Florida High School Shooting

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momeNt

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Shooters appears to be in custody. He is going to get a trial, medical experts examining him, throngs of reporters at his court proceedings. His image is a beacon to the next troubled kid telling them "this can be you too someday".
 

Engineer

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The people on the brink of self-harm or desperation definitely care about the media exposure afforded to people who decide to suicide by cop in a school or go out with a bang. Without that there is far less incentive to commit these acts.

I mean it's either that, or people finally realized after hundreds of years that guns can be used for mass shootings and not just killing yourself, or killing a single person in a domestic situation / heated argument.

Then we should just quit showing it as news and don't give a fuck unless it happens to us. No better way at this point.....
 

allisolm

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And the sheriff now says there are fatalities as well as at least 14 wounded.
 

purbeast0

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And the sheriff now says there are fatalities as well as at least 14 wounded.
One of the teachers I heard talking said one of the other teachers walked past 3 bodies that were lifeless.

And then a student said that there was blood everywhere at one of the shooting scenes.
 

Jaskalas

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I realize that most of the rest of you don't actually care about this event. You just want to vomit out the same crap you post every time a shooting happens. None of which has anything to do with the actual event and none of which solves anything and none of which matters to anyone but you and all of which you could just copy and paste from other threads where you've posted the same things ad infinitum nauseum.

For anyone who is interested the Broward County Sheriff says "So far we have at least 14 victims. Victims have been and continue to be transported to Broward Health Medical Center and Broward Health North hospital. "

If the forum admins would like to split the discussion into two topics, we could have a [News] tagged thread where anything political (gun control, etc) could be taken action upon and/or moved to a separate thread for that purpose.
 
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Jeeebus

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This is just a couple miles down the street from me.Very heartwrenching. We know several people with kids there (all safe but shaken) and that is the school we've been looking at for our kids in the future (they're in elementary currently).

Oddly, the elementary school was emptied this morning with a dozen police cars and firetrucks all around. We were told some a/c compressor was malfunctioning and they smelled smoke, but at this point, who know what's to be believed anymore.
 

dank69

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I realize that most of the rest of you don't actually care about this event. You just want to vomit out the same crap you post every time a shooting happens. None of which has anything to do with the actual event and none of which solves anything and none of which matters to anyone but you and all of which you could just copy and paste from other threads where you've posted the same things ad infinitum nauseum.

For anyone who is interested the Broward County Sheriff says "So far we have at least 14 victims. Victims have been and continue to be transported to Broward Health Medical Center and Broward Health North hospital. "
It's okay, this is just a false flag. The victims don't really exist. Just another part of the liberal agenda.

Agenda for what? For their agenda of course!
 
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SlowSpyder

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Now is not the time to talk about gun control


Agreed. We've already had the discussion and have put limits in place. Violent crime is trending down, mass shootings may be up, but the overall trend is that less people die from firearms every year ( and yet more and more guns are "out there"). These are things that closely parallel tobacco statistics, only guns owned is going up while less people smoke. When tobacco is brought up here I've been told that the discussion has already been had and limits are in place, use and death is declining.
 

momeNt

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If he is a former student, why is he allowed on campus at all?

I doubt the school is secure enough to prohibit people sneaking in during the start of classes or breaks, there was also a fire drill apparently so if they left the school he could have entered with them. He also could have shot his way in.
 
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I doubt the school is secure enough to prohibit people sneaking in during the start of classes or breaks, there was also a fire drill apparently so if they left the school he could have entered with them. He also could have shot his way in.
The fire alarm was part of the event. Likely pulled by him or someone else when the shooting began. No one does a fire drill ten minutes before end of class.
 

sandorski

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I realize that most of the rest of you don't actually care about this event. You just want to vomit out the same crap you post every time a shooting happens. None of which has anything to do with the actual event and none of which solves anything and none of which matters to anyone but you and all of which you could just copy and paste from other threads where you've posted the same things ad infinitum nauseum.

For anyone who is interested the Broward County Sheriff says "So far we have at least 14 victims. Victims have been and continue to be transported to Broward Health Medical Center and Broward Health North hospital. "

You are not wrong, but what you are seeing is expression of the fact that people have no way to solve this issue. Or to be more accurate, there is a failure of Leadership from those elected to lead. People are tired of mourning the dead who die for no good reason repeatedly when there are demonstrable ways to prevent those deaths. Government no longer listens to the People.
 

momeNt

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The fire alarm was part of the event. Likely pulled by him or someone else when the shooting began. No one does a fire drill ten minutes before end of class.

I thought they said it was earlier in the day... maybe I'm wrong.

CNN:
There had been a fire drill at the school earlier in the day, leading some to believe at first that the afternoon incident was another drill, a student told CNN affiliate WSVN. "Everyone just started freaking out."
 

Stopsignhank

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This is just a couple miles down the street from me.Very heartwrenching. We know several people with kids there (all safe but shaken) and that is the school we've been looking at for our kids in the future (they're in elementary currently).

Oddly, the elementary school was emptied this morning with a dozen police cars and firetrucks all around. We were told some a/c compressor was malfunctioning and they smelled smoke, but at this point, who know what's to be believed anymore.
My daughter was involved in a school shooting a couple years ago. She knew one of the girls that was killed. It really changes the way you look at a school shooting when it is so close to you.
 
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I thought they said it was earlier in the day... maybe I'm wrong.

CNN:
Ahhh missed that. Heard a kid say they normally do drills in the morning when they were taking about the alarm so unless he hid all day somehow I doubt that was how he got it. It’s an open air school anyway. Outdoor hallways. Not easy to secure.
 

brycejones

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You are not wrong, but what you are seeing is expression of the fact that people have no way to solve this issue. Or to be more accurate, there is a failure of Leadership from those elected to lead. People are tired of mourning the dead who die for no good reason repeatedly when there are demonstrable ways to prevent those deaths. Government no longer listens to the People.

I disagree somewhat. There are people like Slow (and they are not an insignificant % of the population, and probably make up a significant chunk of GOP primary voters) who are willing to accept anything if it means they can keep their compensation devices nearby at night. So on some level the lack of leadership is a direct result of politicians who depend on voters like slow listening to them.

I'm disgusted and tired of hearing that apparently the only thing exceptional about America is that we can't do anything to fix our problems. American exceptionalism has been transformed by the right wing in this country into an excuse to do nothing.
 

SlowSpyder

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My daughter was involved in a school shooting a couple years ago. She knew one of the girls that was killed. It really changes the way you look at a school shooting when it is so close to you.

I'm a parent myself and can't imagine how hard that'd be, hitting that close to home has to be scary. I hope common sense can be used to help limit these events. What makes it happen so much more today than it did in the past? High capacity semi-auto firearms have been available for decades. Today fewer people per capita own guns, so they are in less homes. In the past kids were generally not as removed from guns as they are today. Society is progressing. Yet we see more of these things today than we have in the past. Its a tough nut to crack, but I do hope we can find some answers.
 
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