you think his kids would be in public schools?
Somehow I knew this was going to be Obama's fault.
Somehow I knew this was going to be Obama's fault.
Hell the don't even want the doctors who are treating the mental illness to be able to ask if they own guns that they could use to harm others. At some point they have to accept the hollowness of their arguments as when you break it down piece by piece they've put up roadblocks at every step.Conservatives are funny, you keep saying it was mental illness that caused him to do this not the guns, so we need to identify people with mental illness before these kinds of problems thongs happen.
You want everyone to have easy access to things that are made for killing but not Healthcare for everyone that saves lives, mental health is Healthcare. So then you have no solution then, you just want this cycle to keep repeating.
Conservatives are funny, you keep saying it was mental illness that caused him to do this not the guns, so we need to identify people with mental illness before these kinds of problems thongs happen.
You want everyone to have easy access to things that are made for killing but not Healthcare for everyone that saves lives, mental health is Healthcare. So then you have no solution then, you just want this cycle to keep repeating.
Okay, I'll make it explicit then. If massacres need to happen periodically so that someone who needs a firearm to prevent a bear from chewing off their child's face, then that may be an acceptable cost. What I'm willing to admit that is that almost any gun policy (or lack of one) is going to have an adverse impact on someone.
Unlike you I'm not going to merely think of "what gun policy would be best for me" without consideration of anyone else and how that policy would effect other people. The veil of ignorance demands you admit that just because you might not want/need a gun or be impacted by a ban or restrictions doesn't mean that others wouldn't be harmed by them and likely in ways you couldn't predict or possibly even imagine with the limits of your environment and experience.
Most similar modern replacement. And I don't think a room full of men are going to hide in a corner and die one by one if the shooter has a single shot and needs to reload the chamber.Why is 'bolt action' the dividing line? Why not muskets?
Because the POTUS kids are at a far greater risk of harm than any other kid on the planet.
To add. If you need to be told this you need to just leave the discussion. If you knew this already then you're just trolling and should leave the discussion.
Obama made some lame attempts at gun control, but he also expanded our rights in other areas. Obama made it lawful to carry your gun on Amtrak and in public parks. Props to him for that.
Bear in mind, bolt action doesn't mean single shot. Action and loading are two different mechanisms. This is part of why gun legislation is hard, because specificity and intent are really, really important.Most similar modern replacement. And I don't think a room full of men are going to hide in a corner and die one by one if the shooter has a single shot and needs to reload the chamber.
You better believe if I go to Yellowstone with the intent of hiking or camping, I'm either going to have a gun, or going to be with someone that has a gun. I don't fuck around with bears or cougars.You don't need to take your gun to a national park.
First of all it's checked guns on Amtrak and the National parks is conditional on state regulations. Also one of the worse things obama did was to sign off on that bill. You don't need to take your gun to a national park.
And? The Secret Service detail was right with her.carters kids went public, with fewer guards
First of all it's checked guns on Amtrak and the National parks is conditional on state regulations. Also one of the worse things obama did was to sign off on that bill. You don't need to take your gun to a national park.
Bear in mind, bolt action doesn't mean single shot. Action and loading are two different mechanisms. This is part of why gun legislation is hard, because specificity and intent are really, really important.
While the inevitable epidemic of bear-linked child face eatings would in fact be tragic, I'm going to take a wild stab and say if we compared the number of faces eaten to the number of people massacred by guns each year we're going to find a pretty favorable ratio to my position, haha. Regardless though, my preferred gun policy would limit these types of shootings and protect the faces of our beloved children. As I've said before I'm fine with people owning shotguns in their homes.
And after all, we always have the bear patrol.
I think that's exactly what you're doing as the evidence is incredibly strong in my favor. Since we're talking about national policy the important question is what policy is the best for the country overall, and limiting access to guns is kind of a no-brainer on that one. If you'd like to argue otherwise I'm open to hearing your evidence, but make sure it's empirical evidence and not attacks on my supposed motives.
sure you do. camping? fishing? hiking?
plenty of wild animal attacks
Get rid of the guns, make them hard to get, control them. It won't stop overnight but over time it will be harder and harder to pull off acts like this one. We already know what the problem is, some of just don't want to face it.
Yes more thoughts and prayers, it really helps them and will help in the future as well.
I've backpacked camped hiked and fished all over this country deep in bear country for weeks. Denali, Glacier, wind river range, Bob marshall, Kodiak island, Yellowstone, Tetons, St ellies range, yukon territory and all the national parks on the east coast. I never saw another hiker with a gun. Thousands of people hike for months the AT, CDT and PCT, they don't carry guns. So please stepping into the woods does not require a gun lol.
Again, there is no reason parks should be blocked from concealed carry. Anything that can happen outside the park can happen inside a national park, there is no magical barrier that changes the possibility of needing a gun.