Florida High School Shooting

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allisolm

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The Sheriff is speaking now and he said 17 dead and that number could rise. The shooter was a former student of the high school who was expelled.

edit: Oops. MomentsofSanity beat me to it.
 

brianmanahan

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it's so weird how 20 years ago, columbine seemed huge with 12 students killed

and now the story doesn't last more than a couple days unless you have at least 50 people killed
 
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Jaskalas

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If he is a former student, why is he allowed on campus at all?

They try to create barriers but really, unless we tear down and rebuild all schools as super max prisons, gunmen will still easily find their way inside.
 
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Is it time to start making fun of a reporter that says the round travels at 2000 feet a minute instead of 2000 feet a second or used the wrong manufacturer of the gun or worst of all calls a magazine a clip?
Let’s focus on the important stuff listed above
 

jackstar7

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I knew we should have talked about guns when the Trump wife got sent that letter. Damnit!
 

sportage

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Some will say this IS NOT the right time to talk gun control. But this is EXACTLY the right time to talk gun control.
Could this have been avoided? Probably not, BUT....
Listening to the audio it was apparent the shooter had weapon(s) of mass destruction on him.
The weapons that our military carry into battle.
THIS MUST STOP!!!!

Making ALL of these guns/weapons illegal and absolutely un-accessabe, un-obtainable, un-purchasable. Weapons only available to the hands of our military IN ACTION.....
Doing THIS would cut down on the carnage.
Not the violence per se, but on the carnage.

If a shooter only has a shotgun or basic hand gun at their disposal then when the shooting begins the victim(s) have more time to run away, hide, get away from the danger.
But when the shooter opens up with multiple shots per second as is the case with assault weapons, everyone within eye site will be gunned down. PERIOD!
No time for a victim to respond, no time to get out of the way, no time to run.

Until we address and BAN these assault weapons of mass destruction, until that day comes we will lose a lot of innocent children and adults meantime.
There is definitely a connection here. Dots easily connected.
And action that MUST take place from congress, but don't hold your breath.
Our NRA controlled congress and legislators are as guilty as the shooters themselves.
To take no action when action could have been taken, you become a co-conspirator.
This shooter should get life in prison, at least, and so should any congress man or woman that refuses to address and pass gun control to ban these assault weapons.
Toss them ALL into prison.

This is your America, ugly as it is.
 

pmv

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Shooters appears to be in custody. He is going to get a trial, medical experts examining him, throngs of reporters at his court proceedings. His image is a beacon to the next troubled kid telling them "this can be you too someday".

Do you not think there's a bit of diminishing returns though? I'm barely paying attention to this story on the news, because it seems like there's one every couple of weeks from over there. This guy is not going to get the attention that the Columbine pair did (I can still remember their names, unlike pretty much every school yard shooter since).

On the one hand that might make such wickedness less 'rewarding' for the attention-seeker, but on the other it might just lead them to escalate and attempt to out-do their predecessors.
 

Darwin333

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They try to create barriers but really, unless we tear down and rebuild all schools as super max prisons, gunmen will still easily find their way inside.

Not to mention that if he's willing to shoot a shitload of students then he sure as hell won't mind shooting whoever is guarding the door. I can't think of another way that doesn't violate the fire code and potentially trapping kids inside a burning a building.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Not to mention that if he's willing to shoot a shitload of students then he sure as hell won't mind shooting whoever is guarding the door. I can't think of another way that doesn't violate the fire code and potentially trapping kids inside a burning a building.
There isn't a realistic way to halt it from happening in this fashion, as any reasonably intelligent or desperate person is going to make it happen, regardless. Steps need to be taken to get in front of incidences like this, unfortunately I have no idea what that looks like.
 

Darwin333

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Shooters appears to be in custody. He is going to get a trial, medical experts examining him, throngs of reporters at his court proceedings. His image is a beacon to the next troubled kid telling them "this can be you too someday".

That part actually surprised me, don't most of these assholes off themselves before getting caught?
 

Puffnstuff

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The twisted mindset to kill indiscriminately is the core issue here and a person like this will always find a way to do their deed. With that said where were the school police at when he started shooting?
 
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