Sigh, right now you can purchase any given long gun at age 18, primarily for hunting reasons. Same for long gun ammunition. If it's old enough for someone to vote for their leader, it's probably old enough to plink cans and/or hunt for their family.
Why does one have to be older than a legal adult to buy a gun?
Why does one have to be older to drink than to vote? Irrelevant to my point.
Why does one have to be older than a legal adult to buy a gun?
You have to be older to drink because states take the federal government bribe to make it that way. Also, to be fair, alcohol kills FAR more people than guns do.
We can go round and round about this, but the fact is people are considered grown-ass adults at 18, are expected to pay taxes, get a job, make babies, drive a car, vote, all that shit. In days long past, people were stabbing each other in the face by 12-15 as part of that nation's conscripted military, and 16 is early enough for the US Military with parental approval, so in the grand scheme of things, letting an 18 year old of sound mind buy a rifle pegs a solid 0.0 on my list of shit I have concerns about.I know it's Merica fuck yeah! I want to shoot cans blah blah. Who cares? I know our government is fucked up, I know laws are fucked up. That doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it. There are valid points all around. I am not for taking away guns and saying we need 10000 different regulations. But we need something, I'm sorry, it's fucking insane anyone can walk in and buy a gun with little to no effort. I needed a stronger background check for my job than I needed for a gun.
Failure #1 a punk ass teenager can buy the AR-15 legally.
That's the biggest failure IMO. Are there other failures? Absolutely, but I'm, fucking tired of the non stop deflection away from gun laws.
My original question why was it ok to sell him the AR-15. Your response was because it is legal. I replied so just because it is legal you are ok with it. However I did leave off the question mark.Fucking hell Homer. Where did I say I was ok with selling him an AR? Current law is ok with it. People are asking how he was able to buy one...Doesn't take a moron to figure out the how. It takes an entire political system and public to change that.
The rest of your response fucking agreed with what I asked and said. Go back and read what you responded to.
We can go round and round about this, but the fact is people are considered grown-ass adults at 18, are expected to pay taxes, get a job, make babies, drive a car, vote, all that shit. In days long past, people were stabbing each other in the face by 12-15 as part of that nation's conscripted military, and 16 is early enough for the US Military with parental approval, so in the grand scheme of things, letting an 18 year old of sound mind buy a rifle pegs a solid 0.0 on my list of shit I have concerns about.
In days long past, people were stabbing each other in the face by 12-15 as part of that nation's conscripted military
Now we're talking about background checks, primarily mental health based, which we have a common ground to stand on. I would fully endorse full mental health screening of all young adults, even beyond simply to buy firearms. I think we need a solid handle on the mental health status of the US citizenry, regardless of age really. It should be akin to a yearly dental exam, except actually followed by people.I agree and disagree. But we don't even have solid background checks. We should. I think we could both agree he was not of sound mind, which we can't find out without some basic restrictions.
Primarily because of infant mortality rates, not due to people living shorter lives.Back when life expectancy was about 35.
that's weird. You guys voted for a game show host as POTUS only because he produces headlines and TV ratings. It's weird that you don't realize that your brain is doing this.
Now we're talking about background checks, primarily mental health based, which we have a common ground to stand on. I would fully endorse full mental health screening of all young adults, even beyond simply to buy firearms. I think we need a solid handle on the mental health status of the US citizenry, regardless of age really. It should be akin to a yearly dental exam, except actually followed by people.
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but the murderer is a white supremacist and an enthusiastic Trump supporter. Color me shocked.
Guess we know who radicalized this terrorist.
Another round of whataboutism?
Now we're talking about background checks, primarily mental health based, which we have a common ground to stand on. I would fully endorse full mental health screening of all young adults, even beyond simply to buy firearms. I think we need a solid handle on the mental health status of the US citizenry, regardless of age really. It should be akin to a yearly dental exam, except actually followed by people.
Statistically speaking, it is isolated. These incidents are horrific, but even if we had 5 a day, that'd represent less than 2k individuals committing these acts per year, which represents approximately %0.0015 of US households per year. I won't bother to run the numbers on other fatality types (intended or unintended).Ok we have posters here saying we need to find out where the system failed.
While I can understand what you're saying, if this was an isolated incident, we could be asking that. Unfortunately this happens too much to say that the system we have now failed. With the how often this happens it shows that our system as a whole is worthless. It's not a kink in the system, our system as a whole does not work. We need to change the way guns and ammo are sold and regulated. What we have now does not work.
If you are fine with not changing how we regulate firearms then you are fine with keeping this cycle of children being murdered.