and then stopped right at the answer to the question you post next...
You get the math right? The assumption here is that if its 60/40 the GOP is good with losing the 40 cause 60 hurts the dems more.
Its like, very very, basic math... coincidently, this concept precisely, I have observed to go over a few conservatives heads here.
Then you explain it to them.
Then they'll say ok but decide to still not get it.
Then next topic you'll have the same argument again.
I must admit the mental gymnastics fascinate me a bit.
 

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Depends on the follow through I think. Paying off their debts is great. Now you need to get them registered and to show up on election day (or mail in as applicable)
Yeah but I'm sure it's not something that happens overnight. If a felon wants to pay his debts in order to vote, how long would that take? I would bet it'd be months.
 

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Yeah but I'm sure it's not something that happens overnight. If a felon wants to pay his debts in order to vote, how long would that take? I would bet it'd be months.
A really long time since some counties don't even have an amount owed. People with the means to pay off their debts literally are not able to in some locales.

The people voted and the Republicans in the state legislature took away that power.... yet those same people will apparently vote for Republicans again.
 

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A really long time since some counties don't even have an amount owed. People with the means to pay off their debts literally are not able to in some locales.

The people voted and the Republicans in the state legislature took away that power.... yet those same people will apparently vote for Republicans again.
These were targeted individuals that they identified and could help right away.
Look like its a done deal and this will be cleared up by the Oct 5th deadline.


"Desmond Meade, executive director of the Florida Rights and Restoration Coalition, said the organization would outline on Wednesday their plans to pay off the fines and get the 32,000 felons registered to vote before the 5 October deadline."
 

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These were targeted individuals that they identified and could help right away.
Look like its a done deal and this will be cleared up by the Oct 5th deadline.


"Desmond Meade, executive director of the Florida Rights and Restoration Coalition, said the organization would outline on Wednesday their plans to pay off the fines and get the 32,000 felons registered to vote before the 5 October deadline."
Wow... I'm stunned. Absolutely stunned. This is a remarkable election strategy. I'm curious why the democratic party hasn't thought of doing this before or why they're not doing it in other places. They certainly have the money.
 

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Wow... I'm stunned. Absolutely stunned. This is a remarkable election strategy. I'm curious why the democratic party hasn't thought of doing this before or why they're not doing it in other places. They certainly have the money.
Ensuring everyone can vote isn't a strategy it's democracy. They are simply countering the vote suppression efforts of the GOP. Nationwide more votes see cast for democrats at both levels of congress and for the presidency. This was even true at times when Republicans controlled all 3 levels of government. Republicans have manipulated the system to ensure minority rule through gerrymandering and abusing the electoral College. Obviously the real problem are the ignorant people that for for these clowns thinking they will do what they say.

Anyway, because of the GOP gaming the system, dems are digging for more votes, to win by an even wider margin, in hopes of being at equal power. How nice it would be to have the people's vote matter equally across the country.
 
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