What do you think is the role of other mass killings in motivating a potential mass murderer? I keep hearing that many of these mass shooters were inspired by Columbine, while the Columbine killers said in their journals that they were inspired by the Oklahoma City bomber. Are emulating, or perhaps outdoing, these other acts a necessary part of the fantasy?
I am wondering if we're experiencing a cluster of mass killings that is essentially feeding off itself.
I guess I mean, is it better to have active mitigation measures (such as regular, direct evaluation) or passives ones (such as waiting periods for gun purchases).
you are a disgusting tool. I truly wish endless pain and misery on you.
It would seem so. Heard a discussion on news radio earlier today. The discussion concerned a report published by two psychiatrists studying mass shooters. The gist of it was these people (loners and outcasts) seem to have a sense of community or belonging to each other even though they never actually meet. One of those in the discussion remarked that he thought it similar to the "Lone Wolfs" who feel connected to ISIS even though they've never had any actual contact.
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yup, a rancid, feckless, shitstain of a human.Notice he made an effort to donate to the NRA rather than the shooting victims, as clearly guns are the true victims here we need to protect.
And here's the typical Dem version...
1. OOOMMMMMFFFFFGGGGGG, GUNSSSSSS!!!!!!!! MUST CONTROL GUUUUNNNNNSSSS!!!!!!!!! THE NRA IS EEEEVVIIIIILLLLL!!!!!!
2. Identify victims
2.1 If any members of politically approved victims groups injured / killed, play up the tragedy, highlighting as many of the victims as possible, repeat step 1 louder, then proceed to step 3
2.2 If victims are mostly white men and / or Christians, ignore victims, repeat step 1 louder, go to step 4
3. Identify shooter
3.1 If shooter is a straight white male, go to step 4 after repeating step 1 even louder
3.2 If shooter is a member of a politically approved victim group, go to step 5 after repeating step 1 even louder
4. Float the accusation the that shooter is a conservative
4.1 If the accusation turns out to be false, downplay the shooter and still try to imply he's a conservative, repeat step 1
4.2 If the accusation turns out to be true, condemn all white males and conservatives in general, repeat step 2.1, repeat step 1 louder still
5 Downplay the shooter, impugn anyone that attempts to blame him / her/ or whichever of the 57 accepted genders the shooter identifies as, accuse the blamers of racism, xenophobia, islamophobia, homophobia, or other phobia / hatred as applicable, encourage empathy for the shooter, repeat step 1 again
How many kids are you willing to see murdered?So how many unwilling would you be willing to kill to remove them from their guns? So we go from the periodic terrorist/mentally ill/evil person killing a dozen people at a school to widespread instances of soldiers being asked to engage previously law abiding and non-threatening gun owning citizens who won’t willingly comply?
Remind me what the GOP (with control of Congress and the Executive) have done since Pulse to combat mass shootings?
Or since Vegas?
Anything on the mental health front?
Anything on the gun control front?
Anything?
Close it back up, dumbnuts.True.
That said gun policy alone isn't the only issue here. It's an issue of culture, social media, 24/7 news media, and I hate to say this... video games.
There... I opened that box.
That's one option, it's not going to be an easy process to do such a thing, though.Why don't we just ban them all? If you want to hunt take a bow and arrow out there or a spear.
Or figure out what makes people tick a little better, and try to get in front of incidents like this.Yes trap 'em!
The people problem would be even more expensive. It would be minority report territory I think to make it work. The people problem goes beyond the mentally ill if the reports that someone had already warned the FBI about this kids postings about wanting to be a shooter.
You can't ban guns so that's out. Knifes kill too as well as baseball bats. You need to trap or pat down kids and that obviously only works for schools.
The real solution and it's also expensive, yet to be developed is either guns or bullets that can be shot down or personal armor.
How many kids are you willing to see murdered?
It's okay, you don't have to answer. It's obvious as many as would come between you and your guns.
Notice he made an effort to donate to the NRA rather than the shooting victims, as clearly guns are the true victims here we need to protect.
That's one option, it's not going to be an easy process to do such a thing, though.
Or figure out what makes people tick a little better, and try to get in front of incidents like this.
There is always the North Korea "3 generation" solution to these types of problem.If someone commits a mass murder (or other serious crime), they execute 3 entire generations of your whole family! Talk about extreme deterrent to report and take care of shady behavior!
How many kids are you willing to see murdered?
It's okay, you don't have to answer. It's obvious as many as would come between you and your guns.
Nothing could have prevented this.
You gunners are getting nervous again, eh? You know the tide is starting to turn and your precious toys are going to be taken away.
Better up your rhetoric game, because right now you're flailing and it'll be an easy win to come and get 'em, just as you knew was inevitable.
There is always the North Korea "3 generation" solution to these types of problem.If someone commits a mass murder (or other serious crime), they execute 3 entire generations of your whole family! Talk about extreme deterrent to report and take care of shady behavior!
Check out Cabelas in Canada:
https://www.cabelas.ca/product/97723/russian-sks-semi-auto-rifle-w-hardwood-stock
There are a lot more restrictions in Canada when it comes to firearms but people can still purchase "assault rifles." Just not thr scary black ones. And even though it is limited to 5 rounds it only takes a little practice to reload a SKS very quickly.
You can do some damage with a SKS.
So why aren't there as many mass shootings in Canada? Could it be that guns are not responsible for the violence in the U.S.?
I know its a liberals wet dream to have guns disappear in the U.S. but it will never happen. Even if it did.... the problem that actually is the cause of this type of violence still exists. An islamic terrorist in Nice, France killed twice as many people than in Las Vegas in half the time.... without using a gun.
interchange said:I think society needs to recognize and respect the humanity of those we disenfranchise. That is the way to stop this.
I've always hated how quickly we find a way to segregate someone doing something horrible from the rest of us, for instance, with this one. Within 24 hours, we've got him shunted off as a crazed, MAGA-hat wearing, white supremacist that's far, far removed from the rest of us, to be treated as an exile and an outcast. To be cast into the flames of vengeance. We never look at anyone until after it happens, at which point they're no longer 'one of us' anymore, so there's no responsibility on us anymore.
\Slow is gunning for the top spot as well.
Here's the problem with your argument: Canada has much stricter gun regulation.
- There is no right to bear arms.
- Using a gun requires a license.
- Suppressors and some other accessories allowed in the US are banned.
- Guns must be kept under specific storage conditions.
- Open carry effectively doesn't exist.
So even if you don't believe the guns themselves contribute to the lethality of a shooting, you actually just proved that tougher gun regulation works. Will you be voting exclusively Democrat in the mid-terms, then?
You don't need an AR-15 to hunt, you don't need one for self defense, what do you need one for?
Another turd thinking he is funny politicizing a tragedy.... more mental illness than what you think he represents.