Well of course he did.
If I were religious I would see trump as the devil bringing in the Apocalypse
This helps out a lot, too......
Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ng-obama-era-gun-checks/ar-BBJbAzg?li=BBnbfcQ
Now here's more of a philosophical question (and possibly irrelevant). Do you feel it's better for someone to be merely subdued from the notion of something like mass-murder, or would it be better for such a thing to be identified (through whatever that would look like) and dealt with directly. I guess I mean, is it better to have active mitigation measures (such as regular, direct evaluation) or passives ones (such as waiting periods for gun purchases).
I like the cut of your jib.I think society needs to recognize and respect the humanity of those we disenfranchise. That is the way to stop this.
Some do, most don't. Besides, metal detectors need to be manned to matter. My HS growing up (large) had some 20 entrances across campus, and no real possible way to fence everything off military-style (not that they could afford that either).Do schools not have metal detectors?
Do schools not have metal detectors?
Some do, most don't. Besides, metal detectors need to be manned to matter. My HS growing up (large) had some 20 entrances across campus, and no real possible way to fence everything off military-style (not that they could afford that either).
If you limit entry and make students go through airport style screening, you're making a long line of sitting ducks in a shooting gallery.
I do. Works for suicide. There won't ever be enough evidence to really study this and prove anything, though. Still, there's evidence that this guy fantasized about doing this for like a year.
I am. There will surely be incidents but the vast majority of people would fold quickly.
What do you think is the role of other mass killings in motivating a potential mass murderer? I keep hearing that many of these mass shooters were inspired by Columbine, while the Columbine killers said in their journals that they were inspired by the Oklahoma City bomber. Are emulating, or perhaps outdoing, these other acts a necessary part of the fantasy?
I am wondering if we're experiencing a cluster or mass killings that is essentially feeding off itself.
Like a mantrap? Would likely never pass fire code, never mind the fact it would be un-affordable. Frankly I think this is just trying to find a technical solution for a people problem.Dang 20 entrances.
I don't know the technical aspects of a metal detector, but it couldn't trigger 2 doors to close if it's set off and thus trapping someone within?
Maybe the partial answer is to make schools like compounds with check points in and out? Terribly inconvenient, but it's a start.
We had mock emulators of Columbine like, the week after it happened in my HS. People started calling in bomb/gun threats from the payphones in the school lobby. Thrills, tapping into lust for power, skipping tests they didn't study for, who knows. Had like 4 within a month before they just disconnected the phones. This was a bit early for ubiquitous cellphones.Emulating? I don't really see that. But yeah if you see other people attaining the power you seek, that certainly adds power to the fantasy. There is an escalation in scale that also seems to happen. Outdoing someone enhances the power.
you deserve nothing but contempt, now commence with the off fucking.Do you think guns make it harder to cause harm? Explain your comment.
True americans right? Very fine people indeed.Looks like he's another RW white supremacist terrorist. Trump lover of course. Very fine people on both sides.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-trained-with-florida-white-supremacist-group-leader-says
White supremacist. Fascination with murdering and torturing animals. History of violence. Gun nut. Expelled from school and previously banned from bringing bookbags.
But should he get a gun? GOP says hell yes! 2A FTW! All the little Nazis need their guns. It's what the founding fathers intended.
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PARKLAND, Florida—Nikolas Cruz, the man accused of killing 17 people in a Florida high school, was a member of a “white separatist paramilitary proto-fascist organization,” the group told The Daily Beast.
Cruz, 19, is accused of opening fire inside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Prior to the shooting, he trained with the Republic of Florida, the group’s captain Jordan Jereb said (as first reported by the Anti-Defamation League). The RoF seeks to create a “white ethnostate” in Florida, according to its website, a view that Cruz supposedly shared.
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Jereb said Cruz belonged to a RoF “cell” from Clearwater and drove up with members to Tallahassee to do paramilitary training. RoF was recently operating in Tallahassee and attempting to court new members, according to a local news report from last year. The group posts videos of training montages on the internet with members in fatigues brandishing weapons.
“I’m not trying to glorify it, but he was pretty efficient in what he did,” Jereb said. “He probably used that training to do what he did yesterday. Nobody I know told him to do that, he just freaked out.”
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Cruz received at least one of his guns through the white supremacist group, according to Jereb.."
Luckily for sane Americans that understand why the 2A is so important, posts on overly left AT P&N are no better than thoughts and prayers.
I tried to donate to the NRA this morning, seems like the site was having an issue. But they should have some of my money today, if not tomorrow. When the libs want to discuss actual good ideas to help curb gun violence, let me know. But until that time, while they're still talking about semi-auto bans, capacity bans, suppressor bans, "assault weapons" bans, suing manufacturers, ammo bans / taxes, and other do nothing feel good garbage that harms the rights of all of us, they'll continue to face very stiff opposition.
Why don't we just ban them all? If you want to hunt take a bow and arrow out there or a spear.Because a semi-automatic AR is a rifle styled with bits all over it and painted black. Usually has a magazine that holds a handful more than a stock/unmodified hunting rifle of equivalent caliber. It's just a goddamned rifle.
EDIT: Here, ignore all the gun nutter garbage, the picture is the point I'm trying to make:
Like a mantrap? Would likely never pass fire code, never mind the fact it would be un-affordable. Frankly I think this is just trying to find a technical solution for a people problem.
There is always the North Korea "3 generation" solution to these types of problem.If someone commits a mass murder (or other serious crime), they execute 3 entire generations of your whole family! Talk about extreme deterrent to report and take care of shady behavior!Yes trap 'em!
The people problem would be even more expensive. It would be minority report territory I think to make it work. The people problem goes beyond the mentally ill if the reports that someone had already warned the FBI about this kids postings about wanting to be a shooter.
You can't ban guns so that's out. Knifes kill too as well as baseball bats. You need to trap or pat down kids and that obviously only works for schools.
The real solution and it's also expensive, yet to be developed is either guns or bullets that can be shot down or personal armor.